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« on: March 10, 2016, 03:52:21 PM »

I've been using the heatpack idea that 'wakenbake69' originally posted / recommended.

I ordered the same brand 'Hot Hands'. I hold them in place with a wide Velcro tape wrap I knocked up myself.

After 8 days only so far, wearing one for a minimum of 4 continuous hours / day but usually closer to 6 hours, there is already a very marked effect.

Generally, everything feels 'normal' down there now. Any aching there was has completely gone (although it wasn't that serious pain as others seem to get, more just a constant reminder of your problem). That tenderness/pain that you get if you knock or catch a plaque has gone. The plaques are harder to find, not so pronounced if you know what I mean. Also, flaccid length seems to have gone up and everything hangs normally.

I have ordered a shed load of them and will continue to supplement my existing treatment routine with these heat packs everyday
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Re: Heat Packs
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2016, 07:01:33 PM »

Nice one! Where did you order them from?

I'm trying to find a good bulk seller so I can grab a whole lot of them, or maybe I should just bite the bullet and make myself an electric heating pad.
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« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2016, 07:50:49 PM »

That's great news. Heat, like traction or VED, always gives me near immediate results.

I also noticed that it can make the bend more pronounced at times, only to return to a better state after.

If I could help you guys get some Japanese hand warmers I would!

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« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2016, 08:03:53 PM »

What are some of the good hand warmer brands other than Hothands? They might be available on aliexpress.
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« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2016, 08:15:13 PM »

Japanese hand warmers are called "kairo" and I use pokopoko brand. I got about 10 large ones for one dollar. I am hunting for a link for other guys to get some since hand warmers are much more common here.

New technique incoming as of this morning! 8)
 
Use a toilet paper roll. Wrap your penis in a medium to large hand warmer, then put a toilet paper roll over it to keep it in place. Twist it as you put it on a bit in order to fit the entire thing inside the roll. This is very comfortable for home use and keeps the heat hot and in place with compression. With some looser pants one could easily go outside without anyone noticing.

Do not sleep while wearing this

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Re: Heat Packs
« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2016, 08:16:39 PM »

I think HotHands are quite pricey in the UK but I bought them from Amazon which was a UK supplier fulfilled by Amazon

Unsurprisingly, the best price per warmer was attained buying the '5 pairs' pack (the biggest pack I could find). I got a bit of an Amazon discount for ordering 5 packs of the 5 pairs packs. I ended up at about 0.77 pence per warmer. Although hand warmers obviously come in pairs, with HotHands, each warmer is in a separate sealed pack so you can just use a single each time without compromising the other warmer in the pair pack.

After reading many reviews of different brands, HotHands came out on top for two things. The lowest failure rate per warmer (some warmers fail to get upto full heat) and they last the longest. The 10 hours heat they claim is there for sure. I get 6 hours very good heat and I would say everyone of them has been good for 8 hours at a constant heat. Some reviews also mentioned this brand got hotter than others. They take about 10 mins out of the pack in the air and a few shakes to get up to full heat
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Re: Heat Packs
« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2016, 11:17:14 AM »

I got a pack of 40 going though Flubit for £28.64.
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Re: Heat Packs
« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2016, 11:25:07 AM »

Yeah I bought a bunch also. The dimensions are annoying though. A single one you could wrap all/most of the way around would be perfect.
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Re: Heat Packs
« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2016, 12:02:16 PM »

It doesn't burn holding it directly to the penis?
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Re: Heat Packs
« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2016, 02:13:35 PM »

dimensions are annoying though. A single one you could wrap all/most of the way around would be perfect.

Yeah, hence my velcro wrap to keep it over the plaque area   :)

It doesn't burn holding it directly to the penis?

No, they are hand warmers to go in your gloves. They do get quite warm, which you want, but don't get anywhere near hot enough to burn you (well the brand I use doesn't)

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Re: Heat Packs
« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2016, 07:39:08 PM »

Read a study showing that heat over 40C for more than 2 hours tends to break down collagen (anywhere in the body). Careful though because it breaks down both bad (fibrotic) and good collagen.  I would use a VED immediately after so the collagen "heals" in an expanded state.
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Re: Heat Packs
« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2016, 07:49:24 PM »

I'm using them while strapped into my traction device.
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« Reply #12 on: March 12, 2016, 08:32:22 AM »

I'm using them while strapped into my traction device.

Good one ... I think that's the way to go. I will definitely do that when I get back to using traction

Careful though because it breaks down both bad (fibrotic) and good collagen.  I would use a VED immediately after so the collagen "heals" in an expanded state.

I always 'heat myself up' with the warmers before VED (for min 1 hr) but I wonder, having read your point, by logical deduction, it may not be a good idea to put the heat pack back on after VED?? i.e. you have 'softened' the fibrosis before VED with the heat, modeled it with the VED, then by heating it again losing the benefit of the VED modeling !?!?!
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Re: Heat Packs
« Reply #13 on: March 13, 2016, 01:45:43 AM »

I guess theoretically if you have finished with the warmer but it has quite a few hours of heat left in it, you could put it in a ziploc bag and squeeze all the air out. That should stop the reaction and let you start it back up again when you next need it.

Edit. Ok these things are legitimately awesome. Maintaining a heat source during traction has been so difficult as to make it unfeasible, despite it being so important.

Oh and the tight ziploc bag works. I use them for 3-4 hours during my traction session, then put them in a ziploc bag and squeeze the air out. Next day they are good to go for another 3-4 hours at least. I've got three 3 hour sessions out of one heat pack, so three days worth from one pack.
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Re: Heat Packs
« Reply #14 on: April 07, 2016, 03:46:40 PM »

I just started this along with PAV I'll let you know how I get on. I work alot from home so I just nuke a pack and place it over the plaque which is located on the top. Not sure if i should wrap it seems fine just to let it rest on top. Also VED after? or just take it easy for a few days before doing heat and VED?
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Re: Heat Packs
« Reply #15 on: April 07, 2016, 09:16:52 PM »

Also VED after? or just take it easy for a few days before doing heat and VED?


IMO heat makes VED even safer because the tissue is more elastic, reducing the likelihood of injury.
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Re: Heat Packs
« Reply #16 on: April 08, 2016, 09:19:06 AM »

Thanks I'll try it out
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Re: Heat Packs
« Reply #17 on: April 08, 2016, 11:23:10 AM »

I have a simple and low cost way for getting heat treatment. My wife took a sock and filled with rice. Heat in microwave for about a minute and apply. It lasts about 30-45 minutes for heating and you only have to change the rice every 3 months. Been working great for me. She actually got some cloth and made a custom one for me...lol.
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Re: Heat Packs
« Reply #18 on: April 08, 2016, 11:24:44 PM »

Kenix33 is on to something.  The rice filled sock (uncooked rice) heated in the microwave works great.  You can't however wear it to town like you can the heat packs, Hot Hands.

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« Reply #19 on: April 09, 2016, 02:10:03 AM »

You just can't beat the convenience of having a heatpack which is essentially at exactly the right temperature and needs no reheating for your whole traction session, then can be reused, getting 2-3 sessions in total out of each one.
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« Reply #20 on: April 09, 2016, 05:49:51 PM »

That's true. I bought one of those small rice / wheat packs to try and I need to reheat it every 15 mins. It doesn't provide consistent or constant heat like HotHands heat packs.

Interestingly, on that point, after many weeks trial, I am certain now that direct heating with a heatpack for 2hrs before VED makes significant difference to my VED sessions. I can actually tell the difference between 1hr and 2hrs pre-heating.

After 2hrs of heating, I can definitely feel how much easier you inflate during a pumping session. There is no feeling of tightness anywhere if you know what I mean. Not only do I get really easy inflation, you actually get more inflation from the same number of pumps which must be a good sign (not saying I am over inflating).

Also after the VED session it feels better as well. Softer, looser and hangs better. Kind of hard to describe but after 2 hrs heatpack and VED session, it feels like you have no problem at all for quite a few hours afterwards ............. I see that as a good sign   :)
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« Reply #21 on: April 11, 2016, 09:28:16 PM »

Also after the VED session it feels better as well. Softer, looser and hangs better. Kind of hard to describe but after 2 hrs heatpack and VED session, it feels like you have no problem at all for quite a few hours afterwards ............. I see that as a good sign   :)

Gutted, I am so glad to hear your success with the heat packs. I can confirm the same results around a longer flaccid hang, generally softer penis, and easier inflation during VED sessions.

I recently upped my pentox to 2x400mg twice daily and seeing some improvements also. I just ordered a bunch more cialis which I am going to take daily per Old Man's advice that LDDC can soften plaques. Combined with pentox, heat, and VED I am excited about making even more progress.
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Re: Heat Packs
« Reply #22 on: April 12, 2016, 11:16:03 AM »

That's great to hear thanks wakenbake69 .......... that's two of us  :)  ...... corroboration from members on a Forum like this is  a very powerful thing !

So, 800mg Pentox 2x a day ? ...... how long have you been doing that and what result did you get ?

I do the Cialis thing as well .......... 2.5mg daily at night
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Re: Heat Packs
« Reply #23 on: April 12, 2016, 05:10:51 PM »

Aight Im starting heat pack therapy. Im doing it a little differently. I bought a reusable heat back that is about the size of my dick when erect. It looks like those blue ice packs. Basically, you drop it in boiling water and let it sit for 10 minutes, then apply for 30mins-1hr.

Its impossible for me to apply something for hours at a time, so I figured this is the next best thing. I will use this daily, at least once. I will also use it before and after VED, when I start it.

Will report.

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Re: Heat Packs
« Reply #24 on: April 12, 2016, 06:59:37 PM »

Are you guys applying the heat packs on the penis directly, or in the area (groins, abdomen)?

By the way Gutted, my balls aching is almost gone if not gone completely. I did heat for several days several hours in the area (not in the penis directly) and that seemed to work, although some days it was too painful that only ice directly in the balls calmed it down. But I have to say that the pain looks like is going away.

I am doing VED and is not coming back for now. But I can see that heat beforehand might help. I am just not sure where are you guys applying it.

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« Reply #25 on: April 13, 2016, 01:50:45 AM »

Im doing it directly to the penis. Heat therapy is like cold therapy (ice packs), apply directly where the pain is.
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« Reply #26 on: April 13, 2016, 07:29:00 AM »

I am doing it directly to the penis too. As per first post in this thread, I am using those HotHands hand warmers and I strap it on using a Velcro band I knocked up myself. I do at least 2hrs heating before VED. I do the VED treatment but don't put the heat pack back on afterwards because of 'Steveo's' post below on March 11th. You can see in my answer to him on the 12th that I am theorizing that reheating may therefore possibly destroy the effective 'modeling' of the plaque that the VED session does.

Krazy - Good to hear your aching has almost gone. It's a relief when it goes isn't it !! When mine had gone, I started the Forum 3 cylinder protocol from the beginning  again. I am 3 weeks in and no sign of it coming back yet. Like I said in our other post, I followed 'Old Mans' advice and cut each VED session down from 15 mins to 10 mins. I also only inflate 30 - 40 % instead of the recommended 50% and I don't hold any longer than 5 seconds now. Was doing 10/12 second holds before. So all that combined with heat is keeping that inguinal / ball ache at bay so far
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« Reply #27 on: April 13, 2016, 03:29:30 PM »

It is indeed a relief!! It really drives you nuts and makes you worry so much. I am happy we understood the cause and were able to then make a plan for it. I think once we start mastering how to do it, and with the pre-heat, we can help the body getting acustomed to that "exercise" that is the VED and therefore avoiding any aching.

I am also doing now 10 mins in total, although in my case I am holding each cycle one minute (following my doctor instructions) instead of 5/10 seconds. But if I feel any aching again, I will do exactly just as you, which is what Old Man also recommends. I am also using the small cylinder, and as you say, in that cylinder I can only reach 40/50% of the total length size. I pump until all the shaft is pretty much tight against the wall, symmetrically from the base to the glans.

Good luck Gutted!
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« Reply #28 on: April 14, 2016, 03:20:02 AM »

Hey since most of you guys are using the hand warmers and I am using a blue-gel heat pack instead, I was wondering how warm/hot your hand warmers are when you first apply. It is a mild, comfortable warmth, or is it just below the too hot threshold?

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« Reply #29 on: April 14, 2016, 08:59:31 AM »

I found packs (gel or rice) that you heat in the Microwave get very hot initially, don't stay hot for long and the heat is definitely not consistent. So it is very hard to heat your plaques for hours non-stop at time.

The Hot Hands can get quite hot but I wouldn't say anywhere near the "too hot threshold"

I found you can control the amount of heat from the Hot Hands because the reaction that makes them hot requires air. Therefore when you wrap them back up in their cellophane wrapper, they cool down slowly. If they get too hot you can just do that to lower the temp a bit

I find when I open the pack for the first time and leave the warmer to sit in the air to warm up, I keep checking it to see how hot it is. When it's where I want it, I attach it over the plaques with my velcro wrap. I then find once it is inside your underwear and pressed against your penis the heat stays stable because there is less air getting to it than when you open the pack and leave it on the side in the open to start warming up

You just get a routine going with experience  :)  ........... but they are the only way I have found of getting stable heat for hours without having to take off regularly for reheat
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« Reply #30 on: April 14, 2016, 09:13:30 AM »

Ive been doing this for a week now and I do see the pain reduction. I no longer need to take pain killers before bed. Still some discomfort but its getting better. I apply the heating pad on the pelvic bone area and work it to the penis over time. Every 30 mins I re-nuke it. I haven't used it directly related to VED yet I will try that next week
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« Reply #31 on: April 19, 2016, 09:32:49 AM »

Well the heat treatment seems to be at an end. last few days the pain is the same or getting worse. Heat packs dont even numb it anymore. God i wish i new how to deal with this.
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« Reply #32 on: April 19, 2016, 01:01:45 PM »

CSM - I don't know how your heat pack compares to Hot Hands hand warmers in terms of degree of heat output and consistency of heat output.

I guess for a start, your pack is cooling down over the 30min period it lasts before you re-heat it. Then you are having to take it off to reheat it.

Also, I attach the Hot Hands pack directly to the penis and place it over the plaques best I can. I just leave it there, uninterrupted for a min of 2hrs. It gets quite hot.

Are you also on Acetyl-L-Carnitine and Pentox as well ? They are seen to contribute to cutting pain. I am on both
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« Reply #33 on: April 19, 2016, 06:57:24 PM »

Csm,I agrew with gutted. A reheatable pack isn't going to have the same effect. Strongly urge you to try the hothands warmers.
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« Reply #34 on: April 19, 2016, 10:22:51 PM »

hey Gutted and Wakenbake. Thanks for the info, I will take a look for the hand warmers that you recommend. Also I just started Acetyl-L-Carnitine today. ive been the PAC protocol for about 4 weeks now.
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« Reply #35 on: May 03, 2016, 09:10:36 PM »

After having using a reusable heat pack for a few weeks now, I must say that this form of therapy IS effective. I have noticed better erections at night and more random erections during the day, more sensation in my dick, and less pain. Furthermore, I only use the heat pack for ~30 minutes daily due to my schedule. Hopefully there is more benefit for longer periods of time, which I hope to include once my schedule frees up.

I am using a reusable blue gel heat back that you heat up my dropping in boiling water. I just ordered a hothands variety pack, so I will see how those compare. Part of the variety pack is a hothands with a built-in adhesive, so it will be interesting to see if I can adhere it to my dick without having to create some custom strap.

Will report.
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« Reply #36 on: May 04, 2016, 07:16:11 AM »

We touched on similar last year http://www.peyroniesforum.net/index.php/topic,6318.msg66748.html but I've just discovered heated tape http://www.carbonheater.us/ and a site that gives pretty good instructions on building http://www.instructables.com/id/DIY-carbon-heated-gloves/.

I haven't got the brainpower to work out the details but I'm sure we have in the community, any takers?  :D
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« Reply #37 on: May 04, 2016, 08:42:33 AM »

Wow good find on the carbon tape, that could be a perfect solution.
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« Reply #38 on: May 05, 2016, 05:51:07 AM »


Lonelyboy,

We can probably make such a heater device in many ways.

Last week I built a 3W heater device, powered by a 12V transformer and controlled by a thermosensor feedback. Yes, it looks like something from a junkyard, but it works ok. I have so far only used it for 3 sessions of 30min each, skin temperature 42°C, so I cannot say anything about the therapeutic effect.

The heater itself is a standard flexprint heater that I have cast into latex.

I like your carbonheater idea better than my flexprint though.
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« Reply #39 on: May 05, 2016, 08:18:09 AM »

I wish it was my idea  ;)

It looks to the untrained eye that we ( :) ) should be able to make a tube with a specific length of the tape to provide the optimum temperature powered from a USB connection, could power it from a laptop even (might not be enough current?) or if not from a normal phone USB plug, should be thin enough to be able to use at same time as tensioning.
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« Reply #40 on: May 06, 2016, 06:08:09 PM »

Have you thought about IR or ultra violet heat strips.  One of those with a power supply and feedback loop ought to work well.  I'm looking into that now. 

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« Reply #41 on: May 10, 2016, 12:51:43 AM »

Has anyone tried contrasting? AKA when you apply heat for a few minutes then immediately apply cold for a few minutes then keep alternating like this for a while?

I might try it.
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« Reply #42 on: May 10, 2016, 10:20:25 AM »

Has anyone tried contrasting?


Yes I do this. If I have any inflammation or pain relaTed to inflammation I will first use a heat pack, then use a cold gel pack. But the time the cold pack warms up to room temp, I am pain free. I will usually warm my dick back up just to get blood flowing again.
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« Reply #43 on: May 10, 2016, 05:26:36 PM »

Is the main reason to use heat packs to reduce discomfort or pain?

I don't have any pain luckily.

The bend has been steadily increasing for me. I will be asking my urologist for a VED when I see him in a couple of days. Wondering whether to buy some of these heat pads too.


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« Reply #44 on: May 10, 2016, 09:39:57 PM »

The main reason (for me) is that there are two positive studies on using hyperthermia to treat Peyronie's.
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« Reply #45 on: May 11, 2016, 12:57:10 AM »

Aight wakenback ill try the contrasting.

Perspex, supposedly heat therapy causes increased blood flow to the applied area. Blood vessels expand and there is a better delivery of oxygen. Heat therapy is used to reduce pain for chronic ailments.
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« Reply #46 on: May 13, 2016, 03:17:13 PM »

I bought my on Amazon with 2 day Prime shipping very cheap.  Looking forward to trying out this idea in combo with my new VED.  I like the toilet paper roll suggestion too, very clever.
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« Reply #47 on: May 14, 2016, 03:32:40 AM »

I recently got myself some HotHands. They're good! But....has anyone else noticed they seem to become less hot once applied and down your trousers? Perhaps you just become desensitised. I find attaching two - one above, one below - works best.
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« Reply #48 on: May 14, 2016, 08:20:12 PM »

I know what you mean Peety

I have taken them off sometimes to check, but they generally still feel hot. I think you're right, you can get a bit desensitized I think. They quite often leave a bit of a red patch where they have been touching me .... so it must be hot !!

When I take them off I give them a good shake to aerate them which does heat them up more before putting it back on. I also find that once you take them out of the sealed wrapper if you give them a good shake and leave them standing in the air for about 15 mins before use, they get very hot and definitely don't seem to cool at all after that unless you reseal them in cellophane.

As you know, the heat comes from the reaction of the contents with air. So the less air circulation the more likely they are to cool a bit. I wear very loose boxer short underwear and secure them with a relatively thin velcro strap so they still get enough air circulation to keep hot.

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« Reply #49 on: May 15, 2016, 12:08:44 AM »

Gutted - Do you apply the heat pack directly, with no fabric or anything in between it and skin?
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