Topic: Priapus shot (Read 164184 times)

james1947 · « **Reply #100 on:** March 18, 2014, 10:13:48 PM »

Dear Friends

It will be more constructive to understand the subject of Pripus/PRP injection and the results of our forum members than endless trials to show that someone else is wrong.

James

james1947 · « **Reply #101 on:** March 18, 2014, 11:58:30 PM »

MIKEHAWK

Can you post the date you have made the first and other PRP shots?

James

james1947 · « **Reply #102 on:** March 19, 2014, 12:42:53 AM »

ifxne

Can you tell us when you had the Priapus shots (or PRP) and the results?

James

james1947 · « **Reply #103 on:** March 19, 2014, 12:49:27 AM »

Loyalty

Can you give us some more details regarding your improvements?

James

james1947 · « **Reply #104 on:** March 19, 2014, 01:09:24 AM »

To all members that got Priapus shots/PRP injections.

Please keep us posted on the results!!!

James

NeoV · « **Reply #105 on:** March 19, 2014, 02:49:19 AM »

PRP Injections (Priapus Shots) are definitely the most exciting thing I can think of right now for Peyronies.

I have recently found that they are available in Tokyo.

james1947 · « **Reply #106 on:** March 19, 2014, 03:48:26 AM »

Good luck Neo

Tell us the price also (not in Yen please)

James

incautious · « **Reply #107 on:** March 19, 2014, 08:48:51 AM »

Wow, lot's of great comments/opinions. A tip of the hat about keeping things civil. All I can say from my perspective is, that there is an improvement in all aspects curvature, girth ,length, and Erectile Dysfunction. I will post pics next week which is 6 weeks, and you will have to judge for yourselves.
A tip of the hat to Mikehawk, I know you get a lot of chit, but you had the guts to do this first.
James regarding you loss of length, did you try traction. That's where I regained over an inch. I like you stalled in my improvement after 6 months which is why I decided to get the shot. Also if you are over 45 you should get you T levels checked as this will contribute to shrinkage if it is very low.

james1947 · « **Reply #108 on:** March 19, 2014, 04:50:19 PM »

incautious

I tried traction, was not able to use not the regular and not the cup.
I am using VED, the improvements were in the first two months, regained 1/2" so now I am on 5" with half of the original girth and 2" shorter. Sharp left bent close to the base, upward banana shape and Erectile Dysfunction. My main problem is that I have done nothing for the first three years.
Last time I checked the T levels it was much higher than average for my age (66), I will check again before that PRP because I can get it also in the same place.

James

james1947 · « **Reply #109 on:** March 19, 2014, 05:20:49 PM »

I am moving the topic to, Developmental Drugs & Treatments.
In my opinion Priapus/PRP is becoming a main stream treatment.

James

emasculated · « **Reply #110 on:** March 19, 2014, 07:08:49 PM »

I found two studies where PRP did not fare so well:

Platelet-rich plasma injection for chronic Achilles ten... [JAMA. 2010] - PubMed - NCBI

Platelet-Rich Plasma Injections in the Treatment of Chronic Rotator Cuff Tendinopathy

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At 1-year follow-up, a PRP injection was found to be no more effective in improving quality of life, pain, disability, and shoulder range of motion than placebo in patients with chronic RCT who were treated with an exercise program.

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Among patients with chronic Achilles tendinopathy who were treated with eccentric exercises, a PRP injection compared with a saline injection did not result in greater improvement in pain and activity.

Randomized trials are always the best.

james1947 · « **Reply #111 on:** March 19, 2014, 07:16:25 PM »

Yes emasculated, no one made a randomized, double blind study on the effectiveness of PRP for Peyronies.
This is the reason why we are making our own simple study so our members and guests can decide themselves if it is good for them or not.

James

james1947 · « **Reply #112 on:** March 21, 2014, 05:48:18 AM »

I have booked my PRP for April 4.

Will report how it was

James

Nemo · « **Reply #113 on:** March 21, 2014, 09:29:54 AM »

James, best of luck! Will be especially helpful to hear if you feel that any difference is detected in the actual plaques after the procedure - their size, hardness, "feel," etc.

Best,
Nemo

incautious · « **Reply #114 on:** March 21, 2014, 09:56:56 AM »

good luck James. Do NOT pump the day before as you will want to be in as close to your natural state as possible. This way the injections are more ingrained in the tissue with little chance of being diluted with any fluids that may be built up from pumping.

IhatePD · « **Reply #115 on:** March 21, 2014, 11:56:22 AM »

Good luck Janes, I am hoping for the best for you!

Mentos · « **Reply #116 on:** March 21, 2014, 12:23:17 PM »

Great to hear James!!!

Are you going to use VED after or not?

Your going to be happy you got PRP.

anonpdacct · « **Reply #117 on:** March 21, 2014, 12:57:16 PM »

James,

Good luck man. Wishing you tremendous success and sending good thoughts your way.

Anon

MattFoley · « **Reply #118 on:** March 21, 2014, 03:44:30 PM »

Right on, James, welcome to the club!!

james1947 · « **Reply #119 on:** March 21, 2014, 04:00:17 PM »

Thanks for all the wishes.

I hope that it will help in my age (66) also.

James

Mentos · « **Reply #120 on:** March 21, 2014, 07:32:00 PM »

James, It will help.

Knight · « **Reply #121 on:** March 21, 2014, 09:47:10 PM »

All the best to you James! You deserve something good and hopefully this will be your miracle. I'm very grateful for all of you that are willing to step up and be pioneers in finding solutions to our common and most unfortunate dilemma. This treatment looks hopeful, I just hope it truly is a solution and doesn't turn out to be a cruel temporary mask.

james1947 · « **Reply #122 on:** March 22, 2014, 12:23:43 AM »

Knight

I hope also that will not be:

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a cruel temporary mask

But if yes, I will do it again and again and again if it will help for a while

James

NDfan · « **Reply #123 on:** March 23, 2014, 11:12:05 AM »

Again and again meaning $1400 out of pocket every time?

james1947 · « **Reply #124 on:** March 23, 2014, 03:47:57 PM »

No NDfan, $275 again and again and again

In any case, for cosmetic treatments with PRP they are giving guaranty of two years.

James

incautious · « **Reply #125 on:** March 24, 2014, 08:08:25 AM »

6 week pics are up. As for weather this is a a temporary or permanent cure/fix, I believe if one continues to use the VED or traction device the results will be permanent. A small price to pay to not have this condition return. Remember that you only have to use the VED 20min a day according to Dr Runnels.

Japanfour · « **Reply #126 on:** March 25, 2014, 12:21:05 AM »

Would you say you feel like your condition is even better than pre-peyronies? I'm curious to see how this will effect people with the hourglass problem or major dents. It could save them from needing implant surgery...which would be pretty amazing.

incautious · « **Reply #127 on:** March 25, 2014, 07:33:35 AM »

Well I wouldn't say that I was better that my pre peyronies except for the increase in girth. I did not have Erectile Dysfunction back then and I'm still not at my original length. My Erectile Dysfunction is getting way better. Was able to have relations with the wife for over an hour last week and stayed firm the whole time. I'm 59 so I don't know if I will ever get to the point where I was in my 30's, but I would get the shot before considering ANY type of surgery. There is always a risk in surgery, with PRP the risk is almost zero.

james1947 · « **Reply #128 on:** March 25, 2014, 06:17:08 PM »

incautious

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Was able to have relations with the wife for over an hour last week and stayed firm the whole time.

It is really significant!
Hope my improvements will be also in this scale

James

Japanfour · « **Reply #129 on:** March 25, 2014, 09:56:45 PM »

Incautious, I know you initially had swelling...but you're saying that as of now your girth is still more than it was pre-peyronies? If so that's pretty amazing.

Also, is anyone else planning on getting this that's younger? I'm in my 20's, so it would be interesting to see if age plays any part in this.

NDfan · « **Reply #130 on:** March 25, 2014, 10:50:23 PM »

I'm 30 and watching this closely to see what happens with James. My only major obstacle would be if this really costs 1400 and health insurance doesn't cover it. What I don't understand is - what happens to the plaque?

Nemo · « **Reply #131 on:** March 25, 2014, 11:17:02 PM »

Yes, incautious, what's the status of your plaque(s) - are they palpable? Any change in size/texture/feel since the shots?

Nemo

incautious · « **Reply #132 on:** March 26, 2014, 07:39:26 AM »

I cannot feel any plaque at this time. It used to feel like a hard lump but it is not there now. As for girth, It's pretty amazing, it's at least 1/2" more in circumference than when when I was in my thirty's . As for you younger guys, it's hard to say how well this will work on you. A lot of issues with us older guys are age related, and this ,with testosterone replacement, can help to reverse the aging process. I guess we will have to wait for mentos, as i believe that he is younger. But I have no doubt that if you are in your 20's or 30's this will improve Erectile Dysfunction and girth, and should help in reducing curvature. And James one thing that this does is to increase the intensity of your climax. I wasn't kidding when I said that I saw start.

sectorsurfer · « **Reply #133 on:** March 26, 2014, 04:07:27 PM »

Does anyone know a urologist in the San Francisco Bay Area or even in SoCal that does the PRP injections? I notice that other specialists, i.e., sports medicine orthopedists, etc., are using this protocol; however, I cannot find any urologists at least not in California.

Mentos · « **Reply #134 on:** March 26, 2014, 06:23:24 PM »

Sectorsurfer. yes I know a couple. Msg me.

Nemo · « **Reply #135 on:** March 26, 2014, 06:23:47 PM »

incautious, I want to be very precise and clear for the sake of evaluating this as a treatment. Are you saying that before the shots you had a plaque that was palpable when flaccid, and that after the shots, that plaque is not palpable?

Nemo

james1947 · « **Reply #136 on:** March 26, 2014, 08:02:30 PM »

Regarding Priapus shots providers see the link bellow:
Directory | Priapus Shot (R)

About prices:

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Dr. Terlecki has been charging me $575 per injection

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In Canada PRP injected for injuries is only 350$! per injury site, the Priapus shots are 1400$.
the 150$ is the cost of material, and they still earn a 200$ profit per shot in physiotherapy centers.

Regarding young people, my opinion is that PRP may work even better than for old people because they body capability to hill is better.
(Sorry about my English, I don't know if I wrote correct "hill" or should be "heal")

incautious

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....increase the intensity of your climax. I wasn't kidding when I said that I saw stars

I hope very much that it will work for e also in this subject because my climax is much less intense that before Peyronies.

James

incautious · « **Reply #137 on:** March 27, 2014, 07:21:05 AM »

nemo that is correct, that while flaccid I can longer feel the plaque lump that was there before the shot. I june I will have my next check with the uro, he will be able to confirm weather is it all gone or not. Obviously I still have some curvature and indentation, what is the cause of that, I can only guess. But I am pleased with the progress I've made in the last 6 weeks

NeoV · « **Reply #138 on:** March 27, 2014, 08:54:01 AM »

That is simply amazing news.

In Tokyo it's about 500 dollars from what I can tell.
I'm considering going abroad to get one but I can't yet tell if it's worth it.
If I visit the US this summer I'd live to get one.

Nemo · « **Reply #139 on:** March 27, 2014, 09:57:57 AM »

incautious, if there is curvature and indentation, then there IS a plaque present, but the fact that you can no longer feel it after the shot is very intriguing, and reason to hope. It would simply be miraculous if these shots resulted in a complete disappearance of damaged tissue and replacement with good tissue, but having no palpable plaque is certainly a good sign and a step in the right direction. Please keep us posted on your progress.

I am somewhat put in mind of the experience many of us had with DMSO experiments a few years ago - the so-called "Thacker's Formula." Many, myself included, noticed better erections, fuller flaccid hang, and softer feeling tissue - some even noted they felt their plaque was breaking apart. However, no one ever actually realized an improvement in curvature. At the end of the day, I came away with the belief that you can "tenderize" and swell the penis with fluid, etc., and feel like you're making a gain, but because the plaque occupies tissue like concrete infused into a wire mesh, replacing damaged tissue with good tissue still eludes us.

Nemo

incautious · « **Reply #140 on:** March 27, 2014, 11:25:49 AM »

nemo I agree 100% in what you are saying. But I for one am very happy where things are right now. Don't forget that prp is supposed to activate stem cells, if it truly does that, then theoretically it can fully heal damaged or injured body parts over time. I've said that I will most likely use a VED and traction forever as a means of keeping peyronies at bay or from reoccurring. If things stay right where they are now then I look at this as a success regardless of what caused the improvement. Hopefully we will have our own real data base of peyronies sufferers here who will be able to document their experiences with the p shot. Then and only then we we be able to say for certain about the effectiveness of this procedure.

james1947 · « **Reply #141 on:** March 28, 2014, 06:33:15 PM »

NeoV

Why to get the PRP in the US in the summer if in Japan you can get it now and is $500?

James

NeoV · « **Reply #142 on:** March 31, 2014, 04:35:29 AM »

The Uro's here want to use PRP shots with fat cells and shockwave therapy. I don't think I want any of that, and I don't really understand it.
They are doing it as a way to increase the size of your penis.
I'm not sure if anyone does plain PRP injection therapy

This is all quite frustrating. I don't think Japan is the place to do ANY medical procedure to be honest. Doctors here all tell me that Japan simply lags behind other countries, I need to figure out which doc to go to in the US and get this done this year.. Can we find any consensus here on the forums for who to go to ? And how therapies and prices differ??

James , any chance we could list the therapy details and urologists used along with the comments in the forum trials thread?

james1947 · « **Reply #143 on:** March 31, 2014, 06:22:39 PM »

NeoV, I had made the topic bellow exactly for what you have asked.
PRIAPUS/PRP Injections Trial (forum) - Peyronies Society Forums

James

MIKEHAWK · « **Reply #144 on:** April 01, 2014, 03:22:34 AM »

NeoV, i don't believe that's true, Stem Cell Breast enlargement is pioneered in Japan and it's proven to be successful and later brought to America. the problem with Japan is that they are cheap with their Facility, but for something as simple as PRP injections i don't think Japan would be a issue.

Japan only has problems with scientific research because of the cheap facilities they have to work with.

Chef Chris, you should get your shots in before the inflammation process ends.

NeoV · « **Reply #145 on:** April 01, 2014, 04:11:42 AM »

Japan has PRP injections, but they don`t do it stand alone, they use shockwave therapy and fat cell injections along with it. They have a lot of package things like that, this one is called the "magnum 1000". Its for enlargement. Japan has a lot of gimmicky stuff like that, it's offered at a clinic that is all about penis enlargement, with silly advertisements all over it. They also offer Peyronie`s surgery, and have cartoony pictures showing how it works with almost no real details. Its advertised like its a cure all.

I agree with you on the problem with their facilities. A lot of advanced stuff exists here, but it's not accessible.
Major hospitals including the one that specializes in Peyronies don't use PRP at all for any kind of Erectile Dysfunction. That was the same hospital that told me that ultrasounds were pointless. The uro was 30 years old and had no experience with Peyronies, he could barely comprehend that I had edema in my penis nor did he know what a Lymphocele was. My Japanese is perfect, so that isn't the problem. I've moved on to clinics, because for some reason Japan's clinics offer more treatments than major hospitals. Health insurance is dirt cheap here, so large hospitals are reserved for minor issues.

I'm still in the process of making phone calls and asking if I can get stand-alone PRP injections, but I'm a bit afraid I'll get worse service since they do it just as a part of a fat injection enlargement scheme. I'm a bit more optimistic of getting one done in the US when I visit home, maybe even with my father who suffers from the disease as well.

Norm · « **Reply #146 on:** April 01, 2014, 09:07:44 AM »

Neo,
I understand that things are different in your world, but I am wondering. Have you actually spoken to one of the doctors who offer these packages? Remember that you are in charge. You are the customer. That much has to be the same. The doctor works for you. If you want only the PRP injection, then he is obliged to give you that or send you away. I would speak with them until you find one that will listen and give you only what you want. There is such a doctor. You just have to be assertive and find him. Good luck.
Norm

james1947 · « **Reply #147 on:** April 01, 2014, 05:25:17 PM »

NeoV

I have done what Norm advising you to do and found one after four weeks and 12 emails.

James

Chef Chris · « **Reply #148 on:** April 02, 2014, 03:43:47 AM »

Maybe I found a doctor here in Sweden ho can give me the shots. She said that she have a lot of experience in prp this procedure. She said that there are studies in the subject that she will read up on then get back to me. She said that the cost should be around 500 dollar (5000sek)
I am going to See my urology doctor tomorrow after Mondays insistent but the swelling is going down I am praying that there will be no more damage.

Chef Chris · « **Reply #149 on:** April 02, 2014, 03:48:11 AM »

I mean she have a lot of experience in prp but not in the penis that is what she will read up on it
and I meant that I am going to the urology doctor after this Mondays incident. My English is not that great and nether is the auto spelling.

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