Topic: Priapus shot (Read 167027 times)

emasculated · « **Reply #50 on:** February 20, 2014, 05:16:04 PM »

He's not at liberty to disclose that information. I already PM'd him. ;-)

MIKEHAWK · « **Reply #51 on:** February 20, 2014, 05:44:51 PM »

My friend decided to give me the shots for free, but they are planning to charge 150$ per shot when they get enough data on it's effects for Erectile Dysfunction. As penile enlargement doesn't really raise any interest in China, it's not going to do well being marketed as a penile enlarger lol.

Which is actually really expensive if you think about it.

In Canada PRP injected for injuries is only 350$! per injury site, the Priapus shots are 1400$.

the 150$ is the cost of material, and they still earn a 200$ profit per shot in physiotherapy centers.

Those that are performing these penile shots are earning mad money.

james1947 · « **Reply #52 on:** February 20, 2014, 06:40:36 PM »

Thanks for the info MIKEHAWK

Somehow confused. What is the difference between Priapus shot and PRP?
incautious says at his first post when he opened the topic:

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10 cc’s of PRP is ready to be injected in 5-6 locations

So the Priapus shot is PRP shot?

An other question:
How long time after the Priapus shot can resume sexual activity?

James

incautious · « **Reply #53 on:** February 20, 2014, 07:10:57 PM »

new pics are up. I know its only 10 days but every one seems to really want to see if there is any change. the results are very noticeable.
I tried to capture the original angle so that you can see the vein pattern and know that this is the same pattern as my before shot pic.

incautious · « **Reply #54 on:** February 20, 2014, 07:15:38 PM »

mikehawk, thanks for coming back on. I know that you got some chit about your original post, but you inspired me to go ahead and get this. And you are so right about how much money they are making on this. other that the cost of the centrifuge its all profit. The cost will come down its only a matter of time.

MIKEHAWK · « **Reply #55 on:** February 20, 2014, 07:28:10 PM »

Priapus shot is the name they decided to patent, it's like a Burger is a burger, but restaurant franchises can decide to give their burger a different name.

Their Vampire facelift is more impressive though cause that requires a lot of skill to inject properly, you'll have to be knowledgeable with cosmetics.

But yes PRP and Priapus shot is the same thing, but the centrifuge matters, so i do like where Dr. Charles runels is going with this. It offers a place to get quality PRP shots that have hospital grade Centrifuges.

I didn't really care about the criticism anyways, PRP made sense to me because many high profile celebrities are using it. Such as Athletes and even people in show business. if it didn't work and posed a health risk, people wouldn't be doing it.

MIKEHAWK · « **Reply #56 on:** February 20, 2014, 08:48:42 PM »

BBC News - Stem cell 'major discovery' claimed

It also turns out that blood can also be changed into Stem Cells, who would have thought. By shocking blood with acid they manage to turn the blood cells into stem cells.

Blood has an array of abilities to heal the body it seems.

Now a study shows that shocking blood cells with acid could also trigger the transformation into stem cells - this time termed STAP (stimulus-triggered acquisition of pluripotency) cells.

Dr Haruko Obokata, from the Riken Centre for Developmental Biology in Japan, said she was "really surprised" that cells could respond to their environment in this way.

She added: "It's exciting to think about the new possibilities these findings offer us, not only in regenerative medicine, but cancer as well."

I completely support research of blood, it's so interesting.

james1947 · « **Reply #57 on:** February 20, 2014, 10:06:14 PM »

Thanks for the answer MIKEHWK.
I am waiting from a clinic in Jakarta to know the price. They answer me that they are doing Priapus shots.

james

MIKEHAWK · « **Reply #58 on:** February 20, 2014, 10:17:53 PM »

Directory | Priapus Shot (R)

Priapus shots is a Patented name and is only available in the United states. I'd be careful if i were you, if they're using that name then they might not care too much about the law because that's copy right. this is a bad thing when it comes to a medical practitioner.

james1947 · « **Reply #59 on:** February 20, 2014, 10:20:48 PM »

I know is a patented name, but here in the far east they don't give too much on it.
It may be also that the name will be PRP, I am waiting for they answer an will update the forum

James

MattFoley · « **Reply #60 on:** February 21, 2014, 12:38:54 AM »

The P-Shot is definitely a different process than just PRP. For one thing, with regular PRP you don't inject the glan (head). The centrifuge is very specific, along with the blood, calcium chloride is injected as well, and there are multiple shots around the penis.

I'm stuck in a weird place.

I'm not interested in losing my 45% curve. I satisfy the hell out of my girlfriend since I can constantly press on her g-spot because of that bend. On the other hand, if that plaque causing the bend is also causing my venous leakage, then yes, I have to get rid of the plaque.

I don't know.

Knight · « **Reply #61 on:** February 21, 2014, 12:50:23 AM »

Are you in any pain Matt?

MIKEHAWK · « **Reply #62 on:** February 21, 2014, 01:24:59 AM »

Matt you might have an Issue with the bulbospongiosus muscle.

Test this out by lift weights, do Squats for 3 months and see if you notice a huge difference in erectile quality.

I'm having an issue with this also, in keeping a firm erection. I notice when lifting weights, doing exercises such as squats, my erections are dramatically different. those quality erections are short lived, i've probably damaged the bulbospongiosus muscle.

Iceman · « **Reply #63 on:** February 21, 2014, 01:59:31 AM »

is this shot available in Australia and is it a viable treatment option??

james1947 · « **Reply #64 on:** February 21, 2014, 02:45:06 AM »

Someone from Australia posted at Dec 29, 2013 that he got Priapus shot there.
The post is on:
Penis Enlargement at Thunder's Place
www.thundersplace.org/.../so-i-got-the-m-shot-or-priapus-shot-today-2.h...‎
I can't access it because I am in Indonesia and the "Access is restricted by AMA", the censorship.
Try to access it from Australia.

James

MattFoley · « **Reply #65 on:** February 21, 2014, 04:45:38 AM »

Knight, no pain. Thankfully the painful days are behind me. Unless, of course, I start smoking then the pain returns.

ifxne · « **Reply #66 on:** February 21, 2014, 09:11:49 AM »

I was told to avoid NSAIDs, Fish Oil and anything that thins the blood 2 weeks before PRP and 4 weeks after PRP. Did you guys change your diet to avoid Omega 3s and Turmeric etc?

incautious · « **Reply #67 on:** February 21, 2014, 09:52:53 AM »

no fish oil and no aspirin that was it for me

incautious · « **Reply #68 on:** February 26, 2014, 07:53:36 AM »

2 week photo's are posted in surgery child boards

james1947 · « **Reply #69 on:** March 04, 2014, 10:48:53 PM »

incautious

Sorry if I am pushing you, how are you after three weeks?
Have something new?

James

incautious · « **Reply #70 on:** March 05, 2014, 02:32:56 PM »

Not much new to report. Curvature is still better than before, and the increase in girth( about 1/2 circumference) is still there. Can't really tell if there is any major improvement in Erectile Dysfunction yet but it seems promising at this point. Most improvements are apparent in 6-12 week range according to Runnels site, so I will wait and see. I've had absolutely no adverse reactions which is expected with using one's own blood, but there was always some concern in the back of my mind that something can happen. A couple of other members here are going forward with this procedure, so hopefully we will have our own set of clinical data so to speak about the effectiveness of this procedure. I am very diligent with pumping so that's one variable that will not effect the outcome of my procedure.

james1947 · « **Reply #71 on:** March 05, 2014, 04:34:51 PM »

Thanks incautious

For me, your statement after three weeks:

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Curvature is still better than before, and the increase in girth( about 1/2 circumference) is still there.

is very encouraging.
I am still searching here around my area who can make Priapus or PRP shots. I found just stem cells treatment and I will not go for that.

James

NDfan · « **Reply #72 on:** March 16, 2014, 07:18:02 PM »

This looks pretty awesome. Like everyone else, hoping for more success stories before dropping a lot of money.

incautious · « **Reply #73 on:** March 17, 2014, 07:51:00 AM »

ND fan the price seems to be dropping in some areas to around $1400. Quite honestly, for me It was money well spent.

james1947 · « **Reply #74 on:** March 17, 2014, 04:15:30 PM »

I will get it $275 including everything for one session.

But should understand that here where I am living everything is cheaper, can have local breakfast for $0.50

James

IhatePD · « **Reply #75 on:** March 17, 2014, 05:54:33 PM »

James1947, my apoligies in advance but in what country are you living? I don't recognize your flag.

I am hoping the shot works for you. I may try it myself but I want to meet with my urologist in April first and measure what progress I have made in the last five months.

danbon · « **Reply #76 on:** March 17, 2014, 06:58:36 PM »

James1947, best of lucks and please report back with the results. I'm sure I'm not the only one waiting to see the results. I have pretty much decided to go for it anyway. I mean, I have a 90 degree bent,severe Erectile Dysfunction, barely feel anything, what do I have to lose? absolutely nothing, so I'm going for it. The cost is somewhat high where I live though almost $2000.00 I may try to negotiate or even see if insurance can help. The only thing that may hold me back is if the doctor judges not convenient to do it at the moment. I was diagnosed with a ventral calcified plaque back in in november. I took pentox for 2 months,but I'm not sure if it has worked or not because I know is a very short period of time. I will be very happy though if the calcification is gone, I do notice the plaque not as hard as before so it's possible that the calcification is gone. As soon as James reports I will go for it and will give my 2 cents with my experience.I'm happy to see that this treatment may help improve our condition.

james1947 · « **Reply #77 on:** March 17, 2014, 07:22:34 PM »

IhatePD
The flag is the Romanian flag, but I am living in south east Asia.

Danbon
As I understand from the forum and also from making a very comprehensive Internet search that PRP and Priapus shots are the same.
It is used long time already for cosmetic purposes on the face, breast and all the body parts that ladies are interested to lock more young.
I read on our forum that the Priapus shot is $1,400 in the US.
Also PRP if I am not wrong $350.

James

incautious · « **Reply #78 on:** March 18, 2014, 08:18:37 AM »

james you are right, priapus shot is just a trade name for prp. However most doctors doing prp never imagined injecting one's manhood. That's where Dr. Runnels came in.

restore · « **Reply #79 on:** March 18, 2014, 10:53:16 AM »

This sounds like it might take the place of pentox as the first line of defense right after an injury to the penis.

emasculated · « **Reply #80 on:** March 18, 2014, 01:08:36 PM »

Sorry, but I don't see much of any difference in these before / after pics. Am I the only one here who thinks this is mostly a powerful placebo effect? What makes me especially skeptical is the constant pumping before and after. How can you tell that any minor effect after the stuff was reabsorbed by the body is due to the treatment or just the pumping?
I also wonder about the question I asked earlier about ultrasound checkup. Then someone else here posted they don't even have an ultrasound where they do the treatment. Wouldn't that be a good idea to have ultrasound directed injection to at least get somewhere close to the scar tissue and then a month or so later check whether there has been any change to it? At the moment I don't see more than a powerful placebo effect. Which is understandable when someone injects you in this particular body part there is huge expectation from the patient.

Skjaldborg · « **Reply #81 on:** March 18, 2014, 01:55:14 PM »

I am cautiously optimistic that this will become a viable treatment. However, Emasculated is correct regarding pre- and post-treatment ultrasounds; removal or shrinkage of scar tissue is the only way "cure" Peyronie's. Ultrasounds should be done before and after to get a good idea of what is happening with the scar tissue AND to ensure that the shots themselves aren't causing new scar growth.

Pumping with the VED will temporarily improve girth, so I am more interested in long term follow ups and improvement rather than immediate size increases. I think data, not anecdotes, will reveal if this is an effective treatment in the long run.

Not trying to be a wet blanket here, I want this to work too so I can use it, but I want science to do its job and show the data before I believe in it.

Good luck to everyone trying this and please keep us posted of your progress.

-Skjald

MIKEHAWK · « **Reply #82 on:** March 18, 2014, 04:31:06 PM »

Well it's kinda odd that this has given people a "placebo effect" while everything else that people have tried so far didn't.

So what is so different about the Priapus shot compared to the drugs taken orally, or all the other Anti-inflammatory steroids that was injected previously before the shot?

lol i don't get why people got this so call placebo effect now and didn't get it before.

rellisacct has used PRP before i did at the Wake Forest clinic, even though it's not the Priapus shot it is still the same concept. He has noted that he couldn't get an erection before but now he can after the PRP treatment. So there are a lot of people on the forum with success when it came to prp.

Re: Promising treatment
« Reply #19 on: September 30, 2013, 10:05:23 AM »
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Mike,

I'm not knocking what you're saying by any stretch of the imagination. Before injections, I couldn't even get an erection but now I can (albeit very weak). Additionally, I got my PRP injections performed by the lead researcher in penile tissue regeneration at Wake Forest University, so yes he was using the top of the line centrifuge. I have personallly seen my tissue regenerate from the point of there being huge indentions with hourglassing to looking somewhat straight and normal. I have been a proponent of people who have localized scarring to give it a try if they have the financial means to do it. This could very well lead to good recovery for those individuals. But a cure, this is not.

I am very interested in your Asian trip though. Please let us know how it goes and if you see some good results. I can't continue dropping $600 per individual shot when my penis has such a long ways to go.

Re: Promising treatment
« Reply #21 on: September 30, 2013, 01:47:22 PM »
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Hey Matt,

Dr. Terlecki has been charging me $575 per injection and have received two injections each time I have gone, totalling $1,150. As we say down South, that ain't cheap. I feel that he is reluctant to give me more than 2 injections each time I go for some reason. I truly believe that with enough injections all throughout the penis, there could be some significant improvement, probably back to 75-80% of normal. But as I've said in previous posts, there is such a long ways to go and it could end up costing me well over $15,000 total. MIKEHAWK might be on the right track when he says that he is looking to Asia for further injections.
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james1947 · « **Reply #83 on:** March 18, 2014, 04:52:41 PM »

MIKEHAWK I am with you on that.
Based on the amazing incautious improvements it worth $275 to try.
Even if it will not make nothing, I will make it again.
What other solution I have?
I got back 1/2" using VED, Pentox, low dose Cialis and Ubiquinol in the first month of treatment, now after 2 years no any new improvement.
Stopped Pentox because of side effects, stopped Ubiquinol because can't afford it financially.
Still missing 2" length, almost half of the girth and have Erectile Dysfunction

James

Nemo · « **Reply #84 on:** March 18, 2014, 04:58:24 PM »

I would really like to get on the bandwagon here, but I have yet to see one picture that shows any perceptible change in anything other than swelling. Given that you're injecting the penis with fluid, I would be shocked if I didn't see swelling - but I'm not seeing any change in curvature whatsoever. People are saying they're having amazing results, but their before-and-after pictures looks, for all intents and purposes, identical to me. If I see a pic with even ten-degrees straightening, I'd be impressed.

What am I missing here?

Nemo

james1947 · « **Reply #85 on:** March 18, 2014, 05:10:42 PM »

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Ok so I got the pirapus shot on 2/11/14

The above quote is from incautious first post.

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Curvature is still better than before, and the increase in girth( about 1/2 circumference) is still there

From incautious March 06, 2014, 02:32:56 AM
In my opinion, if it is just swelling will not be there after almost a month.

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Most improvements are apparent in 6-12 week range according to Runnels site

So dear skeptical's, please wait and see what incautious will report at the end of march and mid May.
For me, incautious actual results are enough to give it a try

James

loyalty · « **Reply #86 on:** March 18, 2014, 05:50:00 PM »

I read with interest the posts by Relliacct regarding his experience with PRP injections by Dr. Terlecki at Wake Forest Univ. Based on his results, I then had a single PRP injection by Dr. Terlecki in December 2013, with a modest but significant improvement, indeed probably a greater improvement than I had with the Xiaflex injections. I plan to have additional injections, as Relliacct did and expect further improvements.

I am puzzled by the post injection instructions given to the members here who recently had the Priapus injections regarding the use of VED. Immediately after my PRP injection, Dr. Terlecki specifically warned me about "washout". He stated that erections are to be discouraged for at least a week after the injection to limit the washout of the PRP that would come from the increased blood flow from an erection. I would assume that a VED session would washout the PRP at least as much and perhaps more than an erection.

MIKEHAWK · « **Reply #87 on:** March 18, 2014, 06:37:38 PM »

Loyalty, maybe you should contact Doctor Runels himself regarding his procedure.

Priapus Shot (R) | The Official Website. Description of how the penis can be rejuvenated and enlarged using platelet- derived growth factors (or Platelet-Rich Plasma).

Nemo, what is there to lose in trying? most of the guys here probably dropped thousands on prescription medications over the long run.

1400$ isn't really that much, i can easily save up that much money in a month if i stopped partying or going to clubs. If i had given up on my luxuries and privileges, the money that the shot would have cost me would equal to nothing compare to the benefits.

also there hasn't been anyone with a really severe curvature that has gotten the injection yet.

loyalty · « **Reply #88 on:** March 18, 2014, 07:50:13 PM »

MIKEHAWK. Why would I want to contact Dr. Runels regarding his rationale for recommending VED after PRP? Dr. Terlecki is one of the top Urologists in the country, while Dr. Runels is not even a Urologist (his specialty is Internal Medicine). If a top Urologist tells me erections are to be discouraged after PRP injection to avoid "washout" (his exact words), but an Internist tells his patients to use a VED after Priapus, I know which I advice I would follow. I merely put my experience with PRP out there so that those who are planning to get the Priapus injections have some additional information that might allow them to get more benefit from the PRP by not using the VED for the first week If anyone should contact Dr. Runels about his rationale, it is you and especially anyone else who plans to receive this treatment.

james1947 · « **Reply #89 on:** March 18, 2014, 07:58:57 PM »

Any information and discussions regarding Priapus/PRP injections are much welcomed as we can learn more and more regarding this new treatment.
Please all the forum members that had already the above treatment give us much input as possible.
I am making a compilation with names, dates and posted results, if possible the doctors name also.

James

Mentos · « **Reply #90 on:** March 18, 2014, 08:11:03 PM »

Interesting point that Loyalty brings up regarding use of VED or not.

I used and have had improvements. My thinking was that as the VED stretched out my penis the PRP would model the extended length I was inducing.. But I have no idea whats right or wrong. i never heard of wash out really.

Something we need a defintete answer to tho.

Thanks for the input loyalty and Im glad you have had positive results also.

MIKEHAWK · « **Reply #91 on:** March 18, 2014, 09:11:59 PM »

loyalty, you are the one wondering about this "washout" effect that VED causes and didn't even bother explaining to us what it is. So it made it sound like you cared about what Dr.Runel is doing, personally i don't buy into medical professionals saying that there is only "ONE" way of doing things.

Also if what you say is true, shouldn't PRP not work when injected into muscle tissue? if muscle tissue doesn't get constant blood flow Necrosis will follow right after. So can you please explain to me how can platelet rich plasma speed up recovery of soft tissue when there is constant flood flow? by the logic you had given PRP should not work with any body part. Necrosis is tissue death by the way.

Just because someone is assumed to be the top urologist in the country doesn't mean he is always right. History proves this time and time again, just go look up any well known scientist in this world and they have all been proven wrong at least once.

For decades people believed that Stem Cells cannot be created from mature cells and recently all that research has been proven wrong. By the way they did not just get proven wrong but in a Japanese Lab, and the labs in Japan are way weaker than the ones in the west.

Induced pluripotent stem cell - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Also one last thing, YOU GET ERECTIONS WHEN YOU GO TO SLEEP, people who don't get enough sleep lose length and girth because their penis lose flexibility. If what you say is true than you shouldn't go to bed the first night that you get your PRP injection.

The Science of 'Morning Wood' - YouTube

Yes, lets avoid sleeping when we get our PRP shots cause it's completely normal to get an erection during your sleep. You won't be able to stop the erection otherwise.

So this whole "washout" thing your talking about is non-sense when it's going to happen on the same day anyways. whether you use your VED or not, you're going to have an erection right in the middle of your sleep.

By the way the Science behind Sleep Erections are fairly new, I don't blame your top of the country Urologist for not knowing about this.

Although i'm pretty sure any humble doctor wouldn't tell any patient that there is only "one" way of doing things otherwise when new research comes out he would end up looking like a fool or a ego maniac.

RoyHobbs · « **Reply #92 on:** March 18, 2014, 09:46:32 PM »

Merely trying to stay objective here but I think Loyalty, if you read previous posts, is saying that VED increases likelihood of "washout." My educated guess is that "washout" means that the shot is being washed away from the intended site of treatment with increased blood flow. Like a dam being opened and the current growing stronger.

loyalty · « **Reply #93 on:** March 18, 2014, 09:48:26 PM »

PRP is used in Orthopedics and Sports Medicine for certain chronic injuries like Achilles tendinitis, rotator cuff syndrome, tennis elbow, etc. in which it is injected into the area adjacent to the damaged tendon. It is not injected into a muscle. The post procedure instructions given after a PRP injection for a tendinitis / tendinopathy problem, inform the patient to apply ice to the treated area on and off for 2 days, then resume regular activities after 2 days, and physical therapy usually begins 1 month after the injection. I know that after PRP injection for Achilles tendinitis a Post Op boot is usually prescribed for the first few days to limit movement of the ankle. Therefore it would appear that a concern about "washout" is also being addressed by these instructions, as ice, limitations of usual activities, joint immobilization with a post op boot, and not beginning PT for 1 month, all serve to limit blood flow to the PRP treated area and hence limit washout.

Regarding nocturnal erections, they are of course spontaneous as differentiated from induced erections. Nocturnal erections can be inhibited pharmacologically as is done after Nesbitt and excision and grafting operations. I asked Dr. Terlecki if that would be helpful after PRP but he did not recommend it. His instruction was that erections are to be discouraged which meant induced erections, like during sex. A VED erection would obviously also be an induced erection.

MIKEHAWK · « **Reply #94 on:** March 18, 2014, 09:55:14 PM »

Sorry but you are wrong. PRP is most popular among Muscle Tissue,Cartilage,nerves, and skin injuries. The guy that pioneered the PRP treatment, He himself and many athletes claimed that they didn't notice any difference when it comes to injecting near tendon.

Most noticeable difference came from muscle tissue injections, This is words that came from athletes themselves, even Dr.KO himself didn't understand why it had no affect on tendons.

emasculated · « **Reply #95 on:** March 18, 2014, 10:01:15 PM »

Why don't you guys get together and produce an infomercial for PRP? Your posts are more sounding like spam than anything else. How are these anecdotes informative? Show us studies etc..

MIKEHAWK · « **Reply #96 on:** March 18, 2014, 10:02:31 PM »

Just replying to your comments, if you ask a question than you should expect a reply should you not?

By the way loyalty, i am an athlete and i should know that prolotherapy works way better than PRP injections when it's about tendon tears

Prolotherapy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Nemo · « **Reply #97 on:** March 18, 2014, 10:02:50 PM »

Quote from: MIKEHAWK on March 18, 2014, 06:37:38 PM

Nemo, what is there to lose in trying?

also there hasn't been anyone with a really severe curvature that has gotten the injection yet.

As to whether $1400 is considered "a lot to lose" I'll let each decide for himself. But to your point that no one with a really severe curve has gotten the injection yet - I would contend a less severe curve would be easier to "fix" being as the plaque causing it would be less severe. I'm not looking for a 90-degree curve reduced to 10-degrees - I'd like to see even a 30-degree reduced to 10-degrees because of Priapus. As yet, I haven't seen anything like that.

Again, I would really like to have hope for this, but until I see some real results other than swelling, I'll let you brave souls do the experimenting. I consider my Peyronies Disease-stricken but usable penis "a lot to lose."

Nemo

RoyHobbs · « **Reply #98 on:** March 18, 2014, 10:07:28 PM »

Nemo, wondering the same. I have an 84 degree curve and about to embark on the xiaflex journey. I read through some old posts and saw some decrease but nothing major. That's my biggest concern. Would love to hear major decrease in curvature due to priapus shots.

MIKEHAWK · « **Reply #99 on:** March 18, 2014, 10:09:24 PM »

well Nemo, in the end you'll still lose thousands popping pills, just keep track on how much you have spent on your condition already. I don't really see the difference, in the end it's all the same, whether it's money spent on pills or this.

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