Introducing myself and treatments

[melting]

Hi,

I have Peyronies since 2 years and Im a long time lurker. Read almost anything available and tried some oral supplements, the ved and traction and for ashort sting dmso+iodine.

Nothing has helped me to better the situation up to now. Both traction and the VED gave me some better erection quality and maybe some size but it hasnt helped the condition at all. And I used them religiously.
The Urologists here in germany are 100% useless and have no clue at all. All they can and are willing to do is butchering the dick..NO THANKS.
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Since 2 weekss Im using a dmso based solution and for the first time I can actually feel a difference in the plagues. They feel much softer, my penis hangs much fuller and I have morning erections.

Thinking about it using a transdermal agent like DMSO is the only thing that makes sense. The only other thing in that context that would make sense, and seemed to help some, is to directly inject something into the plagues.

Why?
For me the plagues are sitting at the tunica or bucks fascia(I have several hard plagues). These parts of the body are not circulated by much blood.
If you take medication or a supplement for the heart or any other organ it is soaked in that most the time cause of the constant rapid blood flow. The penis is fully filled only by a full blown erection and even then the plagues seem to rarely come into contact to blood let alone the medication you take to reach them.

Traction alone is also a drop on the hot stone as it mostly stretches the tissue that is healthy. The plagues are rarely affected by the traction, instead the tissue around it is stretched. Simple mechanics.

VED is nice as it fills the penis with blood but try to vacuum a stone inside healthy tissue. The healthy tissue gets expanded and the stone stays like it is in analogy to the hard plagues. I dont see how VED can expand or stretch the hard plagues.

But if you use DMSO it can penetrate even the hardest scar tissue. Its a safe substance tested and used in many clinical trials.
All the supplements taken orally are, at least regarding the plagues, rather useless. They probably reach the plagues with only a small fraction of the inital taken amount if at all.

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The only thing that makes sense to me is soaking the penis and the plagues in a solution that is able to have impact on the hard plagues for as long as often as possible.

I think thats the first reason why thackers formula has helped some people. Cause its is applied for a good amount of time.

Last year I tried some DMSO + Iodine every other day but I think it was also only another drop on a hot stone. The plagues might get some softening for some minutes but they will harden again if not impacted by it often enough.

So what Im doing since some days is to wrap a thin strip of white cloth around my dick and apply a safe plastic wrap(Heal Yourself At Home) around it.
I try to do that as often as possible all day and night long.
I combine the wraps with traction(extender, take care to not get solution into contact with plastic from the extender) and 2 times moderate vaccum by a vacuum device for some minutes.
I also use some infrared heat whenever possible.

I let each wrap stay for at least 30 minutes and change/soak them up at least every 2 hours.

For my solution I use:
70%DMSO
Some ACV
some Magnesium oil
some nascent iodine
some vitamin E
some l carnitine.
and some castor oil.

All of them seem to be able to penetrate together with the dmso transdermaly.
I think there are some other substances that might help.
I plan to make several solutions that I take turns on my penis cause Im not sure if it is good to have all in one solution which might lessen the impact of some ingridients.

Obviously all safety measure regarding dmso have to be taken care of. The castor oil is helping the skin staying smooth as the DMSO tends to dry it up. Some aloe very cream is helpfull if one develops rashes.

Im pretty confident that this will finally help me. The softening is rather profound.
The problem is that once you stop the applications the plagues are hardening again rather fast.
I started this with just 1-2 applications a day and while the plagues seemed to soften right away they were hard again next day.
I only see this working with applying it as often as possible. Best would probably be to use it 24/7. But Im not sure what that would mean to the body long term having such a supplementation of dmso and the other supplements.

Well, I will report if something changes and Im open to suggestions.
I also would like to ask if anyone tried something similar.

I know that some of you will see that as kind of excessive but years of fiddling around carefully didnt help at all. I have no nerves anymore for all those medical trials that never arrive for my dick.

[james1947]

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Our forum experience is not positive regarding DMSO.
Anyhow, I wish you success with the treatment and update us regarding the results.

Welcome to the forum
James

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Thanks  for the welcome James.

I read the DMSO thread and I understand from where the bad experience comes.
The mystical weird, as I feel, talk about the thackers formula didnt help there either. Makes one rather not try it.
But I used DMSO for other things were it helped and one checks it out then there are thousands of scientific papers proving that it works.

Anyway will update if I have some change to report,.

[brettcase]

The Urologists here in germany are 100% useless and have no clue at all. All they can and are willing to do is butchering the dick..NO THANKS.

The Urologists where I live (California) are also mostly useless. There are a few reportedly good ones if I am willing to travel a few hundred miles.

Anyway, have you considered getting injections of Verapamil or Xiaflex? I have not tried either yet, since I only have a small indentation.

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The Urologists where I live (California) are also mostly useless. There are a few reportedly good ones if I am willing to travel a few hundred miles.

Anyway, have you considered getting injections of Verapamil or Xiaflex? I have not tried either yet, since I only have a small indentation.
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Thanks for chiming in.

Well, in germany, after they only approved it for dupuytren they discontinued it totally. They said it has no additional benefits. After reading the reports that it helped some Im very mad. But it might have not helped anyway as I have several plagues and horuglassing.

The doctors here are very keen on going to to the knife which I wont do in any case.

They are very reluctant to prescribe anything as it is said that only surgery helps. And anything prescribed is heavy on their budget.(yeah public health care sucks)

I visited 3 doctors and Im not prepared to go to another one of these clueless idiots.
I know through research of scientific papers and anatomic drawings more then these guys. Actually they made me feel like Im a pain in the ass for knowing more then them.
I would not trust any of them to put a needle into me. Instead I would do it myself.

I for now go the transdermal route in a very disciplined and steady way. I actually fear that through injections more plagues will be build.

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Today I feel very good as my dick is full of blood and the plagues feel still very soft. I also have a tingling feeling inside where one of the bigger plagues is.

I will apply DMSO + my supplements all day long and maybe also during sleep today.