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[JS1991]

Before/During pics: https://imgur.com/a/OVkQg2Y

After pic: https://imgur.com/a/Nh11AEs

I got a lot of hate for fasting, but I hope you guys will believe me now. This was from water fasting, I am now transitioning to dry fasting. The exact process behind healing via fasting is that your body when fasting eats away at dead/damaged/diseased/scar tissue and only that tissue (plus fat of course, but very muscle sparing!) and replaces it with the stem cells you release from your fat/rest of your body. They then flower when you re-feed. Threads, if you would like to follow my ongoing journey:

Water Fasting: Water fasting. - Peyronies Society Forums

Dry Fasting: DRY FASTING - Peyronies Society Forums

Want to learn more about fasting? I highly suggest you watch this documentary, Science of Fasting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1b08X-GvRs

[JohnnyDoe]

Great to hear and see your positive results!

Could you please give a short summary on:
- When you got peyronies
- Your fasting protocol
- How long you did water fasting, and when you started seeing results
- Acute phase or not
- The curvature degree before fasting and after

Thank you

[TonySa]

I can’t see any difference in both erect photos.  How much time elapsed and how long were you fasting?

Also, please use extreme caution re dry fasting as far as I’ve heard it is dangerous and there is no medical research to support its use as a treatment modality.

[JS1991]

Tony, I mean... I don't even know what to say lol there's clearly a crater on my dick under the head in one pic and it's completely smooth in the other pic. Do I have to re-post it and circle it? Dent is located top left of penis in the picture under head. The hesitancy to accept anything regarding fasting is so [email protected]<ing insane that people just see what they want and refuse to believe anything I say. It is a treatment modality in Russia, just not in the West. And thank you very much for the words of caution! I appreciate any positive words. Just watch the documentary I linked to please and it will explain a lot.


Johnny, Thanks! That was about 9 weeks of on and off fasting, meaning I would fast for days, then eat for days, then repeat. Dry fasting does the same thing only faster. There are others on this forum that had the same results as me. I got Peyronie's in January 2018 (check my timeline if you want), my fasting protocol is the Snake Diet, search it. Yes, I am acute phase but my inflammation is down dramatically. Curvature was never an issue for me aside from maybe 5 degrees. I have hourglassing and scar tissue throughout my penis, and I had a painful dent that is no longer there, as clearly seen in the photos I provided.

[JohnnyDoe]

Thanks for explaining. I am thinking of giving it a chance myself aswell. As there can be general health benefits if done in the right manner. Did scarring / hourglassing improve too?

I guess what Tony is seeing is only minor improvements, because most people on here have much bigger dents + curve compared to what is shown in your pics. I have a larger dent and wondering if thas can improve by fasting, have to try and see.

[JS1991]

Denting, specifically, is the one thing that fasting has helped people other than myself fix. Doesn't matter how large the denting is. Skunkworks (a moderator) and another member who posts in the fasting thread both saw improvements. Give it a shot! What do you have to lose? If you're underweight, go with block fasting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0o8HB9WFSc which is specifically designed to help skinny people fast to heal. Snake Diet covers all the bases to keep you safe, they have fasting down to a science (or as close as can be)! And yes, scarring improved too. The best way I can describe it is, little nodules/points of inflammation have smoothed out, and don't hurt as much as they used to. A spot at the base of my penis where I have hourglassing used to be super tender just to touch. No longer the case!

[TonySa]

Js, my apologies as I see it now.  Sure looks improved!  I do believe an anti-inflammatory keto like diet w IF can have beneficial effects.  Just hadn’t seen any concrete changes like this.  Just to be sure with dry fasting, you mean no fluids even water?  If so, how long can you go before dehydration becomes an issue?

[JS1991]

Tony, no problem and apologies if I came off as snapping at you. Keto/IF essentially mimics the benefits of fasting (in my mind) via ketosis/the short fasting window. Longer fasts, you basically are in full blown ketosis the entire time, plus you get the benefit of autophagy.

In terms of dry fasting, yes it is the absence of food and water. It creates the perfect environment in which to heal. Without water, the body creates its own via self-destruction of fat and diseased cells/scar tissue/loose skin/anything non-essential to the body; any cells not at peak health get incinerated. Basically, you feel fine for the first three days, then your electrolytes run out and you start to feel sh!^^y. The longest recorded dry fast was 18 days, which is absolutely ridiculous and I don't suggest anyone doing. The average extended dry fast is between 5-7 days, but as you can guess you don't feel the best towards the end of it, and it can be dangerous if you don't know what you're doing. I know it sounds crazy, but there is definitely a misconception on how long one can go without food or water (science says 3 days, that's BS) and it honestly does create the ultimate environment in which to let your body heal itself. It is specifically great at eating scar tissue.

Here is a day by day account from the founder of the Snake Diet of a 7 day dry fast; how he feels each day, weight differences, etc.: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ep3LNSryj0E The man tested everything first before presenting it as a healing protocol, and a lot of people are seeing miraculous benefits. Go to the Dry Fasting thread for more info, I posted a LOT of different links in that thread to help educate people on the process. Most importantly, it is extremely muscle sparing. The body only pulls 4% of it's daily "nutrition" from muscle, the rest comes from fat and unhealthy, obsolete tissue, which then gets replaced with stem cells you release while breaking down body fat. Your human growth hormone spikes to over 500%, which also helps protect muscle. Of course, once you run out of fat, you're in big trouble so one must fatten up before attempting. And, of course, do their research beforehand!

Also, within the fasting community there are two types of dry fasts. A "hard" dry fast and a "soft" dry fast. Hard dry fast is no contact whatsoever with water; no showering, brushing teeth, washing hands, etc. Your body, as I stated before, turns into a furnace while dry fasting, so it doesn't really smell at all and that includes your breath, so it's not too bad from what I hear. The body becomes like a sponge when dry fasting and will absorb any water it touches, which is why for the most potent autophagy you can get, one would do a "hard" dry fast.

[diehardpatriot]

hell yeah JS. I did a 48 hour dry fast this week and felt great. Cant wait until i can go into the 90 hour dry fast range then keep going with salt water. Im very excited to get into extended fasting like 7 days plus

[jj21]

Great results man. I am glad you have found something which is working for you.

Has the hourglassing healed?

[JS1991]

jj, thanks! Minor improvements in hourglassing, yes. I don't anticipate seeing major results in my hourglassing until I begin dry fasting, and I might couple that with VED.

Patriot, keep it up bro! You got this! I know you're underweight, so just don't waste too much of your valuable fat on water fasting, try to limit it to just dry fasting if possible; this is where the real healing occurs.

[diehardpatriot]

Thanks JS. It’s crazy how I view my fat as “valuable” haha! It’s so hard for me to put on fat due to my fast metabolism so yes I do cherish my body fat!

[Werther]

Tony, I mean... I don't even know what to say lol there's clearly a crater on my dick under the head in one pic and it's completely smooth in the other pic. Do I have to re-post it and circle it? Dent is located top left of penis in the picture under head.

I don't want to get you mad but I can't see any difference between pre-fasting and post-fasting pics as Tony said.

Besides, you said that you got rid of a dent "located top left of penis in the picture under head": so why did you post a photo of your right part of the penis post fasting (https://imgur.com/a/OVkQg2Y) which clearly can't show anything since you're talking about a dent located on the left?

I also don't see any kind of dent under your top left of the penis so the relevant post fasting picture (https://imgur.com/a/Nh11AEs) doesn't show any difference when compared to the pre fasting ones (https://imgur.com/a/OVkQg2Y) - which anyhow don't show any dents or "craters" imo -.

Beware, I'm not saying that you're spreading BS in this thread nor I'm trying to bash fasting: I'd just like to genuinely understand what were your results because based on your pics and your description I personally can't see any.

[diehardpatriot]

Guys. Look at the second pre fasting photo on the left side right under the head. There’s literally a hole (crater) in his penis

[Werther]

I might be blind but I can't see any hole/crater on the left side right under the head (i.e. second photo posted at this link https://imgur.com/a/OVkQg2Y). Consequently the "post fasting" pic (i.e. only photo posted at this link https://imgur.com/a/Nh11AEs) doesn't show any difference when compared to the former.

I don't know... Maybe the problem is that the last photo is upside down so that we can't properly compare it to the "pre-fasting" one? If this is the case, JS could post a new photo taken from the same angulation to shed light on this alleged improvement.

Then, again, I still don't understand why he said that he had a dent located on the left and the first photo posted - whose caption is "Post-fasting dent, located above vein under head" - portrays his right side (i.e. first photo posted at this link https://imgur.com/a/OVkQg2Y): based on JS's words it's not even clear where the dent was... Right or left? 

[TonySa]

Taking photo as same angle and direction of photo w dent would show it more clearly.  It took me a bit to identify the dent in second photo.

[JS1991]

Hopefully this helps, I circled it: https://m.imgur.com/a/ooy1vAe

I’ll take another picture too if you guys want lol. It is indeed located under my head on the right side. When I said top left I meant top left corner of the picture, not my penis.

[Werther]

Ok, right side of the dick.

Anyhow I don't see any difference.

Photos should be taken at the same angle to tell exactly what changed (take a look at this 10 months along with RestoreX - Peyronies Society Forums).

I'm not asking specifically for new pics of your dick, just giving you a piece of advice: if you claim having had improvements, photos should show it clearly like thinkpositive's ones for example. You can't just expect people to believe that water fasting dissolved a scar on your penis that is barely visible first hand by posting a "post-fasting" photo which is upside down when compared to the "pre-fasting" one. That's why you don't see any excitement on this thread: evidence keeps lacking.

[JS1991]

Werther, it's hard to take pictures of the dent; it relies on shadow to be be seen in phone pics. I can't go back and retake the old pics. I no longer have the dent though, and many others have seen great improvement in fasting. I'm not here to argue, believe me or don't.

[EveningAnxiety]

Hey. After this thread, I've looked into intermittent fasting. Do you think intermittent fasting over a long period can give the same results?

[Newbern]

Hey. After this thread, I've looked into intermittent fasting. Do you think intermittent fasting over a long period can give the same results?

This is my question as well. 

[TonySa]

It could help w inflammation, but be sure to incorporate other treatment modalities as well,

[diehardpatriot]

Evening: no , intermittent fasting lowers overall systemic inflammation and increases overall health . But the autophagy effect is not and will never be As intense as a long fast. In my opinion , repeated extended fasts will give the best results. (Example: fast for 5 days once a month, or 72 hours once a week)

[skunkworks]

Hey. After this thread, I've looked into intermittent fasting. Do you think intermittent fasting over a long period can give the same results?

No-one will be able to give you a solid answer on this. It is my opinion that no, you will never achieve anywhere near the results of multi day fasting with intermittent fasting.

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