The main symptoms
In the (flaccid state)
Changing in the size and the Characteristics
-   Penile not shrinking any more as it was before , its become larger in circumference
              and length(its always before normally like 3cm now its 8cm length).
-   Shrinks but not entirely , when lying down sometimes when am taking shower , only in the length not the circumference
-   Its not shrinking when urinate as some says, but sometimes when urinate its look like a flaccid balloon filled with water  .
In the (erection state)
Controlling , feeling , sense losing and dysfunction .
-   I cant controls it up like before,  just like When you bend your  arm and give the command to the muscle there to contract ,and it's not  responds ,or contracting the muscles of abdomen area, in the penile this command is the same one which contract the anus muscles (I know it's the same group of the pelvic floor muscles but the anus ones responds as will) .
-   somehow feels too heavy and going to the down direction , or the Gravity of the earth increased 2 or 3 times just for it because this lose in control.
-   when I push it down, there is no strong resistance to up which I always have .specially when I'm standing up, and this will take the Erection to end in a very bad way no matter how strong it was, because of the mental and the emotional state , that's feel  so numb that you cant control it .
-     -I can see Veins, arteries and capillaries clearly larg sometimes, in the past thats never happend.
-   I have 70-80% may be more , from my normal Erection but I lost most of the sexual Pleasure feels and sense of its skin.
-   No pain
-   The emotional stress caused by this experience

--------------------- when and what happened :
I masturbate a lot (4-10 in day), in that day(1.5 year ago) I Prevented ejaculation too long  time normally I always stop masturbating when I feel Tingling(some pain) in the outer layer of it , but this time I didn't stop  and after ejaculation I saw so Artery or vein bulbous and beats, pulsing  on the left side behind  the head, but without any pain and erection disappeared and took its current form
In that day never moved again , the erection recovered in 2-3 days to 70% and that thing like Vein a bubble was also gone Gradually.
Hard flaccid or CPPS or what ever it is , its sucks .
I'm 28 and have only recently started having a healthy sex-life, and this is to hard
---------------------- what I have done :
As most of who have this thing , I did all the medical , physical tests and examination , everything is good
Ultrasound passed
Penile is OK No Venous leak No peyronies No Fibrosis
Nerve examination is OK
Prostate is OK too
nothing wrong ,
doing some sport
I have take some anti biotic, Anti-inflammatories  its just do no thing  
did 2 days of kegels but I stopped it ,it Caused some pain in the perineum area ,and I read about being not useful When the muscle are stressful or cramped .
I've read "Hard Flaccid Unraveled" book ,it's a very good book for starting of the end as he said .
Trying to relax my self and let it go may be that will release the pelvic floor muscles

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So
Any one have the same or exact experience and symptoms , ingoing or out , need his medical or physical advice in any way
it will HELP .

hf

From what you are writing about symptoms, in my opinion you don't have Peyronies, but I am not a doctor.
Who knows, maybe it will develop later to Peyronies, maybe not.
Also you have made tests that didn't found any Peyronies symptoms.
As I understand correct, you have this hard flaccid and ED.
What kind of treatment your doctor proposed to you?
Sorry not to be too much of help.

James

Quote from: james1947 on May 02, 2014, 04:41:06 PM

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no its not Peyronies,
Urologists doctors wasn't helpfull keep telling me every thing just fine thing , and as I read in the book (Hard Flaccid Unraveled) , its a Muscular cramp , and needs to Psychological treatment and physiotherapy to relase these PF  muscules .

but I need some one have experince this , thank you james1947

I can't make sense of your descriptions. Your penis got bigger in the flaccid state? To me hard flaccid means the penis is much smaller than usual flaccid and hardened all over. I also experienced temporary relieve from strong anti-inflammatories (high dose ibuprofen) which proves to me it's inflammation of the tunica albuginea. And one can have that without any plaques, deformity or size reduction at erection (yet). It's the early start of Peyronies. But I'm not saying you have that since I can't make sense of your text.

Hf,

Your hard flaccid is caused by over masturbation. I had it for years and peyronies came after. Don't kid yourself. I took a two week break and finally it went away, this means no arousal or stimulation. At first it might seem to get worse but after two weeks or so it should diminish. Hard flaccid is a sign of poor penile oxygen saturation. VED and stopping sexual stimulation will rid you of it. Most of us with penis issues obsessively check our erections, even if we don't masturbate. This is the worst thing we could be doing. Let your body naturally guide erections. It took me about a month off stimulation to start to have morning erections again. At that point hard flaccid was gone. While I won't say peyronies is caused exclusively by excessive masturbation or sex, it seems stupidly obvious that it triggered mine. Let your penis heal from years of strain and chronic inflammation.

Locking this as in introduction topic. Feel free to post questions in the appropriate section of the forum.
Les