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Traction and VED for penis enlargement
« on: March 15, 2015, 02:16:17 PM »

Just wondering i am currently wearing a traction device 6 hours a day. Only really just got the hang of it.. not gains yet. Dr Franklin told me it's ok to use a penis pump (VED) along side traction. Thing is how much time does that take up and like how much girth will be gained. I'm currently 5.5 inches in girth he said don't go over 6... but i would like a good 1cm or 2 before stopping. Should i use a pump aswell... thing is i thought you just use it like 15 minutes per day but apparently you can wear it for hours with breaks?
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« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2015, 06:17:08 PM »

Steve87:

No, the VED is not "worn", it is used by placing the cylinder over the shaft of the penis and applying the vacuum as indicated by the protocol for the model VED you are using.  It is to be used not more than 30 minutes on a daily basis.

15 minute sessions are the best method, but you could do two 15 minutes sessions in a day if they are spaced out from each other approximately 8 or so hours. 30 minute sessions at one time, especially when just starting the therapy, is just too much added pressure on the penis.

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Re: Traction and VED for penis enlargement
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2015, 07:20:30 PM »

Thanks for the reply, I think Franklin got confused with traction. Do you know how much penis length can be gained. I know someone said 40 week you get roughly 1 inch lengh maybe just under and 1 inch girth. Thing is i really do not want to have to much girth because if i hit 6 i may be only 6.5 inches length which is good but i means i should really stop using an extender as that too does give girth gains.
Any of you seen much on hanging? I was looking at the PEGYM forum and noticed that there is actually 3 different devices for penis enlargement... VED, extenders and hanging... maybe i should look into that... but jelqing i will stay away from...
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Re: Traction and VED for penis enlargement
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2015, 08:29:51 PM »

I have looked into this because I have lost length to Peyronies Disease. The only "positive" study is the one due to Levine which only showed _flaccid_ increase in length from traction. I don't know of any permanent change from pumping (ved). I doubt there can be any. If anything it will give you a temporary and slight increase in girth. And btw.. all these things _can_ give you more Peyronies... For me I did not see any use in continuing with ved and I don't see any use from traction. It's just a painful waste of time. But of course it's up to each guy whether he thinks it helps him.
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« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2015, 09:48:40 PM »

Steve, it sounds like you're awfully hung up on enlarging your penis - which is not what the VED is for. In fact, if you're attempting to pump in the VED beyond your natural size, you're just asking for injury and additional Peyronie's damage. If you think you're going to gain even a single inch (much less multiple inches) or an inch in girth, my friend, you're dreaming. Do not even attempt such with a VED

Now, if we're talking about regaining length/girth LOST to Peyronie's Disease, that's another story. Some improvement is possible in this regard - but get it out of your head that you're going to exceed your natural, pre-Peyronies Disease, size. To attempt this is to dance with the Devil. 

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Re: Traction and VED for penis enlargement
« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2015, 03:47:15 AM »

Steve

I want to add that I agree with all the answers you got on this topic.
And yes, as Nemo wrote, To attempt this is to dance with the Devil.
Of course you are enough mature to do whatever you want and at your own responsibility.

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Re: Traction and VED for penis enlargement
« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2015, 10:13:15 AM »

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Please read the forum rules!!! And obey them!!!

I would like to know if there are any members who have successfully achieved both: enlarged the penis and improved the peyronie situation.
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Re: Traction and VED for penis enlargement
« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2015, 12:00:46 PM »

This is purely for enlarging just want to make that clear. Dr Franklin told me (who has done hundreds of penis surgeries for congential and peyronies) that you can enlarge your penis using traction, you get minimal gains but depending on how much you wear it... you can gain like 1cm in 3 months from 6 hours a day he said. He has had clients who have used such methods and have gained. I know that isn't 'scientifically proven' but do you rally thing clients who have had his surgery are going to lie?
I mean i know it's not exactly safe but i want to regain a size i once had...
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« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2015, 12:01:49 PM »

I'm pretty sure i heard somewhere that Dr Franklin has used such methods himself and it has worked. This will also even out my penis as the girth is not exactly even.
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Re: Traction and VED for penis enlargement
« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2015, 03:45:51 PM »

I think Steve, you didn't read Nemo statement:
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...regaining length/girth LOST to Peyronie's Disease...get it out of your head that you're going to exceed your natural, pre-Peyronies Disease, size.
Also from your posts I understand that this topic is completely unnecessary as you know already all the answers and what you want to do.
Wish you good luck

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I am still waiting from you to tell us what is your connection to Peyronies!!!


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Re: Traction and VED for penis enlargement
« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2015, 05:17:54 PM »

I had a congenital penis curve and recently lost about a cm (although i thought my penis was bigger but because of the way it curved it wasn't)... no connection to peyronies what so ever. I saw his comment but i've been told by my surgeon ti is safe... as long as you don't go over a certain degree on the pump or something. I think i will just stick to traction though it seems not much length can be gained from it. It's just i heard you can gain like a good half inch length in 4 months... from just 15 minutes per day... instead of wearing for 6 hours a traction device... if you see what i mean. That's why i was wondering if i want to speed up the process it may be a good option to add in. Was wondering what people may think.
Sorry i know this is sub area if for peyronies i should not have really posted it here but i did loose size from surgery.
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Re: Traction and VED for penis enlargement
« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2015, 05:30:15 PM »

Steve

I lost 6.5 cm to Peyronies and got back 1.5 cm and some girth with carefully using VED.
But as you say, your problem is congenital and not Peyronies so I can't say how it will affect you.

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« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2015, 05:31:45 PM »

Oh ok thanks. This is something i should really post on a penis enlargement forum.
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Re: Traction and VED for penis enlargement
« Reply #13 on: March 16, 2015, 05:39:08 PM »

Just take in consideration Steve that many from the "penis enlargement" forums (cant say %) ended up here with Peyronies.
For this reason, filter carefully the answers you will get there.

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Re: Traction and VED for penis enlargement
« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2015, 05:57:05 PM »

So if you can still naturally get erections, or with supplements/cialis, is there any point to using the VED outside of gaining or regaining size? For instance if you do get morning erections semi-regularly, does that do the "circulative" work that needs to be done? I think a lot of people want to know if they can slow down the disease or deformity by using VED.
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Re: Traction and VED for penis enlargement
« Reply #15 on: March 16, 2015, 06:19:04 PM »

I have porn induced Erectile Dysfunction and also pelvic problems. I don't really get morning erections or random ones either at the moment. Thats mainly because of the porn induced Erectile Dysfunction. I think VED could also help me with that area too.
I am purely looking to get length in my penis also if it evened out that would be a bonus. My penis looked 7 inches before... turns out you don't measure it the way you'd think when it's curved... my penis is now 6 inches... i know thats still a decent size but mentally it's quite sad... i'm also quite tall so having a regular size looks smaller on me (don't think that is really a point just thought i'd throw it in).

My pelvic problems are due to kegeling for hours to porn, clenching my pelvic region and such... i'm currently trying to loosen it up. Problem with that is GP's and urlogists don't know kegels cause that kind of problem...

EDIT: I'm 18 by the way i really should be getting random erections... yet alone morning ones.
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« Reply #16 on: March 16, 2015, 06:23:56 PM »

James, your right on that. But Dr franklin (who recommended me the device) deals with peyronies problems and is very experienced in all areas to do with penis stuff. If peyronies could be caused by traction or VED (on a normal healthy penis) I think he would know about it, a lot of his clients use such devices. He did tell me though that jelqing can cause things like peyronies. The main risk of traction is your glans loosing circulation and your glans getting damaged. My glans never seem to even go slightly pale and i do check my penis regularly.
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« Reply #17 on: March 16, 2015, 07:31:59 PM »

Steve, with all due respect, given your self-reported addiction to pornography and your seeming obsession with the length and girth of your penis, I fear you're headed down a very dangerous path. You can discount, nearly 100%, the crap you will see on penis enlargement forums - those are notorious hangouts for liars, photoshoppers, braggarts and dreamers.

You need to concentrate on having a HEALTHY penis, not a penis that's x-inches long, or x-inches in girth.  I don't care who your doctor is, but if he's encouraging you that you can get more from your penis than God gave you, he's sending you down a very dangerous path. 

Am I right in understanding that you don't even have Peyronie's?  If that's the case, count your blessings, deal with your addictions, and forget your obsession with the size of your penis, or you're going to be here asking us how to fight the Peyronie's damage you've caused. 

Just a little unsolicited advice. 

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« Reply #18 on: March 17, 2015, 01:18:04 PM »

Thanks. But i want to regain the size i lost from surgery. I'm dealing with addiction well... if anything wearing a traction device helps because i don't have time to masturbate nor do i want to get erect in my device. I have found lots of sources that seem very legit about gains and haven't been able to find someone claiming they have gotten peyronies from using a penis extender. Isn't the device actually meant to help peyronies... how would it cause it? I'm pretty sure i would get blood vessels bursting (something like that can happen if you over use it) before developing plaque somehow anyways. I mean it's stretching the penis... it's not targeting 1 area of the penis with a lot of force exactly?
Thank you for looking out for me though but i really need that confidence boost i will get if i manage to gain some size.
Also being 18 i think my penis is at a stage where it would fracture... not create plaque if somehow i did damage it?
Thanks again though i know your all trying to help but this seems like a win, win situation... evening out my penis... regaining length... also helping with not watching porn and once i have recovered from porn in 3 - 4 months my penis will hopefully be a good 1cm bigger...
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« Reply #19 on: March 17, 2015, 01:19:16 PM »

I will email Dr Franklin and ask if traction can cause such i think... i mean he knows all about the penis i think he would know if there was a chance. Do you have any links to people who have claimed to have gotten it from traction?
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« Reply #20 on: March 17, 2015, 01:57:21 PM »

Steve, honestly, you frighten me. I've gone back and read through your posts and from what I can piece together, you had a congenital curve that was corrected with surgery, and you are now talking about trying to reach these ideal proportions you feel a penis needs to be to make you feel confident. But your numerous questions about what sex is actually like, what will please a women the most so she will be faithful, etc., etc., combined with your addiction to the fantastical world of pornography leads me to believe you have become obsessed with your penis in an unhealthy way. For instance, you describe your natural girth as around 5.8" at the base, yet you talk about "stopping" your therapy when you reach 6" girth, so it won't be "too big." This is fantasy.

Son, seriously, you need to get a few years of experience on you before you go attempting to permanently modify your penis on the basis of theory/fantasy/distorted perception. 

I will say this one more time, and then I'm taking myself out of this discussion, because you seem unshakable in your obsession, but listen to me carefully - if you are attempting to regain some length lost to your surgery, and your doctor is coaching you through this, fine. But if you are attempting to "build" what you think is a mega penis BEYOND your natural dimensions, you are BEGGING for trouble. Your dimensions pre-surgery and even post-surgery are ABOVE the average. Fly too close to the sun, friend, and you are going to melt your penis.

I don't know any more diplomatic way to warn you and won't try any further. If the penis were so easily make larger than God intended, believe me, we would ALL know about it. 

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« Reply #21 on: March 17, 2015, 02:13:31 PM »

Nemo

You are spending too much of your time on this topic and in any case Steve will not listen to no one except the penis enlargement forums crooks.

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« Reply #22 on: March 17, 2015, 03:52:06 PM »

I just wanted to gain back what i lost  Not trying to build a mega penis just like 1cm in length. With all respects most people on here are middle aged + and probable know that penis size doesn't matter... but to someone who is young and is planing on starting sex loosing a bit of size is quite bad on the whole confidence thing. Especially as i thought it was 7 before now it's 6. Sorry didn't want to come across as mad. And i'm taking advice from Dr Franklin not anyone on dodgy penis enlargement websites.

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« Reply #23 on: March 17, 2015, 04:14:33 PM »

Steve:

Just want to give my input on penile enlargement. Once you have reached the age of puberty, your penis will have grown to its fullest or almost. There will be little, if any enlargement after that age.

The only enlargement you might develop is when you have lost size and/or shape based on Peyronies Disease, sometimes Erectile Dysfunction and/or some other trauma causing a lose. You can bring back the lost dimension with the use of penile enlargement or ''stretching'' events such as using the VED therapy.

Most Peyronies Disease cases where dimensions are lost, the VED has a history of helping return them to their pre Peyronies Disease size and shape. My person case, my lost dimensions due to prostate surgery and Peyronies Disease have been restored by just over a year of almost daily VED sessions.

There are other cases that have received the same therapy result. Some on the Peyronies Disease forum and some on other men's health forums on the web.

Just my 2 cents on the subject of penile enlargement. Some tribal colonies in the lower Pacific Islands areas have, according to the National Geographic Magazine, used weights placed on young men's penises for many years have resulting large penises. However these enlargements did not allow for vaginal sex. So, why would anyone want to do that to their most prized possession? Take care of what you were born with since IMHO, you will never be able to accomplish increase in size etc. over your natal size.

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« Reply #24 on: March 17, 2015, 04:26:52 PM »

I'm not getting full erections at all at the moment i think due to the porn induced Erectile Dysfunction combined with the pelvic floor problems. Should i be using VED (not for enlargement purposes but for general penis health?). I read that getting peyronies only happens when you use too much tension. Funny how only one site mentions it.. guessing these penis enlargement sites try to remove them or something. I will go easy on the traction, i only wear it 6 hours a day too so.
Thanks for the insight. I will try it for a month or 2 and if i see no gains i will stop.
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« Reply #25 on: March 18, 2015, 07:42:40 PM »

Feel free to delete this topic it's not needed.
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« Reply #26 on: March 18, 2015, 08:34:39 PM »

Why to delete the topic Steve?
People invested time answering to your questions that may help others also.

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« Reply #27 on: March 19, 2015, 03:43:50 PM »

Oh ok then i just thought you guys wouldn't want it on here as it's kind of promoting something you don't agree with.

I did find a website that said peyronies can be caused by traction but it didn't look like any kind of official medical website or anything. I showed it to Dr Franklin and mentioned the idea of traction causing such a thing and he said the comment was very unprofessional and the idea also. The UK NHS website does also mention extenders and does say there is some evidence that proves it can enlarge the penis. Just want to highlight again i'm not listening to penis enlargement crooks i'm listening to a very experienced surgeon who knows a lot about the penis.
- I know you guys don't really want this discussed more but i just wanted to add that for people who may read this thread.


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« Reply #28 on: March 21, 2015, 05:07:40 AM »

Personally I've had good results using traction to gain length. I think I can go on forever on this topic in terms of my learning experiences and my views, so I will do my best to just provide the cliff notes.

1. I found that traction was completely ineffective at reducing congenital curvature which was my primary goal.
2. I was able to gain ~.5" from traction exercises performed on and off over the past year. Gains appear permanent and real.
3. The extender device for the purposes I was interested in seemed completely ineffective. Firstly it didn't fit (again size wasn't my problem), and secondly, the approach that I found worked best was somewhat different than the approach used by the extender.
4. What I did find worked was using my hand to manually apply traction in the same way that the extender might, but using slightly greater force.** I would exercise once or twice a day for ~15min, about every other day. - I would apply traction for ~15 sec, then rest for ~15 sec for the ~15 min.


**I really hesitate to say this because obviously if you apply too much force you can hurt yourself. Since I feel this is an extremely important topic I will go into a bit more detail on this one.

My philosophy is that penis length can be influenced just like you might influence muscle mass on your body. I took an analogous approach:

1. Provide stress: This is just like lifting weights at the gym. The main challenge, and THE most important aspect, is finding the right level of intensity. For example, if you curled a 2lb weight non stop, even for the entire day you would see no improvement in muscle mass (to me this is analogous to the extenders which provide a low level of force for hours). On the other end, if you tried to curl your body weight for one rep, you will most likely pull a muscle. You want the right level of intensity to provide the right level of "damage". I think damage is the right word to use here because that is exactly what you are doing and is why you MUST be extremely careful (just like if you were lifting weights at a gym). This also leads into part 2.

2. Heal: Again going back to the weight lifting analogy. Say you find the right level of intensity, if you did the same work out day after day you would find that your body would still not gain muscle; instead your body would begin to break down. In order to actually gain something, whether its muscle, or penis length, your body needs the chance to heal. This is generally on the order of 1 - 2 days if you are at the right intensity level. Its ironic, but during these "off days" are when you will actually be making your gains.

For me, the right intensity level seemed to be something that produces mild soreness that goes away after ~1 day. You should take it very very slow figuring out what it takes to get to that point.

As a closing note, obviously be extremely careful. Especially aimed at Steve, penis enlargement is just one more thing to become obsessed about and can potentially have extremely harmful consequences if overdone. Exercising harder, or more frequently will not produce faster results. You literally need to give your body time to grow. The exercises are just providing the stimulus.
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« Reply #29 on: March 21, 2015, 07:45:19 AM »

Thanks alot Aero T. I read that you should have a day off every week to allow the penis to heal which leads to better gains. I have been following the Andropenis extender guide. They have a method where they apply alot of rods very quickly and it's an intense stretch... i avoided this and chose to do the standard method of which you add length to the extender more gradually. I wear the device 6 hours a day. To gain everyone says you have to do it consistently, the fact that you gained half an inch is pretty impressive considering you were on and off. My routine is alot less strenuous then the special method Andropenis has of which is proven to be safe... so i think i am out of harms way from any serious injury (touch wood).
Just wondering before you used your special method for your curve... how much did you wear it per day... also rest times... like daily?

EDIT: (this is in regard to lengthening i understand your method was for straightening) Your analogies sound good but with lengthening i think time wearing it is important and wearing it for long times e.g 2 hours then break... but yes overdoing it will slow down results and damage you.
For example Dr Franklin made me do penis therapy which is stretched the flaccid penis to help heal from the surgery. You could do 5 seconds then 5 seconds break... but because i started later i had to do a more intense stretch which was 30 seconds then 10 seconds break. the longer you wear it the better but obviously stop when you feel pain and do not go over 2 hours.
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Re: Traction and VED for penis enlargement
« Reply #30 on: March 21, 2015, 01:59:29 PM »

No, I did 1-2 rest days per ONE exercise day. I did not use the device, I just used my hands. This was practical as I would only exercise ~15-30 min per day.

I think what you have said sounds very reasonable since it sounds like you are proceeding with the guidance of your doctor. Just make sure you listen to your body. If you are getting more and more sore, you should probably rest. Know that this will provide much more benefit than pushing on.
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« Reply #31 on: June 30, 2015, 06:29:18 AM »

I know this is an old thread. but reply to those such as @james and @old man who made comments apon me suggesting extenders can be used for penis enlargement. You both practiaclly denied that you can enlarge your penis and that it was stupid me thinking so. I've managed to gained 1/2 inches in erect length and about the same in flaccid. My penis has also evened out a bit. My erection quality seems to have actually increased a bit as well. I've been wearing the device for only 4 hours per day with some penis stretching as well... others wear it for 8+ hours and gain a lot faster.
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« Reply #32 on: June 30, 2015, 07:15:25 AM »

I think was a misunderstanding Steve :)
What Old Man and me are saying is that no one can get more than he had before Peyronies.
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Once you have reached the age of puberty, your penis will have grown to its fullest or almost. There will be little, if any enlargement after that age.
Myself got back with VED 1/2" from 2&1/2" lost to Peyronies.
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I just wanted to gain back what i lost  Not trying to build a mega penis just like 1cm in length

I agree and I suppose that Old Man too to your above sentence. :)

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« Reply #33 on: June 30, 2015, 11:08:33 AM »

Oh i see, perhaps there was. But Old man said:
''The only enlargement you might develop is when you have lost size and/or shape based on Peyronies Disease, sometimes Erectile Dysfunction and/or some other trauma causing a lose. You can bring back the lost dimension with the use of penile enlargement or ''stretching'' events such as using the VED therapy.''
He was saying you can only regain from size lost... i'm not a peyronies case I had congenital yet I gained in size.

I thought you somewhat indicated that enlargement was rubbish if you didn't have peyronies when you said...
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You are spending too much of your time on this topic and in any case Steve will not listen to no one except the penis enlargement forums crooks.
James''

When Infact I was advised to use the device by my surgeon Dr Franklin who has a extensive knowledge on the penis (no one replied to this I don't think)

I did keep saying I just wanted to gain a cm or 2 but people were getting worried I was wanting to build a mega penis. You have reason to think this though... there is a guy on PEGYM who had a 8.5 inch penis and through manual stretching he is now 10/11 inches or something...
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« Reply #34 on: June 30, 2015, 11:11:47 AM »

I can see a confusion as old man thinks I have peyronies. He didn't explicitly say you can gain more then you've lost or that you can't to be fair. But the messages after such as I'm just listening to penis enlargement crooks made me to believe that you lot thought penis enlargement (unless due to size lost) is rubbish.
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« Reply #35 on: June 30, 2015, 12:42:14 PM »

"rubbish" might be a bit strong...but...

Since Peyronie's appears to be scarring in response to perceived (at the Tunica level) injury, it is logical to assume that aggressive "stretching" could easily tear the Tunica and even be a potential cause for the initial development of the scar/plaque.  Patience appears to be key in either case.  We are not a patient society...  :/
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« Reply #36 on: June 30, 2015, 04:48:32 PM »

You know I'm a congenital case right (mentioned it a few times below...? What you said (hope i don't sound like too much of a douche) is not. I was talking about how people were saying traction does not work for penis enlargement for penises without peyronies.
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« Reply #37 on: June 30, 2015, 04:55:58 PM »

As I understand, Dr. Kuehass (that I have big esteem for him) advising traction after surgery, not as a way to enlarge your penis.

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« Reply #38 on: June 30, 2015, 08:02:10 PM »

I do understand you are dealing with a congenital curvature.  The nature is extremely similar, in that one side of your Tunica is not as long as the other.  Gentle stretching through traction may be able to correct over time...time being the key.  Overly aggressive stretching might turn congenital curvature into Peyronie's...if it creates scar inducing injury.  Just be patient with whatever you do.
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« Reply #39 on: July 01, 2015, 07:27:25 AM »

Ok one thini i have explained in my last few messages. I'm cured i have had surgery and my penis is now dead straight... i'm talking about pure penis enlargment.
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« Reply #40 on: July 01, 2015, 12:19:01 PM »

Penis enlargement is not the way to go, in my opinion.  If your penis is now healthy, jump up and down for joy.

In a real relationship, function is much more important than size.  Anybody who tells you otherwise doesn't know what a real relationship is.

Efforts at enlargement are extremely likely to cause injury, and run a very high risk of causing Peyronie's...also my opinion.  Peyronie's is scar tissue, which is generated in response to a perceived injury.

To be honest, my wife of 25 years was unhappy with her first husband for many reasons...one was that he was too large.  Combined with his complete lack of compassion during sex, it caused her pain.  Don't buy the "bigger is better" crap...it is crap.  In fact, once back when I was fully functional, I was particularly hard...and it was literally on the verge of causing her pain from the size.  Measurement wise, I measured absolutely average at that time...about 1 1/2" to 1 3/4" diameter and  5 1/2" in length.

Most of us here would give our eye teeth to have proper function.  Celebrate your penis health by taking extremely good care of it, and finding a woman who loves you for all of you...as you are. 

Just the advice of an old man who's had more than his share of relationship issues...NONE of which would have been solved by having a bigger dick.
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« Reply #41 on: July 01, 2015, 01:33:48 PM »

Well my point was that you can gain from penis extenders. Women do seem to say that 7 is pretty ideal. Mine was 7 before so i'm hoping to get back to that size. I took pride in that and it was quite hard finding out it is now 6 (after surgery). Either way... touch wood i haven't come close to injury. Penis extenders use minimal force. I wear it only 4-6 hours a day... take more then required break imbetween. In regards to adding rods to increase the stretch i have done that slowly.
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« Reply #42 on: July 01, 2015, 02:41:23 PM »

again, please consider...use extreme caution.  Any "tearing" of the tunica will stimulate scarring in response, and after dealing with congenital curvature, I think you have at least some idea of what Peyronie's is about.  I can assure you that the pain and complete dysfunction is NOT something you want to even tempt.
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« Reply #43 on: July 01, 2015, 05:27:53 PM »

Yeah agreed. My surgeon did say though there is literally no chance of it (touch wood, don't wanna jinx myself) that I can get it... I would get burst blood vessels before getting peyronies. If i got that I think I would stop traction.
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