How is peyronie's "progressive"?

[technique755]

I'm confused. I've asked numerous times "So peyronie's is just scar tissue along the tunica" and gotten the answer "yes"

If that's the case how is peyronie's progressive? Scar tissue doesn't grow. It's not a living,breathing human being. It's just collagen-defensive formation over an injury or wound.

When you get cut, you get a scar. Over time it disintigrates/gets smaller and less noticeable. The same applies to internal scars as well. My mom had some.


To say this is progressive doesn't make logical sense to me. But hey, i'm just a registered nurse that also spent a fair amount of time studying this specific subject as well.

[NeoV]

Your medical knowledge is proving to be, to say the least, underwhelming. Saying that when you get cut, you get a scar and eventually it heals, and mentioning that you are a "registered nurse" is simply laughable. And I mean that in a way that is simply looking out for YOU. You will NOT get respect talking like that.

Mentioning how your mom healed from internal scarring says literally nothing of the nature of the injury or how it applies to this in any way. That said, I do appreciate your effort, even if it is not effective, insulting, and generally badly worded.

The tunica cannot regenerate itself once damaged, moreover, once damaged it has a higher change of being damaged more per sexual activity. Also, the penis needs good erections to stay healthy, and it cannot achieve this with scarring as well. Scarring makes the scarred areas (below the scar in the tunica) more inflamed and makes the entire structure more prone to apoxia, fibrosis, and more damage. Organs may be able to heal in their own unique way, but smooth muscle would need stem cells to regenerate. There is an important thing that you are missing here also which is that the penis has to expand massively. Because of this healing is not so simple. We are talking about an expandable structure. I said this already, the tunica is NOT your skin, it is NOT your liver or other organs. There are PLENTY of people, and medical experts that will tell you that scar tissue cannot go away when dealing with muscles. Particularly scarring related to the fascia. Do some research on Dupuytren's, it should be illuminating to you.

If you are not satisfied with my simple explanation, read the studies and present us something convincing. Please do, and I do not mean any sarcasm.

[nemo]

It is fairly hilarious to me, technique, that you make an effort to be condescending in the same breath as you come to the realization of that which we have been telling you from your first post - that Peyronie's is a disorder that defies logic and vexes even the most accomplished research scientists.

If it were as simple as you like to think it should be, seems like we could have licked this one in the last 200 years or so, no?  As soon as you figure this one out, fix cancer and male pattern baldness too - they're just an overgrowth of cells and a hormone problem, respectively. Easy-peasy.  

Nemo

[Old Man]

technique755:

I echo Nemo's comments below. This order called Peyronies Disease can be traced back into the 1700's on two islands in the Mediterranean Sea. They are the Island of Corsica and Sardinia.

The disease was named for the French physician De La Peyronie who spent his life time trying to formulate some sort of therapy or treatment for it.

In addition, doctors and medical specialists have been trying ever since that date hundreds of years ago to find a solution too. So far, there has been no definitive solution to the problem of Peyronies Disease.

So, don't you think that it is about time for you to bite the bullet, admit that you too have no solution??

Old Man

[skunkworks]

Fibrosis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

There are many progressive fibrotic conditions.

As to the progression, comparing a scar on the skin to a scar on the structures of the penis is not really a useful comparison.

But the progression of Peyronie's might even be as simple as the penis bending slightly at the existing bend and causing more injury, possibly too slight for the person to notice when it happened. There are a lot of unknowns about this condition.

Knight, the reaction I assume is because this is not a new direction at all, not out of the box and the delivery was not exactly polite.