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ant

My son had an injury  in 2008 at 22 years old and has since been diagnosed as having Peyronies disease with a 2 degree bend. He also has ED. He has seen four urologists  with some basic knowledge of ED and Peyronies disease and been prescribed Viagra, Ciallis and Levitra, Viagra did not work, Ciallis and levitra 20 mgs worked for several months each and after Ciallis 5mg lately not working well enough to have a proper erection and causing Premature Ejaculation he has tried Levitra 20mgs again recently. This seems to work eratically after a week or two but sometimes he has an erection sometimes not.

Two of the urologists he saw in Australia recommended an operation. One within a year of diagnoses and one after 4 years. One in the UK recommended Ciallis, cream  and to wait to see if recovery happens spontaneously because of his young age. So the two UK ones two did not recommend surgery.

In the last few months his relationship with two girls has finished and he was recently diagnosed with depression related to his condition and possible not helped by this relationship rejection. He is returning to the UK very distraught and I am hoping to get some good advice and information to help  him and to see the best UK specialist in Peyronies and ED.

I have been looking at the Peyronies Society forum online and there are various treatment recommended by members and one specialist Dr Ralph of St Peters Andrology Clinic Harley Street. Being in London and us being in York is a bit inconvenient but could be combined wirth a short weekend break. Also he needs attention with little delay and we would have to pay for this privately I think. He does have BUPA Australia cover and I hope to use this here but I will have to check if its transferable.

I would appreciate any help or advice you could give including any recommended specialist consultants, especially NHS and in the north of England. Anyone else have problems with Levitra or Ciallis not working after several months and how they got around this. Thank you

jackp

ant

First as a old member of this forum it is not necessary to post the same message in several places. One of the moderators I am sure will fix this for you.

The ED pills are not working. Has he tried Carverject? He should be on the VED exercise daily.

At 26 surgery should be his last option, after all else fails. I do know of young men, your sons age, that have had to get a penile implant when all else failed. Sounds radical but if nothing else works what is his option?

I am not real familiar with the NHS but understand you may have to go outside of the NHS for surgery. Hopefully some of the members from the UK will help you with more information.

Jackp
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Luciano

Quote from: ant on April 02, 2012, 06:01:13 AM
and after Ciallis 5mg lately not working well enough to have a proper erection ...
I do not think cialis 5mg will give you proper erections for intercourse. If I understood correctly it should cause mild nightly erections.
If he is trying to have sex, He should take cialis 20 mg

Luc

cowboyfood

Quote from: Luciano on April 03, 2012, 01:46:24 AM
I do not think cialis 5mg will give you proper erections for intercourse. If I understood correctly it should cause mild nightly erections.
If he is trying to have sex, He should take cialis 20 mg

Luc

Luc,

I think the Cialis dosage for proper erections for intercourse varies with each person.  IOW, a doctor should advise on dosage.  20mg is not necessarily needed for a proper erection.  

I take 5mg several times per week as part of my Peyronies Disease treatment.  This dosage gives me very, very firm erections.  In my case, I couldn't imagine taking a 20mg dosage at once, but maybe 10mg.

CF

Currently:  L-Arginine (2g), Vit D3)

Luciano

@cowboy
Correct. same here. its individual.
But I meant if the 5 mg dosage is not sufficient, try the 20mg once.

LWillisjr

Quote from: Luciano on April 03, 2012, 01:58:47 PM
Correct. same here. its individual.
But I meant if the 5 mg dosage is not sufficient, try the 20mg once.


I would try 10 mg before jumping straight to 20mg.
Developed peyronies 2007 - 70 degree dorsal curve
Traction/MEDs/Injections/Surgery 2008 16 years Peyronies free now
My History

Luciano

definetly when using for ED there is also a psychological factor: if YOU think that 10mg is ideal for you and 20 mg to much, go for the 10
It will work better than the 20, because you are persuaded it will. (I think, at least thats how I work in my head, that the psychological factor is in for like 50% with ED)
(when I say YOU i dont mean you personnally, but people in general)
Luc

LWillisjr

Luc that's an interesting point. I've spoken to several men who don't really understand how Viagra or Cialis work. These drugs don't "make" you get an erection. They work more on assisting with preventing your erection from going away. These drugs are all in a class called PDES-5 inhibitors. Bottom line is that you still require the physical and mental stimulation to obtain an erection in the first place.
Developed peyronies 2007 - 70 degree dorsal curve
Traction/MEDs/Injections/Surgery 2008 16 years Peyronies free now
My History

ant

Thank you all for your kind help