Is stretched out flacid your implant size?

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ohnoohno

Hi all been a while since I logged on...

Honestly getting away from anything to do with Peyronies was necessary for me to carry on with my life without it ruining my day to day.

Good news is I believe I'm on the waiting list to get an implant. Will make a full journey post about it.



Today when I was seeing a consultant they pulled my flacid penis out and said this would be the implant size but I've always been a grower not a shower and this didn't really show as much.

The "erection" that I can barely create now is bigger than stretched out flacid.



Curious if others experienced something like this and was able to cycle there way bigger?

Thanks




PS. if anyone has tips to gain as much length as possible in chronic phase (I think) that'd be handy
29 y/o diagnosed 13 Jun 22.

went from a slight 30dg bend at glans to whole thing being deformed/loss of length over a year.

trying to find a way out of this all

Lostand Looking24

My stretched flaccid used to be a lot smaller than my erect length aswell until I started consistenly doing traction with Penimaster Pro and Restorex
23
Symptoms at 22
Diagnosed
Curve to the right that fluctuates between 20-30 degrees and indentation. Indent is exactly where the curve is.

Aussiemale

Hello Ohnoohno......glad to hear you are on the wait list.

I recall you and your in the UK....I'm about to receive my implant next month here is Australia. Yes it is good to have a break from Peyronies Disease.....there is only so much you can do about it.

There are some great YouTuber videos that describe how the length of the implant is decided. In short once the cut into you, they will insert a measurement device inside you, and check the distance distal from the incision.....and then the distal back into your body (proximal).....they add those two measurements together and that is the length of the implant.

If you want to develop a longer penis post implant....I believe only the AMS LGX (length and girth expansion) can offer this. However I am also informed it may not be suitable for Peyronies Disease patients as it has been known to expand in length of the direction of your existing curve......I'm not a urologist and of course just my lay persons knowledge based on my research on consults.

Good luck mate.
50 years of age.
Type one Diabetes 

45 degrees left.
Incision and Graft plus Nesbits.
Curvature returned.
Decreased erection quality.
Implant pending.

Aussiemale

50 years of age.
Type one Diabetes 

45 degrees left.
Incision and Graft plus Nesbits.
Curvature returned.
Decreased erection quality.
Implant pending.

ohnoohno

Quote from: Lostand Looking24 on April 24, 2024, 07:13:49 PMMy stretched flaccid used to be a lot smaller than my erect length aswell until I started consistenly doing traction with Penimaster Pro and Restorex

yes this is my thoughts, my stretched flacid definitely changes and doesn't represent my erect size.

were you satisfied with penimaster pro? I can see I can get one in the country I'm in so worth a shot I guess. I'll have a good 5+ months to try gain some length before implant I guess

29 y/o diagnosed 13 Jun 22.

went from a slight 30dg bend at glans to whole thing being deformed/loss of length over a year.

trying to find a way out of this all

ohnoohno

Quote from: Aussiemale on April 24, 2024, 07:29:54 PMHello Ohnoohno......glad to hear you are on the wait list.

I recall you and your in the UK....I'm about to receive my implant next month here is Australia. Yes it is good to have a break from Peyronies Disease.....there is only so much you can do about it.


Hello mate

Yes I'm from the UK but I live abroad in Mexico right now. I just flew into the UK to see the NHS doctors under Dr Ralph - they were incredibly kind and understanding. Had long in depth conversation about everything and they had a feel on my plaques etc. I feel like I'm in good hands with them basically.

Exactly, I found myself after 1 1/2 year into this mess in a dark place and had to completely detach, in a way better place now but still conquering peyronies. Soon I will defeat the barstad.

Thanks for sending the video, it kind of proves my point too where they're pulling the flacid penis out to begin with, then soon as they pump up the implant its way bigger than the stretched flacid. The lady did reassure me that they'll go as far as they can so maybe it'll be fine. I was very sleep deprived writing the post (jetlag).

They showed me both the amx and titan, was pretty cool to hold them and mess around with them after just reading up about them and seeing them online. Both feel great. Pump seems easy. They were recommending the Titan. Gave me a bunch of leaflets I'm going to go over.

At the end of the day I told them I'm just happy to have some sort of resolution, granted I've lost some length but I have a completely unusable penis right now so it's a blessing to have the support to get an implant regardless. I will now continue to try gain some length back from now until implant and just take it as it comes.
29 y/o diagnosed 13 Jun 22.

went from a slight 30dg bend at glans to whole thing being deformed/loss of length over a year.

trying to find a way out of this all

Lostand Looking24

Quote from: ohnoohno on April 24, 2024, 09:30:41 PMmy stretched flacid definitely changes and doesn't represent my erect size.

For stretched flaccid length yeah, but for curvature improvements its too soon to say, got it last month.

My stretched flaccid fluctuates aswell, but since using PMP it more often than not is as long as my fully erect, if I just finished a PMP session, or a few mm less if I havent done traction yet.
23
Symptoms at 22
Diagnosed
Curve to the right that fluctuates between 20-30 degrees and indentation. Indent is exactly where the curve is.

Aussiemale

Quote from: ohnoohno on April 24, 2024, 09:38:39 PMHello mate

Yes I'm from the UK but I live abroad in Mexico right now. I just flew into the UK to see the NHS doctors under Dr Ralph - they were incredibly kind and understanding. Had long in depth conversation about everything and they had a feel on my plaques etc. I feel like I'm in good hands with them basically.



Hello again.

My take is that the stretched length is a guide only.....they insert a device to check the length later in the video.....in the two directions from the incision....once  towards the distal end ans then the proximal or in the body end.....my urologist told me they can never be sure of the requirements until they do this as everyone's anatomy is different especially inside the body ....

Added together these two measurements give them the required size.

50 years of age.
Type one Diabetes 

45 degrees left.
Incision and Graft plus Nesbits.
Curvature returned.
Decreased erection quality.
Implant pending.

Hawk

There is no doubt that implant size is determined by internal distal and proximal measurements, BUT stretched flaccid BEFORE surgery should be very close to erect length BEFORE surgery.  All that happens during an erection is an internal stretching force applied to the cavernosa.  The length is restricted by the tunica's stretch.  Whether the tunica is stretched by blood, saline, or the tug of traction or the hand, the end result is the same.

Granted, if relaxing cuts are made in the tunica, then it will stretch further, and a post-surgical stretch would be longer. 

The tunica stretch will also gradually get longer from inflation that acts as stretching-traction much like pre-surgical traction with a traction device.
Prostatectomy 2004, radiation 2009, currently 74 yrs old
After pills, injections, VED - Dr Eid, Titan 22cm implant 8/7/18
Hawk - Updated 10/27/18 - Peyronies Society Forums

tomas1

I was fortunate to never having had Peyronies Disease. Hawk suggested that I could possibly help, so I lurk here.
My doctor refused to do a stretch nor even want to know what I thought my size would be.

He was right and was mildly aggressive with sizing and I gained about a CM after surgery.
If you are able, I would recommend using a VED before your surgical date.
86 years old.
Implanted 01/22/19 by Dr Avila.
18cm AMS 700 CX, 3.5cm RTE 100cc reservoir
Diagnosed with Gleason  6 prostate cancer.
Monitoring it for now.

ohnoohno

Thanks all. I'm getting a penimaster pro (plus the weighted set) to try regain some length and life into my todger.

Also @lostandlooking - how much have you gained since using the pmp?
29 y/o diagnosed 13 Jun 22.

went from a slight 30dg bend at glans to whole thing being deformed/loss of length over a year.

trying to find a way out of this all

Lostand Looking24

Quote from: ohnoohno on May 14, 2024, 05:01:20 PMAlso @lostandlooking - how much have you gained since using the pmp?

I dont track length since I haven't lost any, but I've noticed since doing traction I can consistently stretch my flaccid to pretty much the same length as when erect. Before it wasn't that stretchy at all.

Also I personally much prefer the Restorex (more a convenience thing) and only use the PMP every now and then at this point so can't really say. 
23
Symptoms at 22
Diagnosed
Curve to the right that fluctuates between 20-30 degrees and indentation. Indent is exactly where the curve is.