Manual Traction caused Prostatis

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njelbowdrop

Hi All,


Just want to advise against Manual Traction. I found it to be unsafe and I question it's efficacy.

When I started my search for treatments for Peyronies I came across Neoman's traction technique as well as many, many other treatments. Ended up buying the Penimaster Pro and doing about 20 minutes a day of Neoman's technique as well. While on daily 5mg cialis.


I WILL say that I was partially erect when I was doing manual traction, and this is probably the issue. They all say "don't do traction while erect", and boy, can I agree with that! I think because of the cialis I had partial erection and immediately noticed a small pain. I quit.....thinking it was an injury deep inside/prostate area. Pain lasted months and finally got worse and I saw a doctor. I took about 4 weeks of anti-biotics and the pain has basically subsided.


I do PMP for 6-8 hours a day......I did for 2 months straight before this issue and will prob do another 2-3 months. I might try restorex after.
I have a 35 degree curve. The curve is unchanged after traction. I had significant EQ issues before I got peyronies and tried traction. Something happened to me in college and for about 20 years I couldn't get a natural erection without cialis, and now I can. That was a surprising miracle for PMP traction. There might be extra length as well. Not sure.

I just think Manual traction is not worth it. It can be dangerous, and I don't think medical professionals are recommending it. I looked at the TROST Q&A and he doesn't recommend it. He's all about research and it's probably tough to secure any research on it.  
39 years old
 
35 degree curve after quitting Finasteride
Significant ED since college, but no deformity. Starting to believe I've had scar tissue since then.
PMP - 6 hours a day. Curve unchanged but works wonders for ED I have had half my life.

Mikel7

You are not the first to be injured from manual traction and not the last either. How do you even know just how much force you are applying to your penis? I can say that using the PMP is a gentle pulling force that will not hurt you and condition your penis for correcting your curves/lost length. It does take time though and be patient.
Lump 4/2020, age 62 , Dr Levine 6-26-20, Dors Curve 11/2020, Peyronies
Vit E400mg, COQ10, Heat Therapy, Penimaster, Pentox, Cialis, Restorex
SNHL 7/2020 - Stopped all Meds because ototoxicity  Heat/traction/VED are working. CPPS Diagnosis - Stable :)

Jimmothy

You point about manual traction not being safe is fair. I can see how that can cause injury.

But I doubt prostatitis was caused by the actual traction. If antibiotics helped then it was a bacterial infection. Manual traction may have contributed to the transmision of bacteria or you may have caught it from somewhere else.
35 y, diagnosed 6-7 years ago
Had congenital downward curve, now have a ~ 30° bent to the right no longer bending downwards. Twisted while flaccid.
Recently engaged.

njelbowdrop

Mikel -
Yes I agree RE manual traction. Just all around Dangerous.
Also, we don't have any experts or research backing it's use as a method of treating Peyronies. Just a couple guys on this forum.

Jimmothy - I understand your thoughts on The Traction causing Prostatitis. What you say sounds very plausible. All I can tell you is I was doing manual traction, in between PMP sessions and while on Cialis. I noticed a pain one day. Then I developed prostatitis and have been dealing with symptoms, treatment, and now after effects (chronic prostatitis?) since August. I can trace the pain back to that day.
39 years old
 
35 degree curve after quitting Finasteride
Significant ED since college, but no deformity. Starting to believe I've had scar tissue since then.
PMP - 6 hours a day. Curve unchanged but works wonders for ED I have had half my life.

nemo

Just remember the old truism: correlation does not mean causation. Just because two things happen in a sequence does not necessarily mean one caused the other.  It's hard to imagine how pulling on the penis could cause true prostatitis. But having suffered prostatitis off and on since I was a teenager (I'm 52 now) I can certainly sympathize with your situation - it can be quite annoying and uncomfortable.

nemo
51 yrs. old, multiple auto-immune conditions. First episode of Peyronies Disease in 2002. Recurred a couple times since. Over the years I have tried Topical Verapamil, Iontophoresis, all the supps and Cialis + Pentoxifylline. Still functional, always worried.

njelbowdrop

Nemo! Good to hear from you as well. Thank you for your contributions to the forum.


Completely understand your point. Maybe it could have been building up.

Can I ask what are you doing to combat prostatitis? I have it, coming and going like you suggested. I am thinking maybe going back to the dr for more antibiotics? It makes traction for Long periods of time with the PMP significantly more challenging. Other than that, I guess it's not bad. At the moment.  
39 years old
 
35 degree curve after quitting Finasteride
Significant ED since college, but no deformity. Starting to believe I've had scar tissue since then.
PMP - 6 hours a day. Curve unchanged but works wonders for ED I have had half my life.

nemo

I'm not currently doing anything for the prostatitis I've been experiencing for the last couple years - I'm 52 now, and it's not uncommon at my age. But I should get myself to a Urologist to see what's available. My understanding is that Tadalafil is being used to treat benign prostatic hyperplasia (BPH) now, at 5mg daily. So, I may just start Cialis again and see if it helps my BPH symptoms. I'm not anxious for a Uro to try to sell me on their new surgical procedures for BPH, which sound pretty horrific! Will try Cialis first. But as I have said, it's been something I've dealt with for most of my life, coming and going over the years, so I'm not overly concerned about it at the moment. But I understand how annoying it can be, so you have my sympathy.

nemo
51 yrs. old, multiple auto-immune conditions. First episode of Peyronies Disease in 2002. Recurred a couple times since. Over the years I have tried Topical Verapamil, Iontophoresis, all the supps and Cialis + Pentoxifylline. Still functional, always worried.

Jimmothy

There can be an explanation, manual traction requires grabbing and pulling on the glans which may have exposed your urethra to more bacteria.

While people don't wash their hands before peeing, they also don't touch the urethra.  
35 y, diagnosed 6-7 years ago
Had congenital downward curve, now have a ~ 30° bent to the right no longer bending downwards. Twisted while flaccid.
Recently engaged.