PMP question - daily hours vs number of months

[DaneS89]

Hi guys. Does the logic of this check out? If the PMP is worn for 3 hours per day over the course of 6 months (as an example), is it the same as wearing it 6 hours a day for 3 months? Can the user expect the same results (assuming any are to be had). In other words, if the user is prepared to commit to a longer total timeframe of usage (more months) can they afford to do shorter sessions daily (of hours) and not compromise their results. Or does the science of traction with this particular device dicate that continuous time under tension is what bring about the results? Thoughts/advice would be appreciated.

[Mikel7]

Your calculations seem logical but in real life things can be different. The PMP is a more gentle traction and the success of it is because of the time worn each day. It is suggested to wear it for 6 to 8 hours each day. Now this can be divided up like 4 hours in the AM and 4 hours in the PM. That is in a 24 hour period. I don't think that just 3 hours a day is going to give you much improvement.

[DaneS89]

Yeah thats a fair call. The main study that supports the usage of this device and its benefits is based on 3 months of intensive usage to acheive the best results. But a thought entered my mind that perhaps the manufacturer assumes that users of this device would not want to commit to a longer timeframe than that, and hence prescribe a more intensive regime.

I dunno, it's discouraging if in fact those longer times are required to see benefits. Realistically, I just don't think I can do it. The PMP is more comfortable than other traction devices I have tried but I'm super concerned about circulation/glans coldness and numbness. I already struggle with that as an issue and don't want to make things worse. I'm thinking maybe VED could actually be the best form of therapy for me.

[Mikel7]

My glans at different times did get cold but it never did any permanent damage. When I use it now I know it keeps things stretched out and does help. I am sure you are just overthinking things and letting worry govern your thoughts. It may very well benefit you and there are probably times throughout your day that you can commit the time - with it split up even.

[DaneS89]

Oh yeah, it's not an issue of time available. I could make the time for it. It's a time-under-traction issue and how much of it I can tolerate, physically and/or psychologically. I read with great interest your post about modifying the PMP with store-bought balloons. I amwondering if this could be a fix for me. Did you use the balloon mod for a long time and have results with it? Did the stretch feel the same. Did you mod the device with the balloons to make it more roomy and a better fit for you? That's my concern with the PMP and why I hesitate to use it for long periods of time. It's too tight around my head and the sluice looks like its strangulating my shaft below the head. It looks crazy when I've got the device on. Like, really narrow under the sluice compared to the rest of the shaft. I'm not sure if the diaphram is too tight as well, but my head comes out of it looking a bit mishapen...squat...and it stays that way for a day or two. Hence my concern with blood flow and why I think VED might be better for me. There's no restriction of blood flow with VED is there? Its about drawing blood into the penis yeah?  

[Mikel7]

Your concerns are valid but with using the device you will gain an understanding just how it will work for you. Through testing I discovered that the large punching balloons that you can purchase at a party store work perfectly -->Punching Balloons . I cut off the neck of the balloon and use that around the sluice ring. I then gently stretch a piece of the remaining balloon over the glans chamber and fasten with a rubber band. You need to keep it a little stretched which takes practice. I then use Astoglide Silicone Gel for the lubricating gel for your glans. All in all it works exactly like their stuff they sell you at a fraction of the price. The latex does need to be replaced about 1 time a week though.

Yes you need to have a seal around the underpart of where your glans fits inside of the chamber. If you don't then you will loose the suction/seal of your glans in the chamber. It is also alarming when you see your glans with a bend or scrunched up appearance but I assure you that it will go back to normal. This is caused from you not aligning and getting your glans all the way into the chamber. With practice things will go like clockwork. I can put on the device within about 45 seconds with no problem now. Make sure you are lubing up your glans also before putting on the chamber . I assure you it does provide a gentle traction and with repeated usage does work.  

[DaneS89]

Thanks Mike. That is actually really helpful, and encouraging. Enough that I went to my storage box where I keep the PMP and dusted it off to try again. I don't want to get too excited just yet, but WOW, what a difference switching a few things up makes! I discovered in the box that I had two blue sluices and diaphrams left. I fit them to the chamber and it's just sooo much more comfortable and easy now. Not just tolerable but actually pleasant. So that was the first major difference.

But another important change I made was based on something you said in the mod post about pulling force. You are very conservative and cautious pulling at only 300-400 grams, but again, this made such a difference. I think I could easily sustain that for hours and not have to worry about AE's or limiting blood flow. My glans actually came out of it looking nice and pink.

I was going too hard and too fast (and using the wrong parts) before when I first tried the device. That why I didn't get on with it. I was totally mislead and derailed by the advice of a reviewer on youtube who uses the device strictly for lengthening. He said that unless only one bar or less is showing then its not doing anything and a waste of time. He probably wasted my time with that rubbish advice because thats what I went with and abandoned the device when it likely could have helped me.

Now I'm in a bit of a frenzied rush to find backup blue sluices and diaphrams so I can continue without worry that I'll have to stop again. They no longer make the blue parts but I think I found a reseller that still has them. Getting them custom made I also considered? The balloon hack you came up with is always there too if it comes to that, but the blues are such a perfect and comfy fit for me I really hope I can source more of them *fingers crossed*. Thanks again!    

[Mikel7]

That's great that you gave it another try! It is an awesome device and yes it provides gentle traction but nonetheless traction. It took me about a total of 4 to 5 weeks of switching this sluice back and forth and reducing tension and then cutting a piece of foam rubber  because the base was hurting my pubic bone area. It will all become like clockwork for you. I am not aware of them discontinuing the blue parts of the device. I know that when I used their latex parts they lasted me about 2 weeks of daily usage. You may have to experiment with the latex balloon mods.  

[DaneS89]

It is indeed a great device. Gentle on the glans is the key aspect for me. Thats why I bought it and was excited to use it the first time around. I so wanted it to work. It was just with those yellow parts a bit too tight. Now with the blues I'm confident I can make it work. So happy to just be doing something finally about my peyronies instead of just taking meds and supplements.

I have had a look online for latex balloons of various sizes and it seems that there are enough different sizes for me to experiment with and find a good fit. Is there a particular reason you used punching balloons for the sluice part, apart from size? Like, was the thicker material important? With regards to the addition of rubber padding, yep, I'm gonna have to do the same if I'm going to be with this device for 6+ hours everyday for months. I'm quite slender with hardly any fat in that area for cushioning so yeah, will assist further with comfort.

[Mikel7]

I am also considered very slender with little body fat so I needed a little padding because of the pubic bone discomfort. I opted for the punching balloons because they were readily available and the thickness seemed to last a little longer than just regular latex balloons. I tried a lot of different sizes before arriving at using the punching balloons. They are inexpensive also.  

[DaneS89]

Thanks mate, this was productive chat. I really appreciate you taking the time to guide and advise me. It could make all the difference in the long run if I continue with traction as opposed to doing nothing, which was more or less what I was going to do before. Cheers.