How do you counterbend with the longer extension rods?

[SG8]

Does anyone have any experience with counter bending using the longer extension rods? I'm 6 5/8" flaccid length, so I had to put the longer rod in, but the ends get in the way when you try to adjust the angle.

Any advice? Just got it in the mail yesterday, so I could use some insight. The quick start video doesn't seem to offer any info.  

[nevertheless]

I've been struggling with this too. A few things I've learned:

1)) If you move the head clamp forward, it might let you use the shorter rods still. Might not be great for your curve though, depending where that happens on your shaft.

2) Give it a few days. My stretch length has gotten longer in the week I've been using it and I can bend back with longer rods now. But slowly. I start off just in position 1, 5/7 minutes later to position2, then try for position 3/90 degrees for a few minutes at the end.
3) buy the make up pads discussed here if you haven't. Looks like you're in CA but if you can get these, they work great. I put one of the loops over each head clamp side and then a third without a strap between one of the looped one and head clamp on the top side of my penis since it's more sensitive with the glans there (my curve is down so I counterbend up). See photo attached. When I do a bend, I also put one between my penis and the bend. Waaaaay better than the tape for me.

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4) you can buy a second base for pretty cheap, apparently. Then just unclamp between straight and bend time and quick swap the bases. I'm gonna hold off to see if I gain more length since it might not be needed.

I will say, I'm pretty insecure about my girth and think it's on the small side. Some of these things may not work well with you if you're thicker.

Best of luck! keep us updated with any results or questions.  

[SG8]

Thanks for the response. Haven't been able to get my hands on the makeup pads, but have just been using a piece of tissue folded over, then wrapped with tape. Significantly reduces the friction from the tape (it's absolutely awful!), and with the head clamp on the third notch, no slipping. It definitely takes some getting use to, having the glans that snug.

Re the counterbend, I have found success when using the longer rods, by Stretching straight, advancing up to the second notch on the rods, then when I'm switching to counter bending, I reverse the spring, go back one step on the rods, counter bend and then slowly release the spring to stretch. So 2nd notch on the rods straight, 1st notch on the rods for counter bend. So far seems to be working.  

[nevertheless]

So 2nd notch on the rods straight, 1st notch on the rods for counter bend. So far seems to be working.  

Don't the rods poke your penis? That was my issue bending on first notch. If I use makeup pad it helps and I don't really feel it. I usually just do it on 60 degrees on 2nd notch which is easy enough for me to get to. I can get it to 90 degrees most the time for last few minutes.  

[nevertheless]

But straight, I'm on 4th notch usually. Can get to 5th and sometimes 6th with tension rods mostly buried. Just go with what feels right at the time.  

[SG8]

Don't the rods poke your penis? That was my issue bending on first notch. If I use makeup pad it helps and I don't really feel it. I usually just do it on 60 degrees on 2nd notch which is easy enough for me to get to. I can get it to 90 degrees most the time for last few minutes.

If I retract the extension rods all the way, yes, they jab badly and it's impossible. But the first notch up gives just enough clearance to bend on the first and second positions. Haven't gone further yet as I'm only a few days in.  

[IwillbeatPD]

Like everyone else said, I extend the rods until they aren't sticking out of the top, then I clamp the head of my penis. Then I counterbend, and lastly let the spring part loose so there is more tension. A couple times my dick got stuck like you prob experienced and I freaked out lol.

[Mikel7]

Like everyone else said, I extend the rods until they aren't sticking out of the top, then I clamp the head of my penis. Then I counterbend,.....

This is exactly how I also do this which is about 2 clicks on the longer rods. In the beginning I first ordered another base ring and screwed the shorter rods onto it but when I counter bended it wasn't long enough for a good stretch.  

[nevertheless]

Why do you guys clamp the head after extending the rods and not before?

[nevertheless]

but when I counter bended it wasn't long enough for a good stretch.

Is it odd that my straight stretch is on notch 4-6 on the extended rods but my counterbend barely works at notch 2 with the tension rods almost completely buried?  

[IwillbeatPD]

Why do you guys clamp the head after extending the rods and not before?

You have to do this otherwise your dick gets stuck in the rods. To be more clear, you only have to extend it a couple clicks where the rods aren't sticking out. Then clamp your head, THEN extend the rest of the way, then counter end, and lastly then apply the spring pressure to stretch.

[nevertheless]

I guess I'm confused how the rods are in the way before bending?

It doesn't matter, I'm just curious and trying to make sure I'm not doing it incorrectly. Is it different because I have a downward curve?

[IwillbeatPD]

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I guess I'm confused how the rods are in the way before bending?

It doesn't matter, I'm just curious and trying to make sure I'm not doing it incorrectly. Is it different because I have a downward curve?

So in this photo, you have the springs compressed and it looks like you have it positioned at the bottom. I am suggesting to extend it enough so you can no longer see the rods sticking out of the top. THEN, put your dick in, clamp the head. From here, do the counterbend. After that, extend more if you can, or if it's already the desired tension, move to the last step of releasing the spring part that keeps the tension on.

Lemme know if that doesn't make sense

[nevertheless]

I guess I just don't see the point - rods aren't in the way. Just tried it and it works, but harder to get my head comfortable and perfectly positioned.

But from your stats, your erect length is like 1.5" longer than my stretched, so maybe that explains the difference?  

[IwillbeatPD]

I guess I just don't see the point - rods aren't in the way. Just tried it and it works, but harder to get my head comfortable and perfectly positioned.

But from your stats, your erect length is like 1.5" longer than my stretched, so maybe that explains the difference?

I wouldn't even worry about anything I'm say if the rods aren't in your way. If it's just a matter of clamping the head, the make up pads make a world of difference. Without that I can't imagine how annoyed I'd be everyday lol.

[beaulieu1008]

I clamp the head first in shortest position. Put some gaze in between to make the penis move more easily along the plastics. Then slide it up until the rods are hidden. And then bent. In two stages. With a minute or two in between to get a gradual stretch. Works for me. That is the bending part. Hopefully it works out well after three months.

 

[boston]

I have this same issue.  

I absolutely need the longer rods for a straight stretch, but they get in the way for the bend position.  Like others, I need to extend the device along those rods until they no longer project out of the frame so they don't block a downward pivot, but then things are so extended, getting to position 3 is very difficult and 4 seemingly impossible.  

Granted, I've just started using the device, so I acknowledge I need to give it some time, but it does seem like the short rods would be much better for the bend.  Sadly, I cannot justify two devices and it's completely impractical to switch the rods constantly.  Would be great if there was a medium-length set.

[JR678]

In my experience, the rods won't work. Neither will VED or drugs. If you research the physical issue, it's not something that can be rectified by bending in the opposite direction. Surgery is the only way to straighten out. However, even surgery does not get rid of the indents. You need to consult a specialist.

I had a 30° bend. I tried everything. Finally, I stopped resisting and surrendered to the idea of surgery. I started to do my research. I found a surgeon in my local area, Toronto, and I made an appt to see him. He fit me in three weeks later. Of course, surgery is not fun. The healing process was a bitch. But like everything else, including life, it's over in a blink of an eye. A year later, I still have the indents, but I'm straight and pointing up. I have a regime where I keep it pointing up at night when I sleep with something I found online, not those super uncomfortable rods! That regime helped tremendously with the healing process.

My advice is to start putting in effort to find a surgeon in your area. Don't resist surgery, its the fastest way to get straight and in my experience its the only thing that works.    

[nevertheless]

I have this same issue.  

Not sure how long you've been doing it, but after a few weeks, it solved itself for me and I can bend with long rods since then. Just took time to stretch and such. But you can order a different top piece for cheaper than full device and swap between straight and bent time.  

Also, disagree greatly with last post. I have seen tremendous growth and curve lessening from RestoreX and Cialis. It has made my symptoms basically go away besides slight curve. But not accompanied by any pain or discomfort, so HUGE win. Won't work for everyone, but not need to make sweeping conclusions and just say go right to surgery imo.  

[boston]

In my experience, the rods won't work. Neither will VED or drugs. If you research the physical issue, it's not something that can be rectified by bending in the opposite direction. Surgery is the only way to straighten out. However, even surgery does not get rid of the indents. You need to consult a specialist.

I had a 30° bend. I tried everything. Finally, I stopped resisting and surrendered to the idea of surgery. I started to do my research. I found a surgeon in my local area, Toronto, and I made an appt to see him. He fit me in three weeks later. Of course, surgery is not fun. The healing process was a bitch. But like everything else, including life, it's over in a blink of an eye. A year later, I still have the indents, but I'm straight and pointing up. I have a regime where I keep it pointing up at night when I sleep with something I found online, not those super uncomfortable rods! That regime helped tremendously with the healing process.

My advice is to start putting in effort to find a surgeon in your area. Don't resist surgery, its the fastest way to get straight and in my experience its the only thing that works.  

I appreciate your perspective, but I'd like to try alternatives to surgery before doing something that drastic. At home traction is the first step, but I'm also considering flying to Utah for injections in the New Year.  That will be a significant expense, but I have yet to find a urologist in my area who seems to be as focused and expert in the condition

[boston]

Not sure how long you've been doing it, but after a few weeks, it solved itself for me and I can bend with long rods since then. Just took time to stretch and such. But you can order a different top piece for cheaper than full device and swap between straight and bent time.  

Also, disagree greatly with last post. I have seen tremendous growth and curve lessening from RestoreX and Cialis. It has made my symptoms basically go away besides slight curve. But not accompanied by any pain or discomfort, so HUGE win. Won't work for everyone, but not need to make sweeping conclusions and just say go right to surgery imo.

Thanks. That's really encouraging.

[nevertheless]

I have a journal in here if you want to take a look!

[boston]

FYI, while I was able to make the longer rods work, it's more difficult given you have to have the device fairly extended to initiate the pivot/rotation.  I found an alternate solution - I purchased a second pelvic ring, which comes with two screws.  I was then able to mount the two shorter rods to it and just swap bases for the bent phase of traction.  So much better.

I'm not sure I'm allowed to post a link to their site, but it's available on their site for $30, plus shipping.

[Mikel7]

This is what will solve the problem.