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Rince

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Li-ESWT - your opinion is very welcome
« on: February 13, 2022, 12:48:17 PM »

As I have already written in my imagination, I am now faced with the decision of whether to have a ESWT performed or not.
I feel torn, on the one hand it costs me 250€ (~280$) per session and I would have to travel 600km totally each time. Then there aren't really many reports of successful treatment, at least not as far as bending the penis, pain relief isn't my concern.

But then there is hope for the doctor who is treating me, who really is a specialist in peyronie disease. He also does a lot of research in this area and has published this study, among other things, for me as an absolute layman it at least sounds like there is hope (~50% that there is an improvement in bending).

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2050052120300317?via%3Dihub

Long story short, I don't know what to do :(

As English is not my mother tongue and it is difficult to fully understand the study, I would like to know your opinion, would you give it a try?
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50 years, Peyoronie since July 2021, left 20 degree/dorsal 40 degree, sandglas - Tadalafil 5mg, Osbon ErecAid, PMP
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Re: Li-ESWT - your opinion is very welcome
« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2022, 12:03:02 AM »

what doctor is it? Where would you have to travel to? Have you tried anything else yet like pentox, cialis, l-arginine, or VED? Private message me
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Re: Li-ESWT - your opinion is very welcome
« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2022, 06:28:45 AM »

In my opinion I would say that you are wasting your money. You should look into VED therapy and possibly traction. Restorex has helped improve curvatures and has been tested. Supplements can also be a benefit also. I hate to see anyone waste their hard earned money on something that is so controversial .
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Lump April 2020, age 61 , Dr Levine 6-26-20,
Dorsal Curve 11-1-20 , Peyronies
Vit E400mg, COQ10, ALCAR, Heat Therapy, Penimaster, Pentox, Cialis, Restorex
had SNHL 7-31-20 - Stopped all Meds because ototoxicity  Heat/traction/VED are working.

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Re: Li-ESWT - your opinion is very welcome
« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2022, 10:50:09 AM »

I already use the Osbon for VED and PMP for traction. Unfortunately, RestoreX is not readily available here in Europe.
In his reports, Dr. Porst speaks of improvements "only" in 47% of the patients.
I'll wait a little longer and if the situation continues to deteriorate, I might try.
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Re: Li-ESWT - your opinion is very welcome
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2022, 06:16:14 AM »

I already use the Osbon for VED and PMP for traction. Unfortunately, RestoreX is not readily available here in Europe.
In his reports, Dr. Porst speaks of improvements "only" in 47% of the patients.
I'll wait a little longer and if the situation continues to deteriorate, I might try.

Would be nice to read about your experiences, once you startet the ESWT. There are some doctors, that charge a bit less money. The cheapest offer was about 160€, usually it's about 200€ per session. Among german urologists Prof. Porst is generally being said to have gathered the most expertise, since he has been using a large number of different devices for a long time now. He definetly knows how to work together with manufactures and pharma industry. Nethertheless, I'd recommend to be cautious, even with him. I personally made both, good and bad experiences - however I have not tried ESWT yet.
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