Instant worsening after PMP

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Donka

Hi everyone, this is my first proper post after my introduction thread.  I'm really struggling to understand why the PMP appears to be having this effect on me.

After my initial settling down stage, I wanted to try VED and traction as a way to straighten the left curve at least and strengthen my narrowing.  About 3 months after the onset of symptoms I started really easy with both and found that in about 6 weeks of use and gradually lengthening my sessions with the PMP, nothing was improving or deteriorating either.  My curve was the same and a slight niggling of discomfort from the curve was still there.

We went away then for just over two weeks and I had total rest and to my surprise, things improved quite significantly.  Less pain and a definite reduction in both curvatures and slightly fuller.  I got back to my regime on return and unfortunately found that within the week everything had worsened back to where I was.  From there I basically took 2 months off.  Simply looking after my diet, rest and heat.  By the start of this week things felt to be improving again back to where I had been in the summer.  I thought this would be a good time to try again with VED and PMP but throttling back to barely stretching/pumping.  The absolute minimum.  I started with VED.  I have a bathmate so single cylinder but otherwise followed the protocol entirely, and literally only pumping till erect.  Everything seems fine up till this point.

I tried the PMP again yesterday.  I only have the belt but did 2x 1 hour sessions and didn't even stretch things in the slightest.  With VED afterwards as recommended, everything was looking very positive.  Possibly the straightest I've ever looked since the onset of symptoms.  Then today, I'm literally gutted.  Everything back to as bad as ever before.  I also have a small surface blood blister on the opposite side of my left curve but from other threads I believe these are insignificant and occasional after effects of VED.  I certainly don't feel I've gone even close to overpumping.

I'm using the blue sluice and diaphrams on the PMP as I don't want to pinch anything and ironically injure myself.  My narrowing is immediately behind the glans though.  I've read some very positive things about these treatments from others, and whilst I know everyone is different and these things just might not be for me.  But what could possibly be aggrevating things so dramatically?  Obviously I am going to return to not using either again for now and back to the rest/heat therapy, but once they get me so far I'm desperate to recover any lost size but just don't see how I will be able to if these treatments are off the table for me.

My thoughts are wondering whether this means that I'm still very much in the acute stages and my injuries are just such that they are easily aggrevated.  Would that mean that in 6-12 months time when I have definitely reached the chronic stage that I may be able to resume these treatments?  My only other thinking is that due to the proximity of the PMP attaching to where I'm most affected is what is causing this, and that the stretching itself has nothing to do with it.  Part of me wants to try the smaller sluice and diaphram again but I really found them uncomfortable at the start.  Just wondering if the suction with the larger diaphram is pulling too much blood to the glans and preventing adequate circulation down the rest of the old fella.

Does anyone have any ideas at all please?  I am just so frightened of making things much worse, and having had two setbacks now I'm feeling pretty low.  
Age: 40s
First Symptoms: Mar 21
Hourglass/dent left side just behind glans
Bend/curve 20 deg left & 50 deg dorsal hinging
Married
Fertility multivitamin, magnesium, VED, traction, castor/arnica/VitE oils, heat, kegels & dietary/exercise changes

Mikel7

I would say that the PMP was at a point preventing things from worsening. You are probably sill in the acute stage and preventing things from worsening is the game plan. You really need the rod system that goes with the device. This will give you accurate pulling forces that you can see. You can experiment with the sluice colors.  When I used the blue one it tended to slip sometimes. I now only use my latex mods for the consumable parts - search the forum. My deformity was also right under the glans area. With gentle traction, VED therapy and heat, things have improved for me. I have also used the Restorex for counter bending and it also helps.  This has been about 1 year now with all of this. You can have setbacks but don't let this be an opportunity to quit.  :)  Mikel7
Lump 4/2020, age 62 , Dr Levine 6-26-20, Dors Curve 11/2020, Peyronies
Vit E400mg, COQ10, Heat Therapy, Penimaster, Pentox, Cialis, Restorex
SNHL 7/2020 - Stopped all Meds because ototoxicity  Heat/traction/VED are working. CPPS Diagnosis - Stable :)

Donka

Thanks Mikel7, I've read a lot of your posts about the PMP and your mods.  Your progress was one of the reasons I was so confused, and a little frustrated with myself if I'm honest.  I know that to give it a fair crack I have to get the rods, but sourcing them without paying another small fortune for the whole kit again is proving more difficult than I expected.  I think the key could be to keep things straight with the PMP, which the belt doesn't do.  It applies stretching in differing places depending on how you wear it.  Presumably the idea with the rod system is that as you are applying equal pressure, then the remaining good tissue on the inside of the curve is what gets the slightly more intense stretch, and the plaque in theory is gradually displaced, broken down, replaced etc (hopefully).

I've been doing a bit of thinking and I just wonder if I'm on the right track with this thought.  What I am observing may actually be the initial progress and benefits of traction and VED, but presenting as a deterioration?  Were I not affected by peyronies and just doing this for PE, what I am probably observing are the erection improvements from these methods, but the biggest differences are applying to the more pliable, healthy tissue on my unaffected side.  This in turn increases the curve, and with that comes the additional discomfort.  Does this sounds plausible or am I talking garbage?  Then as I cease the regime, my right side starts to lose the early improvements and my symptoms appear to improve as the right side of my penis doesn't reach full potential anymore.

I would like to try the RestoreX too, but again, sourcing in the UK not the easiest.  I think I've resigned myself, if I'm right with the above, then the bathmate is not the right device for this.  Allowing the full extent of the curve when erect as it does instead of having any kind of straightening effect.  I think I will try the SOMACorrect in the new year.  Might try e-mailing iMEDicare again about the rods for the PMP.  They didn't answer my first e-mail enquiring about sourcing them.

Age: 40s
First Symptoms: Mar 21
Hourglass/dent left side just behind glans
Bend/curve 20 deg left & 50 deg dorsal hinging
Married
Fertility multivitamin, magnesium, VED, traction, castor/arnica/VitE oils, heat, kegels & dietary/exercise changes

Mikel7

If you could somehow just get your hands on the rod system only with the cradle then you might see some slow and steady improvement. Sorry about not being  able to get things in the UK .
Lump 4/2020, age 62 , Dr Levine 6-26-20, Dors Curve 11/2020, Peyronies
Vit E400mg, COQ10, Heat Therapy, Penimaster, Pentox, Cialis, Restorex
SNHL 7/2020 - Stopped all Meds because ototoxicity  Heat/traction/VED are working. CPPS Diagnosis - Stable :)

Donka

I've decided to buy the SOMA for VED from iMedicare here in the UK and they can provide the rod system.

I should be kitted out with what I need sometime next week and will then start the slow and steady build-up.
Age: 40s
First Symptoms: Mar 21
Hourglass/dent left side just behind glans
Bend/curve 20 deg left & 50 deg dorsal hinging
Married
Fertility multivitamin, magnesium, VED, traction, castor/arnica/VitE oils, heat, kegels & dietary/exercise changes