Venous leak from VED?

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Sanabo

Dr Trost thinks VED might cause venous leak. I would like to try VED because I am not getting good NTE but him stating this (to me over the phone) naturally makes me want to stay away. But so many people on here use and seem to benefit.

Thoughts?
42, acute, began 2/21
30 degree curve left, 15 up, bottleneck
Carnitine, CoQ10, arginine, 5 mg Cialis, pentox
Moderate Erectile Dysfunction, getting worse

SkySun

Hey buddy,

That is a really interesting insight. I have venous leak symptoms and my doctor (Dr Raheem, London) recommended Cialis and VED to help the penis heal from the injury that cause it 5 months ago.

Would be interesting to see what anyone else has to say about this.
26 yo, UK
Mild sex injury Feb'21 - penis forced to bend down at the base, mild pain.
Since then: torsion, curve at the base (30º sideways), mild Erectile Dysfunction (difficulty maintaining erection).
Dr Amr Raheem prescribed 2.5mg Cialis, VED, Shockwave.

Jack1909

31 yrs old
Severe congenital curvature. 3 straightening surgeries
Big lump/stitch w/ left deviation after 2012 surgery
Severe Erectile Dysfunction after last one in 2014. Still crooked
Slightly improved w/ shockwave therapy
Looks like only one side of my penis works

SkySun

Jack1909, what do you mean? Not sure I understood your point. Which doctor?
26 yo, UK
Mild sex injury Feb'21 - penis forced to bend down at the base, mild pain.
Since then: torsion, curve at the base (30º sideways), mild Erectile Dysfunction (difficulty maintaining erection).
Dr Amr Raheem prescribed 2.5mg Cialis, VED, Shockwave.

porterrobinson

i think dr trost talks many things and never backs it up. for example he talked about how they have used xiaflex on congential curve with no source, how traction with restorex is so vastly superior but people here have not reported this at all. how would ved cause venous leak if you dont overpump? in my opinion he sounds like a quack
single, mid 20
diagnosed early 2020
indentation 20 degree bent to left, recurrence with new indentation below glans
tried vacuum device with no success

Hawk

Dr. Trost is ANYTHING but a quack. He is a thinking, sharing individual committed to helping people.  He is extremely service-oriented and talks to many men who are not now and will never be his patients.  Because a doctor thinks something might have a result shows a doctor who is thinking.   A leading Peyronies Disease doctor told me that VED draws unoxygenated blood into the penis through the veins because the arteries are not dilated.  If that were true (and I have doubts), it means blood is drawn in backward against the venous valves.  That would have the potential to damage the valves, and it has nothing to do with how full you pump but rather the rate you pump and how forceful the blood flow into the penis is.

Without extensive studies, everyone can think what they think but there is no way to be certain of the answer.  It is a reason to pump VERY slow to obtain an erection.
Prostatectomy 2004, radiation 2009, currently 70 yrs old
After pills, injections, VED - Dr Eid, Titan 22cm implant 8/7/18
[url=http://www.peyroniesforum.net/index.php/topic,872.0.html]Hawk - Updated 10/27/18 - Peyronies Society Forums[/url]

Sanabo

I agree with Hawk. He has been very kind and attentive to me. I trust his experience and dedication. Peyronies is his main focus. Restorex has data to back it up.  He didn't say to me VED causes venous leak with certainty, he said it might.  So that's why I asked.

If it is helpful for guys and they've been safely doing it awhile with no ill effects then that's great and evidence that it won't cause the leak for everyone. I just want to be cautious.

Has anyone been doing VED a long time and seen nothing but improvement?
42, acute, began 2/21
30 degree curve left, 15 up, bottleneck
Carnitine, CoQ10, arginine, 5 mg Cialis, pentox
Moderate Erectile Dysfunction, getting worse

porterrobinson

its just so confusing to me. my doctor said VED can basically not damage the penis and that venous leak IS A MYTH. i wanted to call hik ojt on it but hr cut me short. he said venous leak has never been proven in a scientific study. i told him about people at specialists actually getting diagnosed with venous leak and what the doppler US would be for if not for diagnosis of vascular Erectile Dysfunction. he did not answer these questions properly. i inquiried about veno occlusive disorder as opposite to venous leak vut again no coherent answer. this was just last week and it has been a frustrating experience for me. he suggested to just use the VED and cone bsck in 6 months even though i have seen zero progress with it over the kast 6 months. and now i am afraid of even using it. what hawk said makes total sense. my dr is a quack vut that is almost for certain

new deformity, new Erectile Dysfunction, 60 minute wait even tho i had an appointment and then 4 minute talk with the Dr and a 30 sec palpation, no US, no answering of my burning questions. if it wasnt the 4th one anyway id see a different doctor vut at this point there is just no point in mokey continent Europe
single, mid 20
diagnosed early 2020
indentation 20 degree bent to left, recurrence with new indentation below glans
tried vacuum device with no success

Sanabo

I'm not opposed to it and most guys seem to be doing it. I wouldn't mind rehabbing my penis with solid erections too.  I'd like to start but hearing that from him have me pause. 

Maybe it is fine as long as one is very careful and conservative?
42, acute, began 2/21
30 degree curve left, 15 up, bottleneck
Carnitine, CoQ10, arginine, 5 mg Cialis, pentox
Moderate Erectile Dysfunction, getting worse