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peter123

I have an indentation on the left side circular but the plaque is dorsal and some of it actually in the septum. on the sides where the indentation is there is none. how does something that sits dorsally cause a reduction of girth on the sides? I expected plaque to be on the side too
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TonySa

There can be additional plaque than you are aware or can feel.
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NeoV

It's "fibrosis," which is basically unhealthy tissue with higher collagen to healthy cell ratio, this and trapped blood (hematoma) or poor blood flow due to poor cell health. Sometimes you can get such dents diagnosed as corporal fibrosis.
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peter123

so I talked to an actual androglosist and I think you are all a little misinformed. or he is. the indentation doesn't need to be plaque in itself. it could be a tiny plaque dorsally but due to the enormous pressure in the tunica during an erection, it causes this indentation. for example where my indentation is there is nothing to be palpated, nothing to be seen in ultra sound at all. there is only a tiny plaque right near the septum nd inside the septum despite there being an indentation on the left. I was surprised at the "extent" of scar tissue I have which is very very minor but if you look at the indentation it must be massive, 3cm*0.5cm. but its onlx a few mm. this wasn't some doofus either he was the one doing the main clinical trial for xiaflex in Germany so he must know where plaque is and what it is because he's been injecting into it many times. the ring that I can "feel" is supposedly vascular tissue
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TonySa

So these cords or rings are normal vascularization and you don't have Peyronies Disease?
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Pump failed.  2/11/20 Dr Karpman installed Titan 22cm +1cm RTE.

peter123

Quote from: TonySa on October 09, 2020, 04:30:05 PM
So these cords or rings are normal vascularization and you don't have Peyronies Disease?

no i do hace Peyronies but the cords aren't plaque, the plaque is in the septum and dorsally
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this_day

Peter, can you clean your inbox please?  Need to PM you

peter123

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projectpd

It's what i thought, i have them too but i can feel the hard plaques further up and centrally but don't know if the veins appeared post peyronies
Age 57, Onset 2010, 2" shortening, shrinking and angulation of glans, weaker erections, 30 degree bend. Mild pain few months, but far from worst symptom. Tried many ideas, not just from here, but not consistently. Moderate improvement, maybe 40%

peter123

the worst about those indentations is the pain and instability associated with them. like when ibmasturbate, wnd there is friction over the indented area, there is insane amounts ofnpain involved. my peyronies pain does not come from inflammation, it comes  from the constriction of the indentation. im afraid this will never go away and with the associated instability i cant have sex on my back aymore as there it is the worst
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AlterEgo

Quote from: peter123 on October 16, 2020, 06:20:17 AM
the worst about those indentations is the pain and instability associated with them. like when ibmasturbate, wnd there is friction over the indented area, there is insane amounts ofnpain involved. my peyronies pain does not come from inflammation, it comes  from the constriction of the indentation. im afraid this will never go away and with the associated instability i cant have sex on my back aymore as there it is the worst
I am experiencing similar issue.  Did you see some guys got rid of their dents by fasting have you tried it?
42 male
main symptoms are hollow feeling shaft
scar tissue on corporas shown on ultrasound
Loss of girth, weak flaccid skin sensitive

peter123

impossible to get rid of this by fasting i think
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Sayedd087

I totally agree with peter about intendation theory .I have it but nothing show up in US because ther is no plaque and fibrosis, but the intendation worsening your pyronie escape on the size .. nightmare
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Bud luck

My dent was caused by a trauma, the area of my dent it feels like really soft penis tissue, is weaker than the rest of the penis tissue. The Restorex it made it worse, I need low tension vs high tension.
My first symptoms started early in 2019
I tried Traction device, Pentofixiline, Q10, TRT, L-Argenine, cialis
I have narrowing/dent/hinge on the left side of my shaft
My Erectile Dysfunction is getting worse
Had a PRP shot Aug 2021
I have a girlfriend
Age 46

Sayedd087

I think of trying traction devices such as penimaster pro or restore x but I read that many men make their disease worse , also taking any injection like PRP shots or verapamil is more dangerous ,
The Doctor told me that penis tissue is very complicated
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Bud luck

The PRP made it worse, the first two weeks after the shot my erections were better, but now my penis is even thinnier and my dent is more pronounce. Basically every single "therapy" for Peroynes made it worse
My first symptoms started early in 2019
I tried Traction device, Pentofixiline, Q10, TRT, L-Argenine, cialis
I have narrowing/dent/hinge on the left side of my shaft
My Erectile Dysfunction is getting worse
Had a PRP shot Aug 2021
I have a girlfriend
Age 46

projectpd

Is there a nodule / harder area/ridge etc. corresponding to where the indent is, or was there originally a trauma location corresponding. That would make sense to explain indentation.
Age 57, Onset 2010, 2" shortening, shrinking and angulation of glans, weaker erections, 30 degree bend. Mild pain few months, but far from worst symptom. Tried many ideas, not just from here, but not consistently. Moderate improvement, maybe 40%

jj21

I had an issue identical to yours. Dent on right side base.. It was getting much better with VED usage and the pain and instablility was also getting much better.

Only problem was once when I overpumped - the most damage went to that area and now i'm at a worse stage than I was before.

So note - can get better with VED BUT be careful not to overpump and be cautious!!!!
33 yrs old
Peyronies for 4 years now
Got better but then got worse
Mild erect curvature but major Loss of girth, dents and significant semi-erect curve
Moderate Erectile Dysfunction
Re-started VED, also using Restorex