Interesting nofap restorex phenomenon

[samsung]

I find if I only masturbate like every 5 days or something that my dick becomes more flexible. And hence, I can "bury the white lines" on restorex and get to the 3rd bent position with the device. But if I masturbate more often, it gets less flexible.

The only problem with this is I find myself getting aroused too easily while strapped in the device, which freaks me out.

Anyone else experience more penile flexibility if you don't jerk off?

[hope794]

I'm at the moment using the Penimaster Pro. I used to masturbate 1 time a week and i was having good results. When i began to masturbate more often, my penis got inflamed and inflamed to the point that i had to reduce PMP from 6 to 4 hours a day and now i've stopped it for some time.

Masturbation is BAD, because you inflame even more your penis and keep the inflammation "alive". If you need to masturbate, you should use an oil to lubricate and it should last a max of 5-10 minutes, doing it really gently.. Not more. That's my experience.

[samsung]

Hope, don't take this as directed at you. It is not.

It is opinions like these that make me wonder why every single person on this forum doesn't get an implant immediately. Seriously, take a look at the implications of this statement.

If true, and masturbating is an inflammatory event, and I believe it might be personally, then for the rest of our lives, we can only perform perfunctory businesslike masturbation with no joy and can only do it once a week. Because peyronie's is permanent. So that means forever. Logically.

So, is this o.k. with you? If so, why? Why is it o.k.? To me, I would rather cut it off to spite God.

I'm derailing my own thread here. Oh well.

[hope794]

Yo bro, no offense, you just said what you think, and i agree with you except on one point.

Peyronie's may be permanent, but the inflammatory acute phase will not. Even if it takes weeks, months, or more commonly YEARS to switch off the inflammations, one day it will be off. And when it will be off, you will not have adverse events with masturbation or sex (except if u have another severe trauma or a lot of microtraumas).

In case you have inflammations since years, severe ED not responsive to PDE5i, and pain.. well.. your logic is 100% right. Maybe go for an implant should be the best shot.

But consider that the implant may be a CRAP solutions for many. For example, for me. When i am a lot inflamed, my penis stretches like sh*t, and even if i stretch it at the maximum when its flaccid, i reach the 13cm. That's the lenght that a surgeon will consider for the implant and, if u consider 1-2 more cm lost with it, i would end with an insufficient and sad penis which would condemn me to severe depression.

Better 10 minutes of masturbations with a penis which "satisfies" you in his lenght and girth, or 1 hour of sex with a tiny bionical penis that u hate?

I don't know, honestly, but one day i'll have to evaluate it cause if i don't solve my peyronie's soon, at the age of 32/33 i'll go for an implant. (im 26 now).

Cheers

[samsung]

Interesting. I've never heard of someone saying that the inflammation from masturbating would stop based on whether you were in acute or chronic phase. They always state it like it permanently causes inflammation, hence making my statement correct. But if you're right, then you are correct.

[hope794]

If Peyronies Disease is stable since many months/years, and the myofibroblasts are all dead, you're essentially in the "chronic phase" which is just a normal scar, but in the penis. And scars dont get inflamed again if you "stretch" them.  

[scronan]

Hey Samsung,

I am 14 days past my first round of Xiaflex and have been using RestoreX for daily traction as recommended by my Doc. I have had a hard plaque for nearly 5 years now (with painful erections) and my wife and I have just dealt with it, but now it's time to try and correct the issue.

100% without masturbating for the last 16 days my flaccid penis and testicles are way more flexible and way larger (double in size??) than they have looked in years. Since I am not allowed to masturbate/have sex for at least 4 weeks after the Xiaflex, I'd thought I would just do my best to extend that to no porn/masturbation for 90 days to give the healing process it's best chance. Seems like 90 days is the initial gold standard timeline for the nofap folks.

I am having the same problem getting aroused too easily while strapping into RestoreX device. It shouldn't freak you out and seems pretty normal for most folks (especially if you are masturbating less or not at all). I found a pretty cheap and quick solution though, which is to use a heating pad. I picked up a basic, inexpensive heating pad from Walgreens and I wrap everything in that for 5-10 minutes prior to a RestoreX stretching/remodeling session. Not only does it loosing everything up (easier to secure RestoreX), but if I become aroused I simply take off the RestoreX device, put myself back on heat for a few minutes, and start over.

Heat plus taking my mind off of things during the 30 minutes of RestoreX by either working, reading, box breathing, watching Netflix, etc. Hope this helps. Let me know if you have any questions.

[NeoV]

Nofap absolutely makes your penis more flexible / elastic, especially if you have inflammation and fibrosis in it. That said, there is a limit to this until it starts getting worse (a month of Nofap for example, but hard to say). It's a tricky balance but I've talked about this quite a lot in videos by now.

I recommend most men to masturbate once a week (on Monday usually) and NEVER check their erections before then. In some rare cases I recommend more sexual activity.

[scronan]

Nofap absolutely makes your penis more flexible / elastic, especially if you have inflammation and fibrosis in it. That said, there is a limit to this until it starts getting worse (a month of Nofap for example, but hard to say). It's a tricky balance but I've talked about this quite a lot in videos by now.

I recommend most men to masturbate once a week (on Monday usually) and NEVER check their erections before then. In some rare cases I recommend more sexual activity.

NeoV - Do you have a link to your videos? I'd be interested in giving them a look.

I'm planning on nofap for 90 days or so in conjunction with Xiaflex and traction, but then have a healthy masturbation practice after that (once per week, 10 days, something along those lines). And trying to stick to masturbating upon spontaneous arousals instead of seeking out porn to force arousal. Also during that 90 days, if it's possible for my wife and I to have sex I am going to do that.

What do you mean by "check" your erections? Thanks!

[bustedchubb]

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjX1naIryWc6pennKOHWbgg

[scronan]

Thank you. Coincidentally enough, I have seen some of your videos while doing research. Thanks, again!

[TonySa]

No FAP...no evidence...but if you try it and it works for you, great.

[NeoV]

Nofap is likely not going to be studied much, due to funding, cultural bias, and since it's a subjective feeling of well-being. Improved erection quality however is a given (up until a certain point). Also, there is no way inflammation levels in the penis, levels of tgf-beta, or other biomarkers are likely to be studied in the human penis during Nofap, since it's too difficult and no financial gain. The porn industry and other powers would probably shut that down hard. The last thing society wants is a way to improve and empower the masses, especially sexually. Keep the masses dumb, inflamed, and sexually weak--that's the goal of the system, for now. Furthermore, the masses could not handle this truth if it was discovered. Most men would go crazy and get triggered.

It's the same for all truths, they are hidden until the masses reach a certain threshold and are able to actually safely grasp it.

In the last few years I have had the best erections ever. This is not because of supplements or drugs, but because of very careful practices over time. No man want's to hear this. Men want a quick fix, a pill. No man wants to hear it's about his own will power. I certainly support drugs and supplements of course, they can have a place and be effective.

[hope794]

Nofap is likely not going to be studied much, due to funding, cultural bias, and since it's a subjective feeling of well-being. Improved erection quality however is a given (up until a certain point). Also, there is no way inflammation levels in the penis, levels of tgf-beta, or other biomarkers are likely to be studied in the human penis doing Nofap, since it's too difficult and no financial gain. The porn industry and other powers would probably shut that down hard. The last thing society wants is a way to improve and empower the masses, especially sexually. Keep the masses dumb, inflamed, and sexually weak--that's the goal of the system, for now. Furthermore, the masses could not handle this truth if it was discovered. Most men would go crazy and get triggered.

It's the same for all truths, they are hidden until the masses reach a certain threshold and are able to actually safely grasp it.

In the last few years I have had the best erections ever. This is not because of supplements or drugs, but because of very careful practices over time. No man want's to hear this. Men want a quick fix, a pill. No man wants to hear it's about his own will power. I certainly support drugs and supplements of course, they can have a place and be effective.

Yo NeoV, can you please explain which practices you're talking about? Thanks!