When do you give up and get an implant or surgery?

[samsung]

I have a calcified plaque. I do not believe any positive things I read here because I have experienced the opposite. The curve has improved 0%.

Why wait around for it to keep getting smaller and more curved. Makes no sense. There is no way they cure this disease in my lifetime or likely even a lifetime after that. It just is not considered important.

I have been doing traction faithfully. I take arginine, daily cialis, and lipoic acid.

I do heat therapy daily after traction. I have tried penimaster and now doing restorex.

I am going to my 3rd round of xiaflex.

I eat a keto diet. I briefly tried DMSO with Pentox and verapamil but the Pentox again made me absolutely physically insane. Just like oral Pentox did.

And that has done exactly squat.

I do not believe these therapies are effective unless you are young and have a sexual injury and a non hardened plaque.

I had a minor length and girth gain a number of months ago and I think that might have just been due to starting cialis.

So, in my opinion I need to just mentally prepare for an implant. Because waiting for a cure or continuing with all this nonsense is a mentally draining, pointless, expensive waste of time.

I'm not trying to be negative here. I am just totally discouraged. Totally.

Rant over.

[samsung]

Do you just do traction forever? I feel like a F^@$!ng chump sitting here with my weenie in a vice. Stupid.

[Godisreal]

An implant is a smart move if you are over 40 imo
There's no going back, okay, but if I were in your age I would definitely get an implant.

[MarkDS]

I feel your pain.  My plaque had totally calcified.  I've tried surgery, and it has helped a bit, but at the sacrifice of significant length.

I'm now under on of the top surgeons in Europe.  I've part funded an operation to try and make things more comfortable.  The next stage would be an implant, as to redo the original unsuccessful incision and grafting would be extremely difficult.

My surgeon says whilst I am still able to get an erection and successfully have intercourse, you would not advise an implant.  Although, implant surgery would likely restore length, as the plaque and graft could be removed.

It's definitely and option to consider.  I'm 47 now.  I will leave it as long as I can, as you always live in hope that implants continue to improve and maybe amazing things with stem cell is just around the corner.  

[samsung]

Here's the thing that gets me, and you said it Mark. I am in the middle in no man's land. Still able to get erections and have intercourse. The curve isn't bad enough or ED bad enough for an implant and it isn't good enough for me to improve through the means on this forum or not go insane with envy and self pity. The original doc I saw did not even want to do xiaflex. He said learn to live with the curve. Why would I do that?

Stem cells, sure. Maybe. But the testing of it will take 20 years for trials.  

[TonySa]

I'd give regular traction 6 months before giving up, 6-8 hrs daily or Restorex 30-60 minutes daily.

[samsung]

That's the plan I think Tony, yes. I can't see doing this for years on end.

I'm going to get my doc soon too to prescribe mofetil + DMSO mix.

And if nothing in 6 months next steps will be taken provided I am comfortable enough to go forward with whatever is next.