I know this will meet with disapproval with some members, and trust me when I say this, I'm not trying to be funny or perverted but I am seriously considering the services of a female professional to satisfy my needs because I don't want to get into a relationship with someone I care about only to disappoint her. That would be mentally devastating for me. I know the risks of hiring someone but I need to feel the closeness of a woman even if it is for an hour.

I would never have ever considered something like this at any other time of my life but here I am.

This may be very difficult to understand especially if you're married, like I was, once upon a time. But I really hope some of you here can understand that and not attack me for expressing this perspective. I would really appreciate some thoughts on this. Thank you.

All is vanity. Trapped in a human body we're slaves to wants and they merely pass away. Even if you had sex, it's fun for a short time and then it's a mere memory, and we faintly remember those in time. It's hard being bound in this craving human frame, always bound to wanting the wind. It will all be forgotten.

Matt, maybe you could take up meditation and really meditate on the passing nature of things, even companionship. Then maybe you'll be able to live fairly well without satisfying the need of a woman.

John, thank you for your thoughts.

My memories of being sexually satisfied are pretty strong. I loved the euphoria of sex and the closeness of a woman. Granted, spending an hour with a woman I've never met is not going to exactly duplicate what I had with my ex but it could be just what I need to deal with my physical urges. Also, now that I've got such a huge bend to my penis, I can use her to experiment to see what works and what doesn't without concern as to what she's going to think. Maybe she's experienced in male problems and knows a trick or two. I don't know but my current personal situation is not making me happy. I can't imagine any kind of meditation routine that's going to satisfy my needs.

Matt

Proposing you to read:
Successfully fighting the psychological component of Peyronies - Peyronies Society Forums
learn4life have a huge success dealing with his problem after not having sex for long long time
Regarding professional female, you will know if you will try.   Just carefully with all the diseases out there.

James

I understand those needs are hard to break. To refuse those needs is like trying to shed humanity in a human body. It's the most difficult thing. There have been men who have developed the power of mind, through meditation and mindfulness, to master sexuality, but few are really willing to do that.

The best I can do is to watch the thought, feeling, and urge arise without engaging it and letting it beat on me. If one just watches it then it fades in time without torturing them. But, again, there are few men who wish to master their sexuality, because of the high and ecstasy that is released by brain chemicals when it comes to women.

For me, I'll either learn how to master these desires, and not let them torture me, or I'll kill myself. Giving birth is painful, and shedding one's animal nature and becoming divine in this world is the hardest thing. I know those men who have escaped the cocoon of their animal nature soar the heavens beautifully, but how hard it is to become released from those bonds.

I hope I can escape and be free among men... if not I may just die.

MattFoley,

I don't know what to say.  
Physically speaking intercourse is intercourse so anyone will do.
Morally speaking, what you think about your own proposal depends on your core beliefs.  
Physiologically speaking, intercourse and physical proximity to someone that you hired to have sex will be a lot like really good masturbation.  It temporarily fulfills physical appetites but can do nothing for the need for companionship and intimacy especially if you are honest with yourself.

There are of course the legal ramifications and risks.  There are also the health ramifications and risks.  There is also the moral dilemma many would have about enabling the system of prostitution that victimizes and ensnares so many women.

In the final analysis it doesn't matter much what we think.  It is your own core values and the tolerance you have for the risk.  I will say as far as the risk is concerned that the old adage about gambling applies. "Never gamble anything you cannot afford to lose".  For instance, If the worse case scenario were to happen, can you live with the outcome?  For instance would it be ok if you end up on DateLine NBC with Chris Hansen    What about health protection?

No one can answer this one but you.

Hawk, thank you for your thoughts.

Morally, I'm not really a fan of this idea. In fact, I'm hoping to figure a way out of not doing this but I've been thinking about this for several months and I'm getting closer to doing it.

I recognize of course the legal issue as well. The kind of girl I'm considering is not your typical street-walker. This would be an independent escort girl who does this kind of work for the extra money and some really do enjoy this lifestyle. At least they'll get to retire a lot earlier than I will.

The only thing would be that meeting anyone from DateLine would not be fun.

First, be careful dammit! There are people out there who will really screw you (pun intended) in this situation. I, personally, don't know that I could do what you are contemplating. But I am not in your shoes. We are not here to make moral judgements anyway.  Realizing that a normal man desires the warmth, touch, and scent of a woman, I understand your logic. You don't have to explain or be embarrassed cause you won't see her again. You can experiment and see what works. Maybe there is a benefit there. I can't fault the logic. I would be very careful. And I would report back to me with all the details .
  I don't encourage or condone, but whatever you decide is up to you. It won't change your need to be a part of this distinguished group. Good luck in your decision. Be careful!!!! It's your life we are talking about!

Quote from: lwillisjr on January 17, 2013, 09:21:04 PM
Frankly I can't believe we are having this discussion. This has nothing to do with Peyronies Disease nor the psychological component on how to deal with it.

Of course it does. Read the thread, you'll see many points addressing exactly that.

I, for one, certainly see the psychological aspect rearing its head. We all have to find our own way to deal with it. It's not my place to approve nor disapprove.

The psychological component of all this is fear of rejection and failure. We all suffer through that regardless of our interpersonal status.

As I mentioned, I am not achieving 100% of pre-Peyronie's erection firmness so my confidence is shot. Even with Viagra AND Cialis AND penis bands, it's still not where it should be. A woman could tell how firm I am easily enough. I don't know if the quadmix would make it even more firm but I will talk to my doctor about that.

I have a 75-80% bend, so I have no idea exactly sexual positions will and will not work. Should I test it out on someone who could quite potentially reject me or on a professional who won't judge me? I don't know.

I'm stressing about this everyday so I have to come to some resolution at some point.

My desire is to get into a normal relationship with someone and not have to put her through my "learning curve".

I don't think there is anything wrong with the idea, neither morally or functionally, if one got an understanding working girl. That is disregarding the legality of it wherever you are.

One thing though, you add religious blessings to the bottom of many of your posts, is doing this something you personally could live with morally afterward?

One thing though, you add religious blessings to the bottom of many of your posts, is doing this something you personally could live with morally afterward?

That's one of those things I'm struggling with. It is a serious concern for me but as much as this sounds like a bizarre justification, I'm looking at this as "physical therapy". Yeah, I know.  

Matt, just curious if you found a professional? I am presently married but in the process of divorce and have not had sex in four months.  That is the longest I have ever gone since I am 17 and I am 58 now and I am considering the same route once my divorce is final.

I view it similar to using a sex surrogate. My Peyronies Disease has caused about a 35 degree upward cure and slightly to the left during this period and I really want to know how I can function at this time.

I am not looking for a relationship right now due to my divorce. I don't want a rebound relationship after 31 years of marriage, I am not in a good place mentally and emotionally. My Peyronies Disease has nothing to do with my divorce but the timing just sucks.

Quote from: IhatePD on June 06, 2013, 09:47:12 AM. . My Peyronies Disease has caused about a 35 degree upward cure and slightly to the left during this period and I really want to know how I can function at this time.

FWIW, as long as you don't have ED as well, then 35 degrees should be fine. I was still able to have intercourse with a 55 degree upward bend although it wasn't great.

There was an interesting program on Channel 4 (UK TV) last night called sex on wheels about the sex life of people with different disabilities. One of the stories was that of the mother of a 26 year old man with learning disabilities who organised for him to loose his virginity with an escort. She had real reservations, but in the end decided it was the right thing to do. Not sure about the law in the US, but in the UK there is nothing illegal about working as an independent escorts.

Moteyi, thanks for the encouragement.  I sure hope you are right. I don't have ED and now that I am on the daily Cialis I have erections all night long, or at least every time I wake up.

After 4 months of not having sex and developing the curvature during that time, I am anxious to try out the equipment and see where I am at but I won't do anything with anyone until I am divorced.

The only place I know in the U.S. where prostitution is legal is in the State of Nevada, except for the Las Vegas area (as if that stops anyone).

IHatePD,

I would very much like to share what I found out but I think it's perhaps best handled by PM since some people may find this kind of conversation a bit too much. Feel free to PM me and I'll provide you with the information you are requesting.

Quote from: IhatePD on June 06, 2013, 09:47:12 AM
have not had sex in four months.  

I'm 34 and it's been over a year for me. Facing divorce as well. Oddly enough, the Peyronie's aspect isn't really worrying me, it's having to meet new people while balancing a career and being a dad.

Not gonna mix it up with a lady of the evening though, not worth the risk!

-Skjald