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Title: I feel demotivated using my VED after reading what Dr Trost had to say about it
Post by: porterrobinson on October 04, 2021, 10:19:31 AM
I was very hopeful about using the VED but it just made sense to me, my main problem is not curvature which is very minimal and would in itself not bother me at all, it is the indentation and one sided hourglassing and loss of girth in that area that is extremely bothersome and gives me penis an instability but it also just feels overall much less enjoyable to use my dick. it made sense that the negative pressure of the vacuum pump pulls out the affectes tissue restoring girth.

based on Dr Trost however someone who has probably seen it all it does not work very well for this kind of deformity at all. nothing seems to. for curves there is injections, surgery, traction. what is there dor wasting and hour glassing? i cannot even get surgery because nobody would operate on me as theyd need to do a grafting surgery which is high risk low quality outcome.

has anyone seen any results with the ved? please tell me about it. I am particularly(only actually) interested in anecdotes on indentations and hourglass deformities. i am scared there is nothing i can do to imrpove this condition
Title: Re: I feel demotivated using my VED after reading what Dr Trost had to say about it
Post by: Bud luck on October 04, 2021, 03:30:26 PM
I'm on the same boat
Title: Re: I feel demotivated using my VED after reading what Dr Trost had to say about it
Post by: Bud luck on October 04, 2021, 03:41:27 PM
Actually the only surgery that could help you is the implant
Title: Re: I feel demotivated using my VED after reading what Dr Trost had to say about it
Post by: porterrobinson on October 04, 2021, 03:42:41 PM
I want to recover the lost girth. nobody would ever do an implant in my case as it is not severe enough and also i am too young and have no erectile dysfunction. i am looking for other solutions
Title: Re: I feel demotivated using my VED after reading what Dr Trost had to say about it
Post by: Bud luck on October 04, 2021, 04:01:24 PM
There is a member on this forum that he achieved to fix his hourglass and dents with manual traction, I don't know, I'm been doing traction and doesn't seem to work for me, maybe would work for you
Title: Re: I feel demotivated using my VED after reading what Dr Trost had to say about it
Post by: Kobegianna on October 06, 2021, 12:40:31 AM
I am in exactly the same boat as you. I also talked to Dr Trost and I agree with him. I honestly just tried ved and traction because what else can you do? but I truly believe at least for wasting and Hourglassing ved and traction will do nothing. I stopped completely I do not want to injury myself more or cause more damage. there's just now way that ved is causing enough stretch to do anything to ""pop" out an indentation or stretch out the hourglassing
Title: Re: I feel demotivated using my VED after reading what Dr Trost had to say about it
Post by: Hawk on October 06, 2021, 01:19:40 AM
Dr. Levine did a small study, years back, in which traction was reported to help hourglass deformity although I am not sure how strictly it was conducted or how objective it was.  Also, I think there is some success with the 3 cylinder VED from Agusta with hourglass deformity.

All of this however has NOTHING to do with ED ant this board is "VED's, Rings, Devices to Treat Erectile Dysfunction".  This post will be moved to the Peyronies Disease treatment area
Title: Re: I feel demotivated using my VED after reading what Dr Trost had to say about it
Post by: jj21 on December 14, 2021, 05:12:01 AM
I'm not sure what you mean by "wasting" - narrowing ?

I do know about a year or two back I had dents and hinges - using VED for 2-3 months definitely increased girth, ED and curvature. (Unfortunately I overpumped and damages further which set me back years.

Every case is individual and I just know a lot of users (including myself ) have found success from VED usage. Others prefer traction.

Hopefully that may give you some hope. I know how hard it can be thinking nothing will cure you.
Title: Re: I feel demotivated using my VED after reading what Dr Trost had to say about it
Post by: Nolte94 on December 15, 2021, 01:45:53 AM
Never give up!

Many urologist said to me, that only surgery could bring me my "old penis" back, but PTT reduced my curvature from ~45° to ~10° and the daily pain has gone.

Your problem with hourglassing and instability could be improved with traction, too. But you have to give it more than 1 try. Continuity and patience are very strong skills to fight against Peyronies Disease. In my case, VED was only a little extra, because I think, that traction with lower tension over a longer time combined with the natural cell renewal is the best treatment without higher risks.
Title: Re: I feel demotivated using my VED after reading what Dr Trost had to say about it
Post by: Bud luck on May 13, 2022, 09:23:34 AM
Well, I just talked to an Urologist that told me that he recommended VED for fibrosis not traction, traction is recommended for a curve but not for fibrosis that causes hourglass/narrowing/dent. I don't have plaque. I have fibrosis and he told me that the VED won't get rid of the fibrosis but at least will keep the blood flow to maintain good erections, but he is against traction. Well, every Urologist think differently on what to do for our condition.
Title: Re: I feel demotivated using my VED after reading what Dr Trost had to say about it
Post by: pey ron on August 15, 2022, 02:10:17 AM
@Bud Luck: mind sharing who is the urologist that recommended VED?
Title: Re: I feel demotivated using my VED after reading what Dr Trost had to say about it
Post by: Bud luck on August 15, 2022, 10:31:46 AM
Is an Italian urologist that works in Barcelona, Spain. The Doctor name is Nicola Tartaglia, he is considered one of the  best in Spain
Title: Re: I feel demotivated using my VED after reading what Dr Trost had to say about it
Post by: James884 on September 19, 2022, 09:04:40 AM
God there's so many of us with this flaccid hourglassing fibrosis. I genuinely feel so much empathy for all of us. I know the pain you all feel.
Title: Re: I feel demotivated using my VED after reading what Dr Trost had to say about it
Post by: Sonic on September 19, 2022, 10:39:58 AM
Quote from: James884 on September 19, 2022, 09:04:40 AM
God there's so many of us with this flaccid hourglassing fibrosis. I genuinely feel so much empathy for all of us. I know the pain you all feel.

If the hour glassing goes away when erect there's nothing to worry about. Maybe I misunderstood your message, it sounds like only flaccid issues? If hour glassing is there while erect then yes it's a very hard condition to treat. I have it myself dent. I've read guys who has had the mildest dents/hourglassing problems you could imagine and still ended up needing implants.

I think specifically for people who already suffered depression once you get this disease it intensifies drastically.
Title: Re: I feel demotivated using my VED after reading what Dr Trost had to say about it
Post by: Bud luck on September 19, 2022, 01:17:23 PM
I also developed torsion after over 3 years over this disease