Which only makes my claims about estrogen being the main cause of Peyronies.
Everybody here as some part taken a supplement to increase their testosterone.
Peyronie's disease is a disease of enzymes.
Aromtase enyzme
5ar enyzme
17 hydroxyprogesterone enyzme
Digestive enyzme.
I would not be surprised if most of us have low protein absorption, which explain the low gains in the gym.
I truly believe that the cure is somewhere hidden in the enyzme world.
All shemales have Peyronie's.
Says Who ???
Where did you get that information?
Search in google :
SHEMALE DICK
Lol do you know what young scientist?! I searched it, and most of them have straight penises. If you search "my erect dick", you will see some curved dicks too. So whats new!
You are blind.
Search again , go to pornhub.
90% of them have peyronies.
-YoungFella
A curved penis don't mean you have Peyronies Disease, a long way from it, a lot of men enjoy a curved penis, that includes me.
All of you are deluded.
Androgens plays major part in Peyronie.
Most people are ignoring the main part - fixing overall health.
Go look at trannies , most of them have Peyronie's.
You think all of them have type 2 diabetes ?all of them had injury?
I dont think so.
This may be the strangest instance of confirmation bias I have ever seen.
[It's good to see this symptom getting more discussion on here as it's bad enough in itself.
I googled this treatment from Dr Thierry Hertoghe which indicates use of andractim to the penis and high dose TRT.
Interestingly it suggests that a cortisol defeciency is also indicated in Peyronies Disease which is what I have. Although that wouldn't explain why I got it almost instantaneously when I crashed.
dreddyclinic.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=15136 2
'Treatment scheme of the famous endocrinologist Thierry Hertoghe for Peyronie's disease:
Vit. E 1200 mg/day oral
Oral Hydrocortisone (30 mg/day) or glucocorticoid (prednisolone 5 mg or if AHT 4 mg of medrol)
Testo enanthate injections 250 mg per week (2 months) then every 10 days (2 months) then every 2 weeks (2 months)
GH: doses around 1 IU/day or 0.33 mg per day
Locale DHT gel 2.5%
There is often cortisol deficiency in Peyronie's disease and a 5 mg
prednisolone could be necessary to combat the fibrosis in case of confirmed cortisol deficiency. Doses of vit. E are rather 2000 mg per day during 9-16 months. Fundamental is also the food : alchohol –sweets and starch (including bread and pastas) – milk intake seriously hinders the treatment, while a high protein (meat, fish, poultry 200-300 grams a day is essential, only fruits and vegetables as supplement to protein
No problem of topical DHT and prostate (in fact systemic DHT reduces the prostate volume by – 15 to *- 20 %.
This is exactly my situation, i have low cortisol from 17hydroxy Proges deficiency and high estrogen from low Dht from using Regenpure shampoo + anabolics cycle without pct.
First results to expect after 4-6 months, more if the food was not good'[/quote]
There is a guy on this from who had 90 degrees of peyronies and made a change with 300mg of test, i wonder what a 20 years old like me would react fo heavy steroid cycle with cortisol.
I would probably do high dose test p with atleast 75mg of Proviron.
I can understand why this theory is so unappealing, maybe becuase your age.[no pun intended]
I truly believe that traction without any kind of testosterone is risks
What you "believe" is interesting but after reading a few dozen great sounding comprehensive theories I am prone to go with objective evidence.
Also, it is difficult to take your visual diagnosis of porn penises seriously. Do have any real evidence such as objective studies, trials with a control group, or anything that would constitute evidence? I am not asking for proof here, just evidence. Unproved theories and speculation just no longer excite me.
there is a difference between young with Hormonal problem to old guys with diabetes.
if you cant peyronies in shemales i Dont what to tell you
Your first sentence is obvious and had nothing to do with my point. To your second sentence: if you don't understand the importance of objective evidence as compared to speculation, I don't know what to tell you. ;)
I can understand that you see the shemales have peyronies.
Now, what's everyone's gonna understand from this is up to you
In my world, the truth is not subjective. Everyone cannot be up to everyone to have their own understanding and truth. We are all entitled to our own opinions but we are not entitled to our own facts.
This thread made me laugh i dont know why haha.
Quote from: YoungFella on October 29, 2018, 01:23:28 PM
Which only makes my claims about estrogen being the main cause of Peyronies.
Everybody here as some part taken a supplement to increase their testosterone.
Peyronie's disease is a disease of enzymes.
Aromtase enyzme
5ar enyzme
17 hydroxyprogesterone enyzme
Digestive enyzme.
I would not be surprised if most of us have low protein absorption, which explains the low gains in the gym.
I truly believe that the cure is somewhere hidden in the enzyme world.
All shemales have Peyronie's.
. This is interesting!!
I have used Tribulus and some type of test but my Peyronies Disease come after injury, but still, I was under stress, had a f'^+d up relationship, and my mind was overwhelmed, soo i don't know how why but this is so hard to deal now!!
My doctor seems to think there is a relationship between low T and peyrones. I have low T. Most men lose T as they age. Young people can have low T. Low T can make your skin less pliable . Most people with low T do not have peyrones. Difference between bowing and kinking , narrowing and shortening. You're just seeing bowing. Bowing alone does not mean you have peyrones. Many men dont know they have low T until the blood test. I had strong erections and a normal sex drive when I was diagnosed. I was surprised to find out I had low T. I think my energy levels were way down. I though that was just age. I have always been hot lusting after. women. Another symptom I had was muscle weakness which effected my spine and lower back. I run a physical business.
What preceded my peyrones was pelvic hernia surgery. That was the only trauma I had. Close to having to use a catheter for awhile there.
Quote from: YoungFella on October 29, 2018, 01:23:28 PM
All shemales have Peyronie's.
Well, not all. But I've noticed that a curved penis is much more common among shemales. I have to agree that a lot of them have Peyronie's.
Peyronie's is more common in old guys too. What shemales and old guys share in common?
A F^@$!ng dick Low testosterone!
Quote from: YoungFella on October 29, 2018, 01:23:28 PM
I would not be surprised if most of us have low protein absorption, which explain the low gains in the gym.
I truly believe that the cure is somewhere hidden in the enyzme world.
Interesting, I'm a hard gainer too. How do you know this is a common trait among Peyronie's patients?
Hope folks are up for a little education here. Using the terms shemales or trannies is considered offensive. If an individual born w a penis begins taking females hormones it is most respectful to call HER a trans woman. Thanks all!
Quote from: Tortão Pra Direita on June 04, 2020, 09:10:22 PM
Well, not all. But I've noticed that a curved penis is much more common among shemales. I have to agree that a lot of them have Peyronie's.
Peyronie's is more common in old guys too. What shemales and old guys share in common? A F^@$!ng dick Low testosterone!
Interesting, I'm a hard gainer too. How do you know this is a common trait among Peyronie's patients?
honestly the low iq here is mind boggling. old guys still have quite normal testosterone levels compared to trans folk, test declines like what, 1% per half decade by the age of 40 which means you have still completely normal test levels for a man, just 10% or so lower than when you were young. women and transgenders have almost zero test. honestly, this entire thread makes me think there is a correlation between stupidity and having peyronies
oh and googling trans dick yields tons of peyronies free dicks
Interesting. Testosterone might play into it..
BUT the nr.1 reason for the deformations is that many trans people bend their penis backwards. Some strap it through their legs, folded to some degree and then fixate it with tape or specific underwear. To avoid a bulge I guess.
Now if you do that from teen on it's very easy to deform the penis this way. You will get erections that are bend multiple times.
Some might wear their penis this way everyday for many hours for many years. Even as an adult this will deform your penis and create a bend. NOT necessary peyronies though.
For what it's worth I always had low-average testosterone levels. In the 400's ng/dl total testosterone. Normal range is about 300-1200ng/dl. Now I'm on TRT for about 4 months and my my trough (lowest point, so right before next injection) my total T is now 800 ng/dl and free T is even slightly above the normal range so i lowered it a tiny bit. Overall I feel better, stronger, more energy and I lost fat while gaining some muscle. I also have higher libido (which actually annoys me considering my penile issues) and probably get erect a little easier/more often. But I can honestly say it did nothing for the progression of peyronies. I still continue to get slowly worse and in my case I'm 100% sure it was jelqing and overpumping that caused it. Not low T. Then again, maybe if i always had high T I wouldn'thave got this, but I doubt it. Anyway, testosterone is not the cure to peyronies.
Quote from: peter123 on June 06, 2020, 06:38:36 AM
honestly the low iq here is mind boggling. old guys still have quite normal testosterone levels compared to trans folk, test declines like what, 1% per half decade by the age of 40 which means you have still completely normal test levels for a man, just 10% or so lower than when you were young. women and transgenders have almost zero test. honestly, this entire thread makes me think there is a correlation between stupidity and having peyronies
oh and googling trans dick yields tons of peyronies free dicks
First of all, it's well documented that the incidence of Peyronie is higher among old dudes. If a patient has low testo, frequently the urologist prescribe clomid or TRT (it depends on age), like my urologist did. I hadn't a low testosterone, but it wasn't good for my age.
Second of all, I'm not talking about 300 ng/dL level of testosterone. I'm talking about LOW testosterone, like 120 ng/dL or less. Easily we can find 25 years old guys with 350 ng/dL levels or less, imagine so 60 year old dudes. Now, think yourself: what's a common testosterone range level for a trans? It's not much lower than 100 ng/dL. They are taking hormones, but still having balls. Their levels are higher than women levels.
Third: I'm not talking low testosterone as a cause, but as a common trait. Something that leverages the disease and allows its progression.
It baffles me how people has no clue what are saying and try to correct others arrogantly, like you did. So F^@$!ng stupid.
Quote from: Tortão Pra Direita on June 07, 2020, 09:44:03 PM
First of all, it's well documented that the incidence of Peyronie is higher among old dudes. If a patient has low testo, frequently the urologist prescribe clomid or TRT (it depends on age), like my urologist did. I hadn't a low testosterone, but it wasn't good for my age.
Second of all, I'm not talking about 300 ng/dL level of testosterone. I'm talking about LOW testosterone, like 120 ng/dL or less. Easily we can find 25 years old guys with 350 ng/dL levels or less, imagine so 60 year old dudes. Now, think yourself: what's a common testosterone range level for a trans? It's not much lower than 100 ng/dL. They are taking hormones, but still having balls. Their levels are higher than women levels.
Third: I'm not talking low testosterone as a cause, but as a common trait. Something that leverages the disease and allows its progression.
It baffles me how people has no clue what are saying and try to correct others arrogantly, like you did. So F^@$!ng stupid.
yeah I can agree with that actually. its just that especially online, people claim low testosterone start at like sub 500nd/dL, there is guys with average levels who go on hrt which is insane. I have 380 ng/dL as a 20 year old and my libido is very high, I have body hair growth and its very easy for me to build muscle. so people tell me dude you need replacement therapy because you have low test for your age-but since I am absolutely not symptomatic I dont see how this would achieve anything. but yes, testosterone has anti inflammatory properties, increases NO expression so it is not far fetched to suggest it affects your dick.
I just wanted to chime in to say that lot's of trans females end up with peyronies like symptoms after going on female hormones.
You can find it on forums on on reddit.
An absence of androgens can definitely be a very real cause of fibrosis. Just because movie star trannies with 9 inch dicks are straight is not indicative of what happens when you deprive the average male of androgens.
I notice the same thing many years ago when used rely on porno websites for checking the progression of the first disease.
the situation seems to be very common in transexual that can still function , since many of them do not use estrogens but merely cosmetic surgeries ( some have the fake breast removed at the end of their prostitution careers) I did wonder if there was some kind of correlation .
Quote from: Tortão Pra Direita on June 07, 2020, 09:44:03 PM
First of all, it's well documented that the incidence of Peyronie is higher among old dudes.
The body lost elastine when one grow old , risulting in silent widespread fibrosis that can lead in truly peyronie disease
Quote from: skunkworks on October 30, 2018, 07:15:57 AM
This may be the strangest instance of confirmation bias I have ever seen.
LOL
nobody about low cortisol and adrenals fatigue?
I think its because hrt has an effect on erection quality, meaning they're probably masturbating with a half erect penis.