I am a formerly board certified urologist who does integrative medicine now. I am interested in sharing a style of treatment I perform termed ozone. I do not see it posted on this forum. I am linking a youtube video made by my teacher Dr. Rowen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOf-li6mATI
go to minute 38 of the video and it shares the peyronie's protocol utilizing ozone. I have used ozone in thousands of patients.
My best to all :)
Hello and welcome to our forum,
I look forward to viewing the video, having a urologist on the forum will be very helpful to our members.
:) Stabler67
Apologies if I posted twice. As for background, I had done 100's of american medical systems inflateable prostheses. I also had done some nesbitt operations in residency. My teachers were Dr. Francois Eid and Dr. Marc Goldstein. Hopefully I will be able to shed light on some novel ideas.
I did see some questions on prp for E/D and peyronie's. I utilize prp and stem cell for arthritis and injury. I was not able to find any belief that it helps peyronie or E/D, so I never offered it. So I agree with what I have read on the forum in general.
Quote from: ozonedoctor on July 09, 2015, 01:39:03 PM
I have used ozone in thousands of patients.
My best to all :)
And what have been the statistical results??
Mr Willis,
https://www.zotero.org/groups/isco3_ozone
above link is to literature and stats on ozone. I will rely on you to uncover the statistics. As for the condition named after François Gigot de la Peyronie, I will ask you to watch the youtube link as utilization for peyronie is in its infancy and based on anecdote thus far. I have used it for dupeytren's with success as noted in the video. I have not used it on a Peyronie patient as of yet, however, Dr Rowen notes success in cuba. Unfortunately, we are behind other countries in some ways.
Hope this helps folks uncover alternate types of therapy.
Also, I realize the internet is a hype/huckster mega machine. This is not my intention. You folks can do the research and exploration. I just thought it was quite interesting when Rowen said it works well for corpora cavernosal plaques and it makes sense to me as a urologist who is well versed in ozone.
http://www.prolotherapyphoenix.com/PDF/Prolozone_Regenerates_Joints.pdf
above is a great link to literature article on ozone. Journal of prolotherapy by Ross Hauser is another great resource on these esoteric therapies that do work in many conditions.
Centro de Investigaciones del Ozono en Cuba (http://www.ozono.cubaweb.cu/resumenes/5to%20Simposio/M27S5.HTM)
link to the cuban study. Doctor's email is on the abstract.
I just wanted to say welcome to the forums. It's nice to see doctors showing up around here.
Someone sent me a message..privately? I do not know how to respond so I will give you all my email. Goruck@gmail.com.
my best as always.
Interesting abstract. It's from back in 2007. Do you know if there has been any further advancement in this line of treatment? Thanks.
Moved the topic here as it is the place for it.
Also introductory topics are locked after 10 posts maximum
Changed also the topic name to be clear what about the topic is.
james
Mr Luckets,
Technically, the update is in the video I provided with Rowen describing anecdotal evidence. I spose my goal is to update this information personally as a practitioner by providing the treatment protocol as noted with a few improvements. As we speak, I am in the process of discussing such with Mr. Willis and seeking his approval of my protocol. I will keep you updated.
Great.
Guess I just read the abstract and didn't see the video. I will look for it.
We all appreciate any further information you can provide on this terrible problem. One can only hope that one of these therapies will become the "breakthrough", and we can put this in the rear view mirror.
ozonedoctor the link to photographing related blog deleted by moderator - James
I will not issue you a warning this time, but the warning will come immediately if you will post additional link to commercial sites and/or not Peyronies related sites!!!
As I mentioned before, this is an example of a protocol that I believe could also have success in certain Peyronie cases.
If you have time, please read this installment that Art posted publicly regarding my protocol on his trigger fingers. Mind you, this gentleman is a world renowned photographer and now a personal friend. He probably would be willing to take questions via his blog since he did post this information publicly.
My best.
here is another link from Mexico: excerpt below and url here....
http://drsozone.com/diseasesstudies/general/
Ozone Therapy in Urology.
The application of ozone in the most frequent pathologies of urology has had a high level of efficacy, such as in prostatic hyperplasia, prostate cancer, Balanitis, stricture of urethra, erectile dysfunction, ejaculation Peyronie disease, interstitial cystitis, human papillomavirus virus and mixed cervical-vaginitis. In this study we analyze the implementation of the ozone therapy depending on the site of affectation and using a combination of different techniques: Autohemoterapy Mayor, local, subcutaneous, directly in the injury and by instillation. In general it was observed a fast evolution of the symptoms and in many of the cases the total healing.
The objective was to provide a better quality of life for the patient from different point of view: curative, preventive or palliative in the treatment of the 10 most common pathologies in urology. More than 80% of patients showed improvement in their symptoms, as it is the case of prostatic hyperplasia in where a reduction in the size of the prostate were 10% to 30%. In addition, elimination of residual urine was observed after treatment. In the case of advanced prostate cancer was applying autohemoterapy in combination with ultraviolet light getting the Prostatic Antigen (PAS) reduction and improving the general health status of the patient.
In the topical application of ozone in Glans affected from balanitis a success has been observed because 90% of the patients improved their symptoms. The same results were observed in topical and intravaginal application in cases of cervico-vaginitis. In Peyronie's disease within fibrosis application after several applications of ozone there was observed a reduction of more than 90% of the injury. The application of ozone in corpus cavernosum also increases vascular flow improving the rigidity of the erection.
The subcutaneous application of ozone in Raphe decreased the hypersensitivity of the Glans getting better ejaculatory control. Ozone applied directly into the male urethra with stenosis, improves urinary flow and urethral caliber as this technique is also used to eliminate the infection by Human Papilloma Virus. In cases of interstitial cystitis intravesical ozonized water was applied repeatedly and the improvement occurs in a short time with long periods of remitting without irritation and infection. All applications of ozone therapy in patients suffering from urological pathology results in an important improvement and in many cases healing. This work shows the great usefulness of ozone therapy as a great tool in the medical practice with surprising results that offer the patient a better quality of life.
Eduardo Martín García Villanueva; Medica Angelus. México D.F., C.P. 07300
Link to commercial site deleted by moderator - James
Peyronies disease is a condition that affects about 1 in every 100 men. It is a scarring condition that causes a significant bend in the penis during erection. It causes pain during intercourse. For many men, it makes intercourse impossible. It also causes a lot of stress and anxiety. The only conventional treatment is surgery, and that can often fail and even make matters worse. Menendez reported on one group of men who were treated with ozone therapy for 4.5 months. 26% of them had excellent results. Another 40% had enough improvement to allow for a normal sex life. And only 10% failed to show any improvement.
I was in Brasil from April -June and saw a holistic MD there who recommended Osone Theraoy fir Pyronies. Only problem is finding anyone here who even has a clue about this. I found Doctors to be far more open and progressive in Brasil.
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Maybe you should contact ozonedoctor.
He is a forum members from the US.
James
Thanks again James, I will try.....
great james, he emailed me. Hopefully I will be able to help him.
Thanks for the help ozonedoctor.
By the way, the appreciation of 1 from every 100 man have Peyronies is very low.
I think is somewhere between 3 to 8%. Most Peyronies sufferers will not post in the news that they have Peyronies :)
James
I had a great phone call with ozonedoctor yesterday. So very helpful. I wished I live closer to hie practice so I could go in for an evaluation. Thanks much ozonedoctor.
could ozone doctor elaborate on what type of ozone therapy was used to get the 66% success rate..
that was mentioned.....
I'm thinking maybe bagging would help or possibly sub Q injections.......
thanks...
Hello friends.......update on ozone therapy......I talked to ozone Dr in florida...he says that some people are doing ozone injections directly into the corpus cavernosum......I am shying away from that for now until further research.....because
I believe that injections may actually cause peyronie's ....but for now Im doing sub-Q injections....but only twice so far...
so I will keep info posted if I notice any improvement..or none at all.
also I would be curious to see how many people with peyronie's have hypothyroid....or low thyroid function....I believe there may be a connection there and just curious if any one else has done thyroid panel blood test to show high TSH and low thyroid function.....
Unclefix, good question. I have been hypo thyroid for a number of years and have the autoimmune condition called Hashimottos disease which is an autoimmune attack on the thyroid.
I recall a post about this 3 or more years ago. Many have theorized that Peyronies is an autoimmune disease. It is now believed that 90% of those in the US who are hypothyroid have Hashimottos. it is common for people with autoimmune diseases to develop others as time goes on.
With that said what do you do about it?
Bump.
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An other blablabla :)
James
What do you mean "blah blah"?
Someone on reddit just forwarded me this information on ozone. Anyone here try it?
Hi Swiss, hope you are coping with this crappy disease?
If you use the search button, for instance My case is very curious, at least - Peyronies Society Forums (https://www.peyroniesforum.net/index.php/topic,8644.msg83392.html#msg83392)
Also you may want to read up on Ozone on ray peat forum, loads of posts if you are interested. I believe cheap ozone generators are 'no good', meaning this therapy is out of reach, and impractical :-\
Paul.
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He come to the forum to get clients to this new therapy.
As he had no success, stopped to be active on the forum at September 03, 2015 :)
I also didn't see any explanation how/why ozone therapy helps with Peyronies
James