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Title: Xiaojin Pill_Penile fibrosis reduction.
Post by: Paolo on October 31, 2019, 04:32:35 AM
Xiaojin Pill could reduce fibrosis in the CC by decreasing the expressions of MMPs, NOS and MDA, and by increasing the activity of SOD. Therefore, Xiaojin Pill might be a therapeutic option for Peyronies Disease.

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs11655-019-3203-7
Title: Re: Xiaojin Pill_Penile fibrosis reduction.
Post by: Dabbydu on October 31, 2019, 04:43:51 PM
Interesting as far as I can see it's widely used in Chinese medicine off a a quick google search so it should be a fairly safe trial. I'd give this a go if I can find the pills

Edit: found them, ordered.
Title: Re: Xiaojin Pill_Penile fibrosis reduction.
Post by: samsung on October 31, 2019, 06:29:40 PM
Where? I forget if we can have links. Please PM me if not. Thanks.
Title: Re: Xiaojin Pill_Penile fibrosis reduction.
Post by: Dabbydu on November 01, 2019, 04:10:01 PM
Well cancel that, I'm going to need to find another source. Customer service wrote me and said the trade war with China has forced us out of stock and we are discontinuing it
Title: Re: Xiaojin Pill_Penile fibrosis reduction.
Post by: NeoV on November 02, 2019, 06:09:18 AM
I saw this the day it popped up on pubmed, but wasn't too sure what to think of it. A lot of supplements increase SOD, not too sure! But any studies on supplements get a thumbs up from me.
Title: Re: Xiaojin Pill_Penile fibrosis reduction.
Post by: Godisreal on December 02, 2019, 08:17:49 AM
Dabbydu, any update yet? Did you find an online-pharmacy? And if so, have you received the pills? 
I'm eager to hear more about this.
Title: Re: Xiaojin Pill_Penile fibrosis reduction.
Post by: Dabbydu on December 05, 2019, 04:30:12 AM
Nothing to update, I couldnt find a supplier that looked legit. One of the ingredients is dangerous in larger doses so after the american company bowed out of production it left very little in the way of reliable options.
Title: Re: Xiaojin Pill_Penile fibrosis reduction.
Post by: hope794 on December 08, 2019, 07:59:57 PM
What is  Xiaojin Pill ? Can someone please explain it to me? Thanks guys!
Title: Re: Xiaojin Pill_Penile fibrosis reduction.
Post by: Pfract on December 08, 2019, 11:58:40 PM
Don't know about you guys, but i woudn't consume anything medical coming from china.
Title: Re: Xiaojin Pill_Penile fibrosis reduction.
Post by: Dabbydu on December 09, 2019, 03:03:45 AM
Medical I'm not worried, herbal unregulated is a different story
Title: Re: Xiaojin Pill_Penile fibrosis reduction.
Post by: pey ron on December 20, 2019, 09:44:57 AM
if anyone finds a source, can you please PM it to me?

thank you!
Title: Re: Xiaojin Pill_Penile fibrosis reduction.
Post by: Godisreal on December 20, 2019, 10:35:25 AM
just because it's chinese doesn't mean it's automatically weird and not working. Sad to hear your opinion on Chinese products, pfract. There's a lot of hidden gems around the world that doesn't involve the western nature. It wouldn't surprise me if a cure for Peyronie's already exists deep down in an Asian laboratory.
Title: Re: Xiaojin Pill_Penile fibrosis reduction.
Post by: hope794 on December 20, 2019, 10:58:57 AM
What is  Xiaojin Pill ? Can someone please explain it to me? Thanks guys!
Title: Re: Xiaojin Pill_Penile fibrosis reduction.
Post by: Pfract on December 21, 2019, 01:11:56 AM
Yes a cure exists, but hasn't been shared with the west. It continues hidden front people, so only Chinese know about it while the rest of the world suffers.
Title: Re: Xiaojin Pill_Penile fibrosis reduction.
Post by: Godisreal on December 23, 2019, 02:48:02 PM
Your statement is gonna look very stupid the day stem cells becomes FDA-approved and cure you. Stem cells is something that already is heavily scouted. While it's success isn't radical enough to enter the human territory, I can't help but to think some underdog country already is one step ahead. A good example is Japan, a country that seems to be 50 years ahead of the rest of the world in a lot of things.
Title: Re: Xiaojin Pill_Penile fibrosis reduction.
Post by: howtheheck on June 06, 2021, 08:30:45 PM
I started taking Xiaojin Wan about a week ago.  However I used only 3 pills a day to see if I got any negative reaction.  The box actually says in Chinese 3-7 pills twice a day, meaning up to 14 pills a day.  Not many are sold here in China in pill form.  Typically they are in granular or pellet (Wan) form.  I tried one day in pellet form and it is easier to take.  I just pour into a glass the packets, then let them slide in my throat and wash it down with water.  Traditionally Chinese break up the pellets and drink as a tea. 

I also just started going to a TCM (Traditional Chinese Medicine) doctor.  She is focusing more on my inflammation with acupuncture and cupping since acute stage has more inflammation vs. chronic and I am still in acute stage.  She thinks Xiaojin Wan is more for chronic but is ok with me upping my dose.

Today I start the 14 pills a day and I will probably switch to the pellets after the pills run out since they are easier to buy in every Pharmacy.  I am not expecting much but at the same time hopeful....I think you all know what I mean....If I see  any progress in 30 days, or until the TCM doctor says to stop...afterwards I will let you know.
Title: Re: Xiaojin Pill_Penile fibrosis reduction.
Post by: samsam on July 11, 2021, 10:39:51 AM
@howtheheck, any update mate?
Title: Re: Xiaojin Pill_Penile fibrosis reduction.
Post by: howtheheck on July 12, 2021, 04:32:44 AM
Sorry for the delay.  Absolutely no effect to date.  I am still taking the max. daily dosage.  The rats took it for 28 days, and me just a little bit longer....So I guess the only thing it proves for now is I am not a rat:)

I will tell you it is expensive (in terms of Chinese medicine) and not hard to get but the packaging comes in less than a day supply.  Also even though my TCM doctor says it is more for chronic vs. acute which is what I am still in- I am still taking it.
Title: Re: Xiaojin Pill_Penile fibrosis reduction.
Post by: Pfract on July 12, 2021, 06:40:43 PM
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Your statement is gonna look very stupid the day stem cells becomes FDA-approved and cure you. Stem cells is something that already is heavily scouted. While it's success isn't radical enough to enter the human territory, I can't help but to think some underdog country already is one step ahead. A good example is Japan, a country that seems to be 50 years ahead of the rest of the world in a lot of things.

@Godisreal: Well... fast forward a considerable amount of time and just look at "howtheheck". Doesn't seem like is results have been too favourable.
Title: Re: Xiaojin Pill_Penile fibrosis reduction.
Post by: howtheheck on July 12, 2021, 08:37:00 PM
Is a little over 1 month of taking  the medicine a "considerable amount of time" in most eyes here?  I also have doubts but I will at least give it a real try before I say that it is not worth it.  Try to stay positive -I am your guinea pig and your wallet on this experiment:)
Title: Re: Xiaojin Pill_Penile fibrosis reduction.
Post by: howtheheck on February 04, 2022, 04:25:31 PM
Just giving final feedback.  I took 3 grams twice a day up until end of December 2021.  This amount is suggested as the max but also it is not indicated for peyronies (for other fiberous issues, but not peyronies).  I saw no results so I decided to take the same amount in relation to my weight vs. what was given to the rats.  I also did so for 27 days.  I can tell you I saw no results.  I will not take this anymore.  Sorry I could not give you guys any better news.
Title: Re: Xiaojin Pill_Penile fibrosis reduction.
Post by: westerntown on February 04, 2022, 07:50:32 PM
Do not apologize. What you did was more than most. Thank you for your efforts