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Title: Verapamil or Xiaflex ?
Post by: tonyode on November 27, 2018, 12:07:51 PM
So I am scheduled to begin Xiaflex injections. Very familiar with these injections. Not so much with VERAPAMIL. My Doc didn't bring up Verapamil as an option. He did very thorough exam, ultrasound, measurements, etc, etc. My options were Xiaflex or surgery. I am sure as to how they determine which injection to use? Seems like Xiaflex is the most common to me. Does this depend on the plaque and if it has calcified or what? Curious to know more about Verapamil and why this would be used instead of Xiaflex? Thanks!
Title: Re: Verapamil or Xiaflex ?
Post by: sutty on November 27, 2018, 10:33:59 PM
Hi there.  My experience was that prior to xiaflex being available as an option, my doctor administered a series of verapamil injections to some moderate effect.  Once xiaflex became an option that became the treatment of choice.   Xiaflex for me has been much more effective.  Curious to hear from others however who might have a more informed understanding. 
Title: Re: Verapamil or Xiaflex ?
Post by: Joe19403 on November 29, 2018, 02:59:17 PM
I completed the xiaflex treatment and no change to the curve.  The hour glass did go away.
Title: Re: Verapamil or Xiaflex ?
Post by: Bubba dawg on November 29, 2018, 04:01:39 PM
How many rounds Joe?
Title: Re: Verapamil or Xiaflex ?
Post by: blackdiamond on November 30, 2018, 02:12:04 PM
Guys my understanding is that Verapamil was the choice prior to Xiaflex becoming available. I never did Verapamil and waited for Xiaflex...........
I did the entire protocol of Xia........Traction, Ved, Modeling, stretching the whole deal.............
My results were quite successful......after months of diligent work I went from a 75 degree bend to 15 degrees..........My Doc was impressed.......
Title: Re: Verapamil or Xiaflex ?
Post by: Bubba dawg on November 30, 2018, 02:32:02 PM
Wow that is good black diamond.  I am stuck at a 15 to 20 curve now. More like a kink when I stopped xiaflex. Doc didnt tell me to do traction or ved . I was at the point where I couldn't have sex when I started treatment. So I think I did pretty good too. Just didnt think xiaflex would perfect it. Maybe it would. Just dont know. Started taking l acetyl caratene today. Hopefully that will improve things even more. I am usually allergic to everything so we will see if i can keep taking it.  Congratulations on your success . No pain, no gain
Title: Re: Verapamil or Xiaflex ?
Post by: blackdiamond on December 01, 2018, 03:26:05 PM
Thanks Bubba dawg.........You had good success as well........
I must say that I worked my ass off using the Traction 5-6 hours a day.......and the VED 2x day.........
But happy w the results..........Good luck.....
Title: Re: Verapamil or Xiaflex ?
Post by: Bueller on June 12, 2019, 05:01:38 PM
Hey I went to Dr. Lue is San Fran and he said if he said something along the line that the layer of my tunica was too thin and that if I had a xiaflex injection it would swell and cause a rupture. Does that sound right? Does xiaflex cause that much swelling.

Do you think verapamil would be better? Does verapamil cause swelling?