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Hi, today I got the STAGE procedure with dr. Kuehhas. I'm the guy who had a terrible experience with Nesbit. What I can say? I can't feel the difference right now between Nesbit and Stage because the penis is swollen the same way, but this is depends on the fact Kuehhas had to some more extra work and din not just a STAGE on a never operated penis. I think this is makes the difference. In particular, after degloving Kuehhas found in front of him a lot of cicatricial tissue. He worked on it and then said to me I have to do stretch as soon as possible (probably, I guess, because I have to prevent it from appear again in that big largeness..but I Would did that anyway for gain some length back). Moreover, the 'stuff' inside was removed at all and this also because I said clearly I wanted to sacrifice all the length necessary to remove all the stuff (it needed some excisions more and therefore more loss of length). It was too much important since it was not just annoying but all the 'stuff' caused a lot of pain (burnings and so on). The last, Dr. Kuehhas is going to come in my apartment rented here  tomorrow morning to check the situation..for now I can't say anymore, it's too early. I'll keep you updated.

Hope you spend a good night and have good results from surgery, Jack.

All my best wishes for your prompt recovery.

Jack

Wish you fast recovery and excellent results.

James

Hey Jack, trying to get skype details atm cause i'm on my laptop. Mine is also very swollen and purple in the pubic area. I'm pretty sure he did the extra incision which is why mine may look worse then just the 1 incision. There is also a lump above my pube area but below my lower abs. I guess thats where the peeing tube went in or something. The only thing that hurts is when something touches my gland (my foreskin before very tight and fully covering. He's also coming to my house at around 12.
Just wondering still, is it ok to sit up or do we need to lie down.
Probable the first time 2 forum members have seen each other?
Best of luck with your recovery.

Jack, you've been brave and I think you made a good choice, stay strong we are all here for you and ready to support you or listen to your experience and feelings on this.

Hahahaha nice. Yeah probably the first time. I wish you both a marvelous recovery. And enjoy Vienna :-) Yep Steve pretty normal the purple thing. The lump you talk might be transient hematoma, the tube is inserted through the urethra. The extra sensation you notice (pain/burning/tickling,...) on the gland is tottaly normal i had that when i did the circuncision. So you are almost room mates, hehehehe.
Well my surgery was done late afternoon/night so i went to the recovery roomm then to hospital room, so i just slept till morning. Next morning there was no problem in getting up. After lunch next morning i was already going to the hotel, did dome shopping (food) and feeling quiet confident. That night i was visiting Vienna Christmas Market (through Metro) and walking with no problem. I suppose There is no problem in sitting up or a small walk but in doubt ask Dr. Kuehhas.

All the best

Quote from: Stevew87 on September 28, 2014, 05:03:15 AM

Probable the first time 2 forum members have seen each other?

Nope, I have also met others    ;)

Great thing about the surgery is i cannot masturbate for a good 6-8 weeks... i'm currently trying to get rid of porn induced ED and touching my penis is the last thing i will want to do! So i guess this is well timed. Yeah i have a hematoma Dr Franklin has got me to make my penis go more upwards and it should go away in about a week or so. The only pain i have is from my newly exposed glands. I'm hoping the tablets which stop erections work well.
Dr Franklin said he managed to fix my 45 degrees downwards curve and straighten out my right bulging and said i haven't lost more then 1cm. Which is good considering the extra incision can reduce penis length lose 5-10mm or sometimes less.

Steve be ready to have solid erections! hehehehe If i remember well after 6 weeks you will be easily aroused :-).

I just hope i don't erections when it's still healing... otherwise they will hurt! I mean i got the 21 day thing for stopping erections but... i wonder how effective it will be and if erections will still hurt after 21 days.

Guys... i had a wet dream last night. I didn't have an erection though? Is that ok?

@keepitstraight we are in London! I saw Steven just for few seconds after the surgery in front of the toilet. He very confused because of the anehstesia so we could not speak. Or better, He said something but I did not understand anything :D As I told him many times, He is lucky because he found practically the best at the first time. I had GA but I was able to walk soon and as soon as I was able to urinate I could go home. The surgery lasted three hours and half, as the doctor said to me yesterday..practically a record in fact he repeated many times how much complicated it was. He could not imagine , once made the degloving, to find that wall of scar tissue. This means also I was right, when I complained about some strange hardness. I'm happy for now. He also removed the stitches and bulging defects. It starts a new life for me, he repeated, and the only one thing I have to deal with is loss of sensation. Fingers crossed!

Thank you guys for your messages...

and Steven don't worry as I wrote you on Skype.

Just don't forget to update us Jack.
It will help others to decide to go on your way.

James

Jack anehstesia can put you really high! hahahaha (dope). I remember after i started to wake up from anesthesia i was always repeating the same phrase " all went good, all went good!?" hahahaha Dr. Kuehhas was very patient and also my mother :-) Amazing doctor. Thats good to hear Jack
Steve yeah i think its pretty normal. Give it time.

Swelling has gone down for me. But my flaccid penis seems hard and pretty bumpy. I had 2 incisions. Keepitstraight i guess this is kind of aimed at you did you have the same thing?

Steve thats absolutely normal i had that. Give it some time. No problem. :-)

Oh ok thanks! Did you do the stretches after 2 weeks which are meant to help keep it straight? If so what kind of stretch was it? Did it hurt when doing it? It's listed on my sheet of which i need to follow for my recovery.

yep thats paramount. He will explain you. You have to pull the glans axially and stretch the penis. If i remember it is 3 times a day for 3 months i think. But he will explain you. No it did not hurt at least for me.

My glans looks out of place. They seem to face more towards me instead of sticking straight out. Is that why it's needed? Hopefully by then my blood clot will have gone, i can't really have my penis down without alot of pain.

2 Pairs of pants now i've had to cut up because the material has got attached to one of my stiches. Also i now seem to have a hand rash which i think is a reaction to the amount of drug i have been taking.

Steve

As I didn't made a penis surgery (yet) I can advice just patience.
Hope you will be over those problems shortly and begin to enjoy your new tool.

James

Thanks, i just hope the bit of material that i think is still attached to my glands won't cause any kind of infection. I think i will put kitchen roll in my pants in the future so cloth doesn't get stuck, it seem it bleeds a bit and then drys and makes my glands latch on to it or something.

A little updated after 9 days. The penis is still swollen as normal. The nights are complicated, as you surely know, since the erections try to pop up, even if they are weak 'cause I'm taking some tablets that prevent from having them strong.
About my penis, is too early to claim something sure but, to be honest, it seems I feel it better touching it. Propping my finger I feel some kind of forgotten softness (remember I was full of scarring tissue), and this makes me hope.  Bye! Ciao!

Un piccolo update dopo 9 giorni. Il pene è ancora gonfio come è normale che sia. Debbo dire che le notti sono davvero complicate, come d'altra parte saprete, dal momento che le erezioni tentano di farsi vive, anche se, grazie all'azione di farmaci anti-androgeni, sono piuttosto deboli. Riguardo al mio pene, è troppo presto per affermare qualsiasi cosa con sicurezza, ma, ad essere onesti, sembra che lo senta meglio al tatto. Appoggiando il dito sento una sorta di morbidezza dimenticata (ricordate che ero pieno di tessuto cicatriziale), e ciò mi fa sperare. Ciao!

Guys, probably I'm exaggerating but I'm scared.  Yesterday night at home a girl not on purpose gave me a beat on my penis (she wanted to gave me it on the belly for joke). It was painful but I didn't hear a noise or something like that. Touching it seems that the sutures are more protruding. Probably all of this doesn't make sense since after 10 days is impossible to make some damages just for something like this and it's only my imagination. If it was not, probably after this kind of surgery we would stay closed at home for many months and do not move for the danger. Need to be ensured. Hi!

If your penis was "relaxed" i dont think there is any problem. Unless the punch was really hard. If it was a slight beat there shouldnt be any problem. But you can always look for any "new" hematoma just in case. The sutures are very hard and tight and most importantly small.

We were at home with friends and a girl slapped me on the penis, but she wanted to slap on my belly. She did not do it on purpose, she was joking (She knows my situation). Of course my penis was relaxed and it was not a punch. No hematoma. I sent a picture to Kuehhas and told me 'don't worry'. I mean, if just something like that could ruin all, the surgery would not make any sense. We should remain isolated for months.

To be honest I don't feel the sutures so small..

:-) Relax Jack everything will be fine. Um dia destes tenho que fazer uma visita a Itália.
Remain isolated, hahaha, no, just avoid stress situations, hahaha. I was so happy that after some days i was already travelling by car to our farm/winery. Yep the sutures are really small. I had 7 sutures but only could feel just one, but barely.

A little update after two weeks and some days. The penis is still swollen. I think the swelling will take more and more time than expected to vanish. This is what happens when you have had many surgeries and the last one lasted more than 3 hours. Probably I'll keep on having it for 2 months. This what I expect. For now, I can't say more than this!

@Keepitstraight Italia não merece uma visita, ficas em Portugal ou vais ver um outro pais :D Meus Deus, neste periodo estou a falar e escrever em Ingles, sò foi muito complicado escrever esta frase :D

Hi guys how mutch does this procedure cost?

Hey chef Chris,

I've done some research and asked around and it's roughly around 7000 euros for the total fees. That's the price for Austria. Doing it in London is supposed to be slightly more expensive

8000 pounds.

Ok thanks guys

Just to add on Jacks point as i had the same surgery on the same day. I haven't had any surgeries before and my penis now has no swelling (bare in mind i had a blood clot as did Jack of which are meant to be low risk), if you don't have one it shouldn't be too bad atall. so if it's your first surgery and you don't get a blood clot you could even go back to work after 3-4 days.

Jack1909 thanks for posting your experience it's really been great to read for me.

I've had the Nesbit procedure here in Melbourne Australia 3 weeks and one day ago (I'm also of Italian descent se vuoi parlare in italiano ti capisco! :) ) and I've not had results i'd say I'm happy with so the nightmare continues. You could call it a partial success but had I known this outcome i'd not have had the surgery but I was desperate to have it fixed once and for all. I had a congenital curve of i'd say 35/40 degrees left and down. I'd say it's about 15 or so % in the same direction now and i'd say it looks 1 cm shorter but it's not very noticeable it went from around 7.5 inches to about just over 7. I have all my sensation and erections are as hard and frequent as ever so the surgeon was good enough to know his way around the nerves etc.

I've not had the issues you've outlined you've had some very bad luck there, but I'm also considering coming to Europe to have the surgery corrected by Dr Kuehhas along with the bad circumcision where the shaft skin was malappositioned to where the frenulum and glans align. It was also not sutured finely enough which has left a very untidy scar (luckily I opted to keep as much of my foreskin as possible so this is a simple cosmetic fix. however not happy i have to lose a bit more of my foreskin).

I will create a post to share my experience here in Melbourne for Ozzie guys here however thank you for your post and will look forward to hearing more updates.

Personally this has been a rollercoaster for me and like pouring alcohol on an already gaping wound. I've read a lot of good experiences about Dr Kuehhas on here which is great, but i'm especially interested in your case as it's a repeat operation. STAGE to correct Nesbit which is what i'm looking at. If anyone else has had this before please do let me know esp if you've had Dr Kuehhas do the second surgery.

Thanks

Hi guys! Today I would have had the post-op consultation, but unfortunately I missed since I felt sick and I could not take the plain. Damn! I asked if this was an important lack in the way to recovery, but it not seems that. I will have a consultation on Skype in the next few days and the doctor is seeing me at the end of November. Anyway, this is how I noticed in this first month. I feel some kind of strange pain on the left side that I can not indicate where it comes from; therefore I feel some pain where the stitches are, on the right side, especially when I do exercises (stretching). Kuehhas said to me it is normal and part of recovery. The penis is still swollen but I have to repeat it again I got many surgeries so my post-op is not a normal post-op.

Ciao Dan! Se mi scrivi che posso risponderti in Italiano, colgo l'occasione al volo dal momento che il mio inglese non è un granché! Sembra che tu sia finito in buone mani, alla fine. Non hai perso sensibilità e le erezioni sono buone. Valuta se è il caso di fare un viaggio intercontinentale per risolvere un disagio che ora mi pare prevalentemente estetico, da quello che dici. Dipende da quanto ti complica la vita. Se deciderai di affidarti a Kuehhas, in ogni caso, troverai un professionista incredibile, e una persona dall'umanità indescrivibile. Ti porto qualche esempio e ti racconto che il giorno dopo viene a visitarti dove alloggi; ogni X ore ti sprona a inviargli un aggiornamento fotografico; ti risponde a un messaggio anche alle 3 di notte; se hai un problema che non riesci a risolvere arriva di corsa. In 24 anni di vita non ho mai visto nulla del genere.
Poi, da quel che leggo, hai avuto solo un'operazione. Questo dovrebbe permetterti di provare quanto la STAGE sia meno invasiva della Nesbit.
Fammi sapere se hai bisogno! Ciao

Ciao Jack! grazie per la risposta e spero che il tuo ricupero sta andando bene.
Si il mio problema e piu' uno estetico che mi porta problemi psichologici (scusa il mio italiano non e troppo corretto parlo sembre inglese qui in australia). Dico psicologici perche ci sono sempre domande quando ho relazioni di 'ma che li e successo' e mi sono scocciato di questa situazione allora sono andato per questa nesbit procedure. mi sento fortunato che non ho complicazioni perche sto a sentire molte storie d'orrore con questo nesbit. se sapevo non lo facevo per niente.

Ho parlato oggi con Dr Kuehhas ed e come dici, molto professionale e ti da molto del suo tempo e ti spiega tutto. Mi ha fatto capire che il circumcision non era stato fatto bene per niente, e che ancora c'e l'ho storto allora non e risolto bene il problema. Sono meglio di prima pero che delusione ad ancora avere una curva dopo aver subbito questa operazione.

Anche che ho avuto il nesbit solo 4 settimane fa', ha detto che non devo aspettare per fare questa correzione. Pensavo che dovevo aspettare molto mesi che questa prima operazione sia guarita completamente. Allora penso di essere in italia e austria in forse un mese per corregerre questa cazzata.

facci sapere come vai spero veramente che questa sara la fine dei problemi per te.

Looks like I'm going to London on November 29th to have Dr Kuehhas sort it out for me. Can't wait. Excited but nervous coz of my previous experience not being very good. Hope you're recovering well Jack?

A word of advice to all based on my personal experience. DO NOT HAVE THE NESBIT procedure. I don't care who does it. AVOID! It's just not worth it.

Also it is very important for anyone undergoing any kind of penis procedure.. understand the CIRCUMCISION STYLE you wish to have or the surgeon will give you one he thinks best which may result in dissapointment. My surgeon should have discussion this with me properly and helped me understand the outcomes but that did not happen. Do yourself a favour and make sure you look up circumcision styles on google! I expect a good surgeon to talk to you about this.

I've read lots of good reports of Dr Kuehhas, and he is indeed a gentleman to deal with. A much different experience from my last with the Nesbit and reading the operation outcomes for some guys it give me confidence. I'd love to hear from anyone else that is post surgery from the STAGE technique with Dr Kuehhas.

Thanks guys

Happy for you! You have made the best choice ever, for sure. Kuehhas is one of the most skillful surgeons into circulation. You will not regret at all.
About my recovery, to be honest is a little harder than I expected. I'm still very swollen and full of pain, but it seems normal according to the doctor. Yesterday I had my first daily erection and It lasted a long. After that, pain. I hope all this will mean end of problem soon but I don't know sometimes, a lot depends on my mood, I think how I could live a normal life after all happened and after the 2012's surgery, that made me a lot of problems. I hope I can feel comfortable with my penis again and don't feel it bumpy anymore in a little time. This is the most important thing that majority of people do not consider, focusing on length or other things. Feeling comfortable, that involves shape and touching is too much important.

Jack

You had the surgery at September 28, so less than  6 weeks.
As I am reading all the posts on this forum, I would say that the recovery from more complicated surgeries takes long time (4 to 6 months?) and also it is very individual.
Having a long lasting erection, even you are in pain, shows again that you had a very successful surgery.
Wish you pass this stage (pain) soon.

James

danCC, i also had the surgery and on the same day. He corrected my 45 degree angle downwards curve, also my penis bulged out on the right, hard to explain, almost looked as if it curved left too. He fully evened it, needed to do 2 incisions so i lost no more than 1cm apparently. I had to stop the erection tablets after a week and a bit due to a drug reaction. My erections have been back for a good week or 2. My penis is now 6 inches apparently although my erections are only at like 5 inches. Need to do some stretches and hopefully in a week or so it should be back to usual apparently. Dr Franklin has also told me to buy a penis extender of which in 6 months i should see 1-3cm of penis length gains. So hopefully by the end i will have a fully evened out straight penis with an extra inch in length. Fingers cross this happens.

Jack and Steve, glad to read that the procedures were successful, and may you continue recovering!!

To be honest, I don't know if the procedure was successful. It's too early and I cannot do nothing but trust Kuehhas's words.
For now, anyway, the recovery is a total disaster and I couldn't even imagine it was like this, neither it the worst nightmare. I'm swollen like a ball, I feel some suspicious pain on the left side that prevent me from climbing the stairs (the same pain as before), I cannot go out and walk around for many hours and I cannot wear tight trousers or at least trousers that fit me properly. Practically I'm blocked at home and this all is ridiculous, considering that I was born with just a bent penis, perfectly healthful. Clearly this not comes from the last surgery but that one before, but at the end of the day what changes? I feel like crap and worse than people that suffer from real sad problems and this is not acceptable. This is ridiculous, they robbed my life.

All I can suggest is bear with it and give the Dr. constant updates. He's one of the most skilled surgeons in the field, and as much as it sucks, a complicated situation such as your own may make things slightly longer and/or more difficult. It takes up to 6 months to fully recover from these procedures so it's too early to say, just do your best to bear it and stay optimistic.

Jack that will be due to the tissue he removed i'm guessing (which you probable know). I personally have no swelling what so ever anymore. I just have slight bumps where he did stitches. I mean he did incisions on the left, right and top so it won't be the curve correcting part of the surgery causing your swelling. What has he said about all of your swelling and pain? Good luck! The only thing that has saddened me is my penis is now 6 inches. Apparently my penis was 7 inches before more like 16cm... i used to be able to put 2 hands around my penis and then my head would be there. This also isn't inluding the extra cm or so that probable occured when my penis head expanded due to the very tight foreskin. I can use penis stretches though but looks like it will be a good 6 months until i'm back to 7 inches or atleast what i thought i had.

A little update after about 80 days..it looks my penis is retracted, whatever it means, and is length is ridiculous than before. Practically I started with a 'virgin' penis that was 22cm, now is 12. I have to use a device to fix this condition.
Therefore I keep on feeling a status of general numbness all over my penis and its consistence is weird (strangely hard all over, even on the top).
I also keep on feeling recurrent pain.
It looks swollen, in particular around the circumcision scar, but Kuehhas said it just skin that seem excessive because the retraction.
Ciao!

Jack

What was the length before the procedure with Dr. Kuehhas?
What he said regarding gaining back lost length?

James

Jack,

What's the explanation for losing that much length? It is advised you'll lose 1mm for every 10 degrees of curvature?

Cheers

My penis has retracted because of the surgery. I don't know how does it means technically but this is the explanation that Kuehhas gave me.
My length before the surgery with Kuehhas was about 19,5.
I'm sure about it since I checked many time...I'm not sure about the measure before started all this terrible journey, it could be even a little more, but it doesn't matter.

Jack

From what you are writing, you lost 7.5 cm following Dr. Kuehhas surgery?
Huge lost. Never read about such a lost with any kind of surgery!!!
Dr. Kuehhas technique suppose to minimize the lost, isn't?   

James

I agree James, that's what's most confusing here.

The penis is supposed to extend inwards into the body isn't it? (Or outwards depending on how you look at it)
Maybe that has something to do with the 'retraction' and it isn't length lost in the conventional sense.

Either way I hope that's sorted out for you Jack

Yes that depends on retraction, as I wrote.
Retraction has nothing to do with the technique used by Kuehhas. His technique produces a minimal length loss, retraction is a different thing even if I don't know why it popped up. Probably because my surgery lasted a lot more than normal (3 hours and 30 minutes instead of 50 minutes as normal), the swelling was practically inhuman (I would never imagined a penis could swell up that way), and so on. My penis had to undergo a very severe and huge procedure..

Anyway, Kuehhas said is a condition I can reverse..

hi guys
haven't been around for some time. life has gotten busy. i had a STAGE procedure as well... things have been straightened :)

recovery was quite fast... i guess. after 2 weeks my penis. had almost no swelling (but i never had penile surgery before), but i could feel some of the knots. dr kuehhas told me that i would feel them for 3-6 months. he used some long lasting absorbable suture material. forgot the name.
i don't feel the knots anymore... it took me almost 5 months.

i returned to my normal sex life 2 months after surgery, although i was told i could start 6 weeks after... i was a little scared as you can imagine.

@jack1909
sorry for what you had to go through... i feel bad for you. how many penile surgeries did you have? from what i read it was not your first one...
i can tell you that the penile stretching devices work, but it takes commitment and time... check the forum for some advice ...

@jack1909
the original stretching device is the JES EXTENDER... at least this is what they say... i think all the other models are similar to it. the device will do its job, though i don't think that it makes much difference whether you go for the standard model or the gold, silver or platinum model. its just an additional feature, that allows the company to charge more for their product.


i really hope this information helps you.

Tim_B
Thanks for following up with us. Is good to know that you had a good outcome with surgery. I wish there was a better way to predict surgical risk and better understand why some have such bad outcomes while others have good surgical outcomes.

Willsjr, I can respond very easily. Who goes directly to dr. Kuehhas can overcome his problem in a few months and live a normal life as should be when you have this condition...damn, it is just a bent penis. Unfortunately some people have some surgeries somewhere before going to dr.Kuehhas. Try to think of a race and its start point: people who have the first surgery with Kuehhas start from there because they have a 'virgin' penis, other people, like me, start many meters behind. I usually say also I start not from 0, but from -50 since my condition was a total mess.
What I DON'T WANT TO HAPPEN IS THAT SOMEONE FROM MY EXPERIENCE COULD JUDGE BAD DR.KUEHHAS.
I had four degloving, 2 nesbit before and the last one left my penis as I could not imagine and as even dr.Kuehhas could imagine too. He said to me it was one of the most challenging surgery he faced so far and I'm sure he was the only one could improve the situation instead of making more damages. It was a really mess in there. Bulging defects everywhere, a wall of scar tissue he had to remove and it took him a lot, a scary bridling of bundles on the left side, and so on. MY PENIS WAS DESTROYED, PLEASE DON'T FORGET THIS. MY RECOVERY IS VERY DIFFERENT FROM ANYONE HERE AND IT WILL TAKE A LOT MORE THAN NORMAL.
Unfortunately I had probably the worst penile surgery in the total world (IN ITALY)..an italian way to do things you would say, and you are totally right.

I had my first, soft, careful masturbation. I was with a girl who knows me very well and also my penis before the last surgery. Unfortunately she was speechless..my penis is practically the half of it was. 12 cm it was not a measure invented, it is real and even considering retraction I can not understand how it possible.

Jack have you been doing the stretching properly? I was 5 inches after surgery and about 6.2 inches after doing good stretching. I use rubber gloves like the ones doctors use and do 30 seconds 10 seconds rest for 5 minutes x3 a day.
Due to your swelling i doubt you would have been able to stretch it properly with it being so swollen. Due to it being swollen for so long i'm guessing it has retracted more?
What is Dr Franklin saying?
Best wishes.
Steve

@jack1909
hey mate, did you try the stretching so far? any updates on that?
you need to use the stretching device... you ll definitely gain length.


@stevew87
you have gained 1.2 inch already. great! congrats mate!

Thats not from using a penis stretcher. My correct length is 6.2 inches. It's just after surgery it retracts a bit and you need to do penis stretches (basically doing stretched flaccid and holding it).

Ok guys, good news..it seems at least. Kuehhas said what I'm experiencing it because the tunica cannot lengthen, it is not elastic but I can fix it easily using extender. He also said that the measure after the surgery was at least 17, I'm writing at least because he used it...the penis was not in a perfect erection, so probably was more. Maybe I can come back around 20 (the same as before the surgery) working hard using the extender and then the pump. Let's hope.

I mean, probably it doesn't mean so much, but maintaining a big penis after all this absurd story it would help me a lot.

Good news indeed Jack.
So the extender and VED are really working according to Dr. Kuehhas.

James

Little update after more than three months. Still a long journey in front of me..I'm working hard to tackle this hardness that prevent me from having good erections. Penis seems blocked..it will take me many months of extender.
Thus I have the same pain I had before the surgery in that point between the penis basis and the pubis, where there is a suture stuck that the doc couldn't remove..I don't know what I can do but I have to do something since the pain goes from morning till night and painkillers don't work. And,moreover, i cannot think of taking painkillers forever.
The absurd story continues...Soon or later I will have a call with Stephen King to discuss about writing a book about it :D

What Dr. Kuehhas says about the pain? Did you asked him about?

James

It's simple. The pain is caused by that big suture stuck at the basis. It pushes against the pubis and the pain irradiates on it. It's clearly inflamed, touching it I feel a big burning. Kuehhas said to me he had to choose. I'm not sure but probably he meant I was open from too much time so he had to choose what was better doing first. After that it was passed more than 3.30 hours and He decide it was enough.. don't know for sure.

Jack

You should be in touch with Dr. Kuehhas in my opinion.
He should give a solution for this pain. Maybe an additional "small" surgery to take out the sutures?

James

I'm in touch with him and I will have a consultation in a few days. Is there any other way to remove a suture?..I don't guess so..

Jack

Important to hear what Dr. Kuehhas have to say.
I don't know if have other possibility than surgery to take out the suture, but I think it supposed to be a very simple surgery, depends on the location.
All those are speculations, lets wait to Dr. Kuehhas opinion.

James

Quote from: Jack1909 on December 22, 2014, 07:09:19 PM
Ok guys, good news..

Hey Jack... great to read that things are getting better for ya!

I've been to London and back and it's been 5 weeks and 4 days since the surgery with Dr Kuehhas. It's my second surgery which was to correct the crap job the first guy did here in Australia (He literally said oh my god when he saw the work done). I can't imagine what your multiple surgeries were like coz a second one is hell to go through. MUCH slower healing the second time round... I believe i'm even experiencing retraction because Dr Kuehhas said i lost under a cm only and it looks much shorter than it was. I see other guys have experienced it also from whats written here so that's relaxed me a bit that it can be addressed with an extender.

One of the worst parts has been the Androcur tablets. It kills your testosterone completely. It's certainly done it's job, and too well. After almost 6 weeks i'm only starting to get erections now and they're no where near as powerful as they were before.
After speaking to my doctor I found out Androcur is stored in fat tissue and I will have significant plasma levels for two weeks after I stop taking it. Plus it has a half life of up to 96 hours which means it will take 20 days to get out of my system completely. Even if you have testosterone treatment it will block any testosterone you produce so you have to wait there is no choice. So if anyone is wondering, no erections for 20 days after it. So don't panic like I did.

The healing is going very well however i have many thick lumps which are slowly going down. after 6 months it should all be completely gone as the degradeable sutures last that long. It's still early for me so I feel noticeable inflammation and lumps.
Also i've only stopped bleeding a few days ago. It's taken 5 weeks for the hematoma to drain out. Glad that's stopped now.

I have asked Dr Kuehhas when it's safe to start using an extender as i'm keen to start using one as the retraction has me freaking out a bit. I used a JES extender years ago and i found it to be painful to use with the silicone tubes etc and in the end i threw it out as rubbish. This time round i saw the penismaster pro with the suction mechanism which looks much more comfortable so I can wear it at least 4 hours a day. If anyone has had experience with the suction mechanism like with the penismaster pro please let me know.

Hope everyone that's been through this surgery is progressing well.

I was suggested to buy it Penis Stretcher Products & Natural Penis Enlargement without Pills (http://www.autoextender.com/internationalorder.html)
more more comfortable than the normal that 'kills' your glans.

I looked at that page. it looks like the junk one i bought a while back the JES extender. even same contraption on the glans which was very uncomfourtable. have a look at the penismaster pro. more expensive but i've spent enough cash so far to skint out on something i have to use daily. might buy it tonight i think. the rehab for this is a bit of a long road at 6 months + and this is just one of the steps. I'm even considering lazer treatment to remove the scarring once thats healed up properly and the swelling has subsided from my foreskin.

I have a big dilemma Jack.
From one side, links to commercial websites are not allowed on the forum, except very rarely when a global moderator or administrator are approving it.
From the other side, it may be some good products with affordable prices.
Bothering me also the remarks (in red, the original) at the end of the page!!!   

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The AutoExtender (known as maker) accepts NO responsibilities or claims, both expressed or implied, and will not be liable for safety or efficacy of our products, whether or not products were used as intended or not. You and only you are responsible for any risks.

James

I bought a Andropenis package. It comes with like padding you can put around the pipe you strap around your glans. Haven't tried it on yet but will do soon. Did yopu buy the JES extender with any comfort tools?

hey jack, that sounds awful. i think james is completely right in saying you should see him.
how is the stretching going? any betterment?

yours
tim

It's early it will take more time before saying if I will have improvements with extender. Moreover I have problems with the most known and used package of it. Every time the glans slides away and I have to put it on many times. It's a mess and it's going me bananas. I bought the version posted below and a guy told me it's more more comfortable and easy to dress. Let's see.

About the stitch-suture, I'm meeting Kuehhas on Tuesday in Wien and we are going to talk even about it for sure. To be honest I knew it was difficult but I expected at least not feeling pain, reached this point. Instead..
And I expected to be able to masturbate..3 months passed and I feel I'm about to explode.

Jack

Don't forget to update us after you see Dr. Kuehhas.

James

Came back yesterday from Wien. The recovery seems going well. About the stitch at the basis probably is inflamed and rounded by a superficial fibrosis. I'll try some medications suggested me but the only way to remove it is surgery. The medications should tackle even the neuropathic pain (for the doc I'm even suffering from it).
Moreover, as I already knew (but hearing it again it's very destructive), the penis is half-dead since the italian 'surgeon' cut the nervous terminations.
At the end of the day, to have a good sensation I have to wait when we'll be able to restore damaged nerves (10-20 years? :D)
But, If i will achieve some things as no pain, straight penis, normal and natural feeling by touching, pleasing erections..if every single thing about my penis will come spontaneous and natural and I will feel comfortable maybe I will be able to have a normal life.

Jack

You have written:

QuoteI have to wait when we'll be able to restore damaged nerves (10-20 years?

Wish you in a few months :)

James

'in a few months' is fantasy..fantascienza we call it here. Bad story.

Jack, we are saying fantezie in my language, but don't forget Cinderella, Snow White, Shrake, etc' ;D
Sometimes it comes true.

James

To be honest, it's already quite known the fact that peripheral nerves are able to grow back. The question was about central system nerves. It was believed they couldn't grow back..at least until last year when a man could not walk underwent a innovative surgery in London. Now he can walk again. So why right now we don't have a way to rebuild native sensation in our penis?

little update

Things are getting better. The penis is becoming flat even if it will takes a lot yet. I think the recovery in cases as mine is very very longer than normal. I expected it but not this way. Probably one year or something like that. The retraction is breaking up day by day: I still feel the tunica very hard but it will soften soon. Maybe at the end of the day I'm going to feel my penis mine again. It's hard feeling to explain since I don't know how many guys experienced what I got through. Anyway, no more annoying and strange feelings, no more worrying for erections or for penis consistence..it would be a big achievement. Let's keep on.

Good to read your update Jack.
Especially:

Quote...no more annoying and strange feelings, no more worrying for erections or for penis consistence..it would be a big achievement.

:)

James

Yeah James, It's taking a lot but at the end of the day I will live the life I've always dreamt..a normal life. I'm sure about it, and Kuehhas has never had any doubt.

Has anybody had surgery for cogenital curvsture at London Anrology institute? Any feedback?

Cc111070

I deleted your other post, similar to your post bellow. Read the forum rules regarding posting.
Regarding your question, make a search on the forum for Dr. Kuehass. You will get 51 posts, a lot of information connected to your question.
You may also want to read the posts on this topic as the subject is exactly on your question.

James

I think it's the place where Kuehhas works..it's not? Contact Kuehhas. He is the best one you can find.

Thanks Jack.. looking to have an operation with him next month to sort out a 40 degree ventral curve, he seems like a nice guy.. Everybodya got good reviews about him..

Had a consultation yesterday. Recovering is going on and I got better in terms of sensation. He made me the test he usually makes to value it. Last time could not feeli anything in the left side and now I feel. Very good news.
Bad news is the fact the curvature is always there. My opinion is, considering the fact curvature is not a natural curve but unnatural and angled, the reason depends on the old suture and superficial fibriosis round that area, in fact it bends right there. It practically acts as a fibrotic plaque and its strength curves the penis. No matter how much sutures I put in the other side to balance it, because it's stronger and wins the battle. It needed to be removed but Kuehhas couldn't. Anyway I'm quite convinced that I can fix the curvature using the new drug about to be approved (my fibrosis is superficial) and traction.

Jack

Good to read your news :).
Continue to keep us updated.

James

Yeah I'll do it James.
I read many experiences and it seems that Xiaflex is very useful to break up indentations and angled curves made by fibrosis. The same to traction. Really hope at the end I will have my penis straight..

Big improvements in the last ten days. I have been taking Cialis to ossigenate the tissues and because it is very useful to break the retraction up. In fact, my retraction step by step is fading away. Incredibly, I'm starting to feel the penis by touching quite well, and maybe it will ends up that I will feel it as before the disastrous 2012 surgery. If were this way, it would be a great achievement. Inside my penis there was everything.

About sensation, it was amazing feeling the cold of my extender left rod when I put it on, some day ago. Remind that I could not feel cold and hot on that side. So, very good news also here.

About indentation. It's getting better. The penis is already almost straight.

Things are improving a lot, and this proves how much incredible is dr. Kuehhas. My condition was a disaster, most of surgeons would have not accepted to 'open' me. The risk to worsening things instead of getting better it was very high. He told me to stick to his plan. I will achieve everything and I will live a normal life. The life I've never lived. Let's hope!

All the best Jack.  Good for you..

Great News Jack1909!!

So happy for you Jack!
All the best!

Wish you continue with the improvements. :)
It seems that Dr. Kuehass is really the best available in Europe :)

James

Thank you guys!
It takes me a lot of work but I see the top of the hill I have been climbing at least.
One thing worries me most: sensation. Even if it's getting better on the shaft and I expect to gain it back, on the glans I cannot feel almost anything and I don't know how I can fix it. To exclude that the problem there depends on keratinization of the glans, I'm about to start to cover it with a kind of fake foreskin. It will invert, day by day, the process and at the end of the day we will see on what depends my loss of sensation there. Hope I don't have to undergo some clinical or experimental therapies (in case of nerve damage).

Just for report all about my condition, I'm still 4.5 cm less than I used to be.

Jack1909

In my opinion you should do anything not coordinated with Dr. Kuehass.

James

A little update, the bad things still remained
- sutures were supposed to go away at this time, but they are still there. Kuehhas told me don't worry about it, sometimes they take a little more but they absorb at the end. I'm worried...
-I'm waiting for use Xiaflex, since the big suture at the basis it's painful and surrounded by fibrosis. Kuehhas said he wants to treat it conservatory but I fear I will end up to undergo another surgery.
It's very painful and the fibrosis produced nearby an indentation that curves my penis unnaturally..now, it seems crazy but sometimes my penis looks like straight (with an indentation on the left side) and sometimes in the same point it looks like it curves. I don't know what's going on down there.
Let's see. It's very annoying anyway. Hope Xiaflex will destroy the indentation.

My sutures haven't gone away either. My penis is dead straight but it kind of sticks out on the left side. They tried evening it out which they did pretty well but not perfectly but it's still looking pretty good.

Jack

The suture you are talking about is from the surgery at September 28, 2014?
If yes, is almost 7 months, very long time for a suture to go away.
My sutures from bladder surgery were all gone by the mark of 4 months, usually they should go after 2 months more or less.
Can you perform sexually after the surgery?
I think before you are going on with Xiaflex you should recover completely from the surgery.
I was making a list with the issues before/after the surgery to asses better your benefit/not benefit from the surgery.
It is Dr, Kuehass that will make you the Xiaflex treatment also?

James 

Hi Steve

The lifespan at a minimum for the internal STAGE sutures is 6 months, so it will probably go defo in about 2 months tops.  Are your erections pain-free at this stage?

From my understanding the STAGE internal sutures need to be there for 6 months + so that fibrosis can take place in the tunica, i believe this is callus, so that penis can naturally be straight when the sutures dissolve.  You would not want the sutures to dissolve prematurely before callus/fibrosis takes place as this could lead to re-curvature.. i believe this is correct.

Erections have been pain free for a long time. After about 4 weeks from the operation. I have found however after ejaculating my penis is sore but this has reduced over time. I think your right there it is often a good 6 months plus. Even if they didn't dissolve they are a lot less prominent... i wasn't actually sure myself if i still had them until my last meeting with Dr Franklin about a month ago confirmed that they are still there but he said they will go.
Do you think once they disolve my penis will fully straighten out in the sense of the odd stick out on the sides along the shaft.

Just to add i do sort of also have an indention. My penis on the left side sticks out a bit at the middle... then kind of goes inwards then right at the bottom of the base it stick out a bit. I mean it's not too much of a problem sex functioning wise but it would be good if it did even out. I have been using penis traction which Dr Franklin said should help.

I could have sex but I wanted to feel comfortable again with my penis first. This is the biggest problem about congenital curvature. If you don't fix it soon all the psychological problems related to it become little by little a huge mountain. So considering how much I'm psicologically unstable, I decided to feel comfortable before starting my sexual life..but I have to admit this would not happen soon. Ok, sutures will go away sooner or later but fibrosis in the first part of the shaft on the left side makes my penis stiff, hard as a wall and painful (very painful) in the moment I grip it and I put pressure on the big stitch. This brings me down since in the rest part of the penis kuehhas did a great cleaning job and I can feel it very natural. To all this must be added the indentation. Fibrosis, big stitch, and indentation don't allow me to feel my penis mine and comfortable again.
So James, yes, kuehhas will perform xiaflex treatment on me in about two months, he wants to wait a little but I will do it. At the moment I can say that the kuehhas's work has been great but it's still incomplete.

Making a list about surgery:
-all the old stitches removed
-bulging defects removed
-fibrosis (I had a sea of fibrosis) removed all over except in that point descripted below
-feeling at the touch very good where the fibrosis has been removed (once the new stitches will be absorbed I consider the feeling will be even better)
-sensation's back on the left side (depending on kuehhas work, probably a nerve was blocked)

Things to fix:
- absorb of new stitches
- big stitch close to the basis (very painful)
-curvature/indentation/ fibrosis..in that point.


I wonder if it was possible to remove the stuff remained inside making a little excision from the bottom..it's placed neither a cm from the pubis (when the penis is down).

So Jack, you have a lot of reasons to smile :) or even a bigger smile like this ;D
I wish I could get to the point (financially) that I can go in your way with Dr. Kuehass. :)

James

It's hard to smile

(And I lost 5cm )

Jack

When I wrote you should smile, I meant because of the results you got with Dr. Kuehass. From reading your posts.
Of course is very very bad to have 5 surgeries and don't have any reason to be happy about!!!

James

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The best of luck dont give up hope.

Ok, I'm still here. In about 10 days I'll have a Xiaflex injection. I'm quite confident and I expect very good results since my condition is different from who usually undergoes it. I have no plaque, just big a fibrotic indentation. I'll also ask Kuehhas for the new out coming stell cems treatments to reverse fibrosis and heal ED. Someone wrote here he is working with a group from Denmark, let's see if it's true.


Just a curiosity, I have been starting to cover my glans (I was circumcised many year ago during the first Nesbit I had) and just in two weeks my sensation has improved. In my opinion, as I told many times, the negative effects of being circumcised are still largely underrated by the scientific community. In some men keratinization process is so huge that practically destroys any type of erogenous/sexual sensation. At least, this what I think. I regret tremendously the day I let me circumcise.

Having had the consultation on Wednesday.
The stitches are still there but less protruding and eventually they will be absorbed. Let's hope since I thought somehow my compromised tissues down there had lost the ability to absorb sutures, but I was reassured about it. Let's hope.
I know, anyway, I will eventually undergo a procedure to take the old stitch remained away. This something that needs to be done since the pain that provokes is too annoying. 24h pain that interferes with my activities is unacceptable. But, I want to get rid of the curvature first. So we wrote down a 'conservative' line attack to tackle it.
- prp plus HLA. I got in touch with dr. Virag and probably I will in Paris very soon.
- xiaflex with dr kuehhas
- stem cells. Kuehhas is about to get me in touch with that one Denmark group.

That's all. In my opinion I will not live a normal life until my tissue down there will be regenerated.

Jack

Sorry that your results from the stage technique surgery are not what you was expecting.
Please continue to update us how is going forward.
Please don't forget to update us also in the subjects you  are mentioning:

Quote- prp plus HLA. I got in touch with dr. Virag and probably I will in Paris very soon.
- xiaflex with dr kuehhas
- stem cells. Kuehhas is about to get me in touch with that one Denmark group.

Many forum members are interested in the subject.

James

I really think ur a strong guy Jack.. stronger than me thats for sure...  hang in there man...

Thank you guys, I'm strong but honestly my life has been completely destroyed. It's not supposed to be like this at 24, but I have no choice than stick with it. I'm still young and I will do whatever I can do to enjoy at least the second part of my twenties. My biggest hope is that I don't have a plaque, I have just fibrotic tissue and maybe this could be easier to treat conservatively.
In a couple of day I'm going to get in touch with that Denmark group and I will report everything. I'm sure that stem cells, if done well by skillful people able to manage them, can offer the best solution to us, in a little time.

Jack1909:

Just wanted to add my 2 cents to the mix about your Peyronies Disease problem at the early age of 24. I too ''acquired'' this horrible mess called Peyronies Disease at the age of 24. However, the time frame for mine was in the 1950s. There were no known ''cures/remedies" then for Peyronies Disease. The only remedy was this:  "take vitamin E in heavy dosages, wait 6 months and come back".  As we now all know Vitamin E does very little toward helping with Peyronies Disease symptoms.

I will turn 86 this September and as now I have very little, if any, symptoms of Peyronies Disease. Many trials and errors for therapy in my case have gone under the bridge of life. Believe you me, I know how you are feeling at the moment, but you have to get into some form of therapy ASAP.

Each and every case of Peyronies Disease along with any resulting ED must be treated separately. There is not ''set'' means of one size fits all for Peyronies Disease therapy. Each case has to be treated differently and that must be determined separately.

So, you need to determine a method of therapy, follow it long enough to see if it works, if not then move on to another method. I used one method at a time to make sure that I knew which one ''did the job'' or recovery from Peyronies Disease. It took several trials before finding the right one.

Old

I want to concur with the "old Man's" advice on therapy....I have been doing VED therapy now 5-6 times a week for 15min per session, for the past year and the results have been outstanding...I now am on a maintenance schedule of 3 times a week for 15min...Try and remember this is a marathon...not a sprint race to treat Peyronnes...But if you keep at your therapy which is usually a combination of meds and VED therapy, I believe you will see positive changes..Hang in there..we've all or are in the same boat...Good Luck to you...

I really appreciate each of the comments, I'll try whatever and more. Thank you.

qcswral: may i ask what do you mean by outstanding progress?

Hi everyone.I've been a long time stalker on this forum and just want to say a big thanks to everyone here who helped me make the decision to have stage surgery for my 45 degree left congenital curve with Dr kuehhas in Vienna.it's been five months since the surgery and I must say everything about the surgery has been really good for me.I experienced very little pain post surgery and the recovery has been really good with the guidance of Dr kuehhas and his team.I will also add that if anyone is having deflated glans as well to let him know before the surgery as I did.turns out I had three veins draining my glan instead of two....Dr kuehhas  knowing this prior to the surgery removed one of the veins and what an improvement it made😆.the only complication I'm having is I still can't achieve a full  erection as it seems blocked or something.I've been using a penis stretcher and have regained pretty much all my length back but I have noticed a very prominent blood vessel that runs through the sutured side of the penis that has only been present post surgery.could this maybe the blockage?just wondering if anyone has experienced this and how they overcome it.

PJC80;

Send a message to Franklin. I had my surgery with him - Egydio technique - back 8 months ago. I'm now pretty much 90% healed. I did have some trouble getting a full erection for a while, but that seems to have disappeared now.

I think the problem is that recovery time is individual. For me, this has taken longer than I expected. I'm perfectly 'usable' but still not quite 100%. I do however feel that I am slowly getting back to pretty much exactly what I was pre Peyronies.

But send a whatsapp message to Franklin, he will respond even if it takes a couple days.

Hey jonbinSpain thank you for your reply.glad to hear everything is going well with your recovery👍I did what's app dr kuehhas but not sure he understood what I meant but I will message him again.just wanted to know if anyone else experienced the same thing or not.when you say your still not one hundred percent in what department would that be considering you have regained full erections?

Yes, my erections are pretty much back to normal. Size wise I'm still down 1-1.5 cm, but carrying on with the Phallosan.

I still have a sensitive area around where the incision point is. It's not too bothering, but I wish it would go away. If it's not gone by next month, I'll be in London anyway, so I'll ask Franklin if I can come in and see him.

JonbinSpain;

Can't wait to get full erections back.got my size back with phallason also but didn't really loose much to start with.like you said individual variables.well hope you get back to one hundred percent and thank you for your input👍

No problem, man. I would still contact Franklin and tell him exactly how you see it. It may be that you need something like Cialis to give you that extra bit of blood flow. Even if it's only temporary.

I did try 5mg of cialis before bed but I got intense back pain from it.they're 2.5 mg tabs so will give that a go and see if anything changes.

I totally forgot about this place until someone just messaged me..

I had a procedure with Dr Kuehhas in November 2014. He fixed a botch job that Dr Love did here in Melbourne Australia which destroyed my penis pretty much.
I had someone ask if they'd reccommend Dr Love. NO! Avoid like the plague. Run in the opposite direction for your penis' life!! I am not kidding.

If it wasn't for Dr Kuehhas.. I'd have been in trouble and with a worse penis that i'd started with. Now, 2 and half years later i have had an amazing outcome.. he gave me the shape I always wanted exactly as I described to him. And it all functions even better as he removed an excess vein so i have even harder and longer erections (thanks Dr Kuehhas!!!). But because of Dr Love's bad technique, I lost 1.5 inches when his bad work was corrected, which could have been avoided. My healing time was also extended a lot with the trauma of 2 surgeries.

I have to say that after my experience I cannot reccomend Dr Kuehhas enough. I'd even lost my foreskin and he gave it back to me amazingly because without it my penis was going numb and losing sensation. It was horrific! So if you get the chance to keep your foreskin, or have it modified but still covering most of your glans, do it. As Jack said on here, the desensitisation is not a nice experience if you've been uncut your whole life. If you've been cut, then nothing to worry about.

My advice; do not be scared to travel and that it'll cost a bit more than a local dr due to british currency and travel expenses. It is 100% worth it. I've not thought about how my penis used to be with congenital curvature and the hell I went through with that melbourne dr for what seems forever now and it's the best feeling ever. So if you're reading this.. save your money and go and do it properly with Dr Kuehhas. I really hope this helps some of you local boys make the right decision.

Hi PJC80,

I didn't know anything about 'deflated glans'.. I didn't realise that was a thing until I read your post so thank you. Dr Kuehhas let me know after the surgery that he removed an excess vein and i have to concur with you that it made a hell of a difference. I get comments about how hard my dick is now which is great! lol .. It wasn't bad before but it's just extreme rigidity after his work on it. I think if he see's that during surgery he sorts it out anyway so for all reading this you are in very good hands!

Quote from: PJC80 on August 06, 2016, 10:13:39 PM
Hi everyone.I've been a long time stalker on this forum and just want to say a big thanks to everyone here who helped me make the decision to have stage surgery for my 45 degree left congenital curve with Dr kuehhas in Vienna.it's been five months since the surgery and I must say everything about the surgery has been really good for me.I experienced very little pain post surgery and the recovery has been really good with the guidance of Dr kuehhas and his team.I will also add that if anyone is having deflated glans as well to let him know before the surgery as I did.turns out I had three veins draining my glan instead of two....Dr kuehhas  knowing this prior to the surgery removed one of the veins and what an improvement it made😆.the only complication I'm having is I still can't achieve a full  erection as it seems blocked or something.I've been using a penis stretcher and have regained pretty much all my length back but I have noticed a very prominent blood vessel that runs through the sutured side of the penis that has only been present post surgery.could this maybe the blockage?just wondering if anyone has experienced this and how they overcome it.

It seems most members here have good reviews about dr.Kuehhas, while on phalloboards people say he's no good without explaining why. Has anyone had experience with what he calls the MOST technique? I seems that it would make your penis larger in a way I have not seen in any other surgeries, but I don't know anyone who had it done nor can I can find reviews about it online.

hi popopo,

I had a look on the forum you're mentioning out of curiosity. Seems like the person not recommending him is a person that only had an 'initial consultation' and hasn't had the experience of a surgery. sounds more like a mentally ill person honestly than someone to even remotely take seriously. If it wasn't for Dr Kuehhas i'd not have my current quality of life in that department and i'd be a depressed and self conscious mess. The work he did to correct very bad surgery i thought was quite impressive. Not only that he more than fixed my initial issue.

I've not heard about the 'MOST technique'.. I tried to find an official publication about that and couldn't (if you have a link or search term that'd easily bring that up?)

I had surgery with for my congenital curve, already had one surgery on the NHS to fix this, but the curve came back.

I will say Dr Kuehhas after care is second to non compared to the NHS, but I still had a curve after the second surgery (not as bad though).
I also had ED issues form the first surgery and Dr Kuehhas said we would sort them out, after my penis is straight.

But due to the added cost of these options Scerothreapy or Shockwave therapy, I had to pass and go back to the NHS for an implant.
Also if you want to read bad things about Dr Kuehhas, read about men's experience of Scerothreapy surgery on FT.

I had a Most technique done with my implant, but they called it the sliding technique.
I put a post up on FT about my experience, but I do need to update it.

I'm now due to have one more operation to try and sort out my soft glans issues, a vein ligation surgery.

If you have any questions about The sliding technique read my post on FT (not sure if I can post a direct link?) and then ask anything your not sure on.

redbullmaster

I read your topic on FT, thank you :)
The last update was at Oct 03, 2016.
Can you give us an update how are you now?
The length fully inflated, the plumbing issues, pain, etc'
Did you try it out already?  :)

James

Hi James,

Still have the same issues with plumbing, pain is now gone.
Length is about 17cm with out glans engorgement.

Due to have vein ligation surgery in march to try and fix the glans.

Not used it due to the glans and acceptance issues I'm still having with my penis.
At this time, even if the glans are fixed not sure if I will use it with a woman.
But those issues are next on my list to resolve.

Surgeon said he wont fix my plumbing issues, not happy about it.
But cant afford to go private again.

Regards

redbullmaster

redbullmaster

Thanks for the answer
I would like to say something regarding to try it with a woman.
I was 18 cm before Peyronies, strait like arrow, good girth and good erection at the age of 61.
I had an accident during rough sex, got Peyronies and ED.
After all the treatments I have done, almost everything except Xiaflex and implant, I am 13 cm and can achieve an erection just with the use of Viagra, also not for long time.
I was making an implant, can't afford it financially. I wish I had the possibility.
Also my age is now 69, I am active sexually, learned to enjoy what I have.

You must make an effort and take out this obsession of size from your head, how beautiful the penis should be, etc'
Penises come in many shapes and sizes!
The most important thing for most woman that the erection will last enough long that they can be satisfied
Take seriously this advice from an old man with some experience during his life :)

James

I completely agree with James and Oldman

Quote from: popopo on February 20, 2017, 09:22:03 AM
It seems most members here have good reviews about dr.Kuehhas, while on phalloboards people say he's no good without explaining why. Has anyone had experience with what he calls the MOST technique? I seems that it would make your penis larger in a way I have not seen in any other surgeries, but I don't know anyone who had it done nor can I can find reviews about it online.

Just some..since the surgery done by Kuehhas I'm in constant and lingering pain, I cant even sleep at night..I'm like a vegetable. It must happened something very grave to the neurovascular bundle, since I'm affected either when I defecate so the link is pretty clear. I honestly regret every single moment I spent with him, I mean, if a guy who is still in his twenties stops caring about sexual life and starts to think about getting amputated pain must drove him crazy.

Things turned out to be catastrophic from the very beginning btw. I thought I was clear on how much important was to remove a massive stitch I had because it went me nuts, but I woke up after the surgery and the answer to my question "did you remove it?" was "no, we decided to treat it conservative way". More than two years later, I'm still waiting for a clear answer to this. At that time, his and my parents managed to calm me down (I tried to be positive on the comments here as well). I forced myself to wait and see. At least I thought I had my deformity fixed..but I couldn't be wronger. Worried, I sent many pictures to show that the deformity was still there and after a while I decided to schedule another appointment as it looked (he said) that pictures did not show properly if there was a curvature or not. In the end I had to travel up and down trough Europe, from my hometown to London/Wien many times, at least 4/5. 4/5!! I don't how many of you try it out but it takes a huge physical and mental effort (I'm still recovering from that)...and it takes 20000 euros as well, among surgery flights hotels food and so on.
However after 2/3 conulstations he acknowledged (!!) the penis was deformed the same way it was before, 45 50 degrees towards left. He didn't tell me why because no one of the stitches ruptured, but I'll tell you. The massive stitch pulls towards left and some stitches on the opposite side are not enough to keep it straight, they don't have enough force. In fact no one of them broke, they just leaned along with the structure. If the curvature is where the massive stitch is you should not do anything if you can't remove...newbie mistake from Kuehhas.

So I ended up like this, with a deformed penis, a huge amount of cm less and the new company of a massive neuropathic and inflammatory pain. The funny thing he is still proposing me a surgery to see if he can remove that big stitch, but with no guarantee. He doesn't know if he can; he doesn't know why he did not remove it two years ago, in fact my question is still unanswered.

Kuehhas is a good surgeon, I can't pretend to do not see those people are happy with him, but my experience was something beyond the edge of reality. Something beyond me. I waited a lot before posting the all story as I did not want to influence anyone but it's time to say the truth. And the truth is kuehhas was awful with me. I wish I never met him and in general I wish I never had any straightening surgery as before 2012 I had a life and now I'm a vegetal.

Jack

Thanks for posting your story.
Before posting, everyone here considered Dr. Kuehhas a demigod.
At least people will have a second thought before going under the knife with him (or any other else for the subject)

James

I did it for the reason you wrote. He is a good surgeon and I followed myself some guys who are satisfied. On the other hand he is very young, maybe too much and he lacks for experience.

jack1909 sorry for bad outcome, it is unfortunate to see that you not happy. you have had many surgeries before dr kuehhas. 4 or 5 is this correct?

Dr kuehhas fixed my curvature with stage technique. i am over 1 year since surgery. i am happy with result and happy with dr k. but i have never had surgery before him.
i think your case is very sad and maybe impossible to correct. but you should not give up. try some other doctor then. maybe it will help.

I had just one straightening surgery done in 2012...a Nesbit. Before this I had 2 surgery but neither of them was a Nesbit, just a useless degloving. By the way prior to 2012 I was with no problems. The botched surgery of 2012 certainly made things more difficult but what I'm complaining about is..mostly the pain. Pain that I did not have so much before kuehhas surgery and some news that popped up.

Kuehhas cannot be defended in my case..the strategy was not smart at all and I had to explain him why the surgery failed rather than the contrary. That's ridiculous. The truth he is just 33, not experienced enough to treat complex cases.

The thing that freaks me out the most is the absence of explanations, or, worse, the confused answers he gave me: first he told me he did it not remove it as they were running out late with the anesthesia, then because it's close to the neurovascular bundle, the last time he came out saying it was because a big arteria passing by...
The result is I don t have any idea of what's going on down there. Do you think it's normal? He saw it with his own eyes...I deserve an explanation. No mention that a doctor who says thousand of different things looks like he doesn't have any idea of what he talks about...

It's not a matter of being happy. I totally put any sexual activity apart. I got troubles if I poop...it's not about happiness. I have a ring that chokes the part below the glans every time I put a little pressure on it (not just when I poop, when I bend down to tie my trainers up, and so on).

It wasn't like this before this surgery and that's all. Don't think I'm one of those guys who go bananas spending all the time to check his penis, watching if it get erect, how much it stays like this, if the bent has worsened and so on. I'm not like this, I've not seen my penis erected for months right now. And I have pain 24h per day even if I don't touch it.

In the end if I had stayed home now I would have less pain, more energy, more money. Terryfing experience.

Quote from: DanP on February 27, 2017, 06:50:19 PM
jack1909 sorry for bad outcome, it is unfortunate to see that you not happy. you have had many surgeries before dr kuehhas. 4 or 5 is this correct?

Dr kuehhas fixed my curvature with stage technique. i am over 1 year since surgery. i am happy with result and happy with dr k. but i have never had surgery before him.
i think your case is very sad and maybe impossible to correct. but you should not give up. try some other doctor then. maybe it will help.

Stage technique didn't fit my case...it's obvious and every skilled surgeon would understand it just in a couple of minutes. And what a coincidence I was proposed by him to do a plication after the stage failed...who knows, if my choice had been different now I would have some sort of life. I did not ask too much at all, I got to a big compromise, just wanted the pain to stop and maybe the chance to masturbate once in a while..but I did not accomplish. I regret every single moment the day I chose him.

Jack1909 that is sad. I hope you become healthy again. Your case is unfortunate but many including me have had good experience with dr Kuehhas. He is a very good surgeon in my eyes and he helps everytime possible. It is unfair to blame him for the other bad surgeries. He has not helped you but we all know we have risk when we go for surgery.
Maybe modern treatment like stem cell will help you. Maybe you go back to him and ask for help?
Good luck jack1909

Nono, wait. It's perfectly fair blaming him for this surgery. I always told kuehhas is a good surgeon but in my case he made a real mess and it's fair and right to tell it. I don't why it looks like he is untouchable in here..I did not offended. I just pointed out what happened in my opinion: he made grave multiple technical errors.

Hello Jack,

I am really sorry for what happened to you and I believe that only someone who had a similar experience would understand. I also suffered and saw no hope and even thought about suicide. I had to live with an unusable penis for 10 years and I spent the last two years of my life in hell after my first surgery failed. But I don't know why I always believed that things would change one day. After the first surgery, I ended up with a shorter, bent, indented, painful, sutured and funny-looking penis that couldn't be used for anything at all. I lost all my savings, I was not doing well at work and I was avoiding close friends and family. I thought that I was done with life at an early age of 25.

But all this time, I knew deep inside that this was not the end. I came here and started looking and reading and talking to people and saving money and took a greater risk by doing a second surgery. It went well and I am fine today. I won't talk about the details of the second surgery because it's not relevant, but all I want to say is that there will always be a solution. We are humans after all and we shouldn't blame ourselves for things that we can't control.

I am not an expert and I am not in a position to tell you what the next steps should be. But I too lived in the dark for a while and didn't see any hope. Now I am fine. And I hope that you will be fine too. I also hope that you don't see this as another you-will-be-fine post. I can relate.

I agree with scorpion22 we should stay positive and find solution. There is always soltion. Stay positive jack1909.

I would just add that my personal experience with Dr Kuehhas has been largely positive. I had Peyronies to a stage where my penis was sexually unusable. He fixed that, and although I'm not 100% back to what I was, I'm 90+%.

I also know of one other member here  who I've been in contact with through P.M. His first surgery was unsuccessful and the curvature returned. Dr Kuehhas has now offered to do the surgery again without charge.

I think we need to understand that ANY surgery to such a delicate, complex part of the male anatomy carries significant risks with it. That's why it's always considered the last resort here. I went down that road because there was nothing left to lose. For me, and many others, it's worked out. But there will be failures with any surgeon, no matter how good.

Jon we know you think kuehhas is good and I think it as well. Posting all over like you do makes me wonder if you are advertising him. I know he has a lot of shadow advisors, probably one for each country..
I'm not saying you are but if you don't want to be misunderstood..

Btw kuehhas is good but in my case he wasn't. As I wrote many times it's not about the surgery skills but about the strategy fit to my case. Totally mistakened. Proposing STAGE in a case like mine was not smart at all. But I won't get back on the topic again..

No, I'm not advertising him. Yes, I do believe he's a very good surgeon.

Jack, I feel for you and what's happened to you, but you seem unduly bitter and negative. You were unlucky and had a bad experience. However, many others have had positive experiences, as they have posted. I have no hesitation in speaking as I have found, and my experience was largely positive.

As I've stated very clearly in my last post,  any penile surgery carries a not insignificant risk and should be regarded as the final option when all else has been tried.

I'm not sure how much clearer I can be.

Jack1909, your inbox is full?

Jack

Sorry for your bad results with Dr Kuehhas. He is not God and he can make mistakes.
For you, for sure 100% bad as your results are showing.
For Jon, 100% good as his results are showing. The reason he is posting about him is because he believe he may help other as he helped him and not because he is trying to promote him.
If you will read his posts (100+) you will understand Jon got to Dr Kuehhas after he was forum member for a long long time
By the way, Dr Kuehhas is not the only specialists that makes mistakes. Read what happened to one of our forum members with the revered Dr Lue :(

James 

You can text me now scorpion..


James, no need for comparing mistakes..


Btw if I won't be able to have the stitch removed by a surgeon, I'm crazy enough to do it by myself.

I just want to be capable of doing what I love in life: doing sports, keeping on my studies and so on..no matter what and no matter if I have to pass trough an amputation..

I'm not even asking to be sexual active..that's as ridiculous as medicine is.

jack1909 you are in bad condition. go to see dr of scorpion. he can help maybe. scorpion who was your surgeon?

I know it thank you  :D



Btw kuehhas is a good surgeon I still believe it as I repeated many times

scorpion 22 who was your doctor?

Hi,

I don't have Peyronies but have a venous leak which effects my ability to hold an erection.  I had reasonable success with viagra for many years but back in 2015 I noticed things tail off a bit. 


Regards
Gollam121

Anyone feel free to PM me if you either want more info or doubt me. 

If you trust this man with your dick your a bigger fool than I have been. 

I have asked others from FT to add their horror stories regarding Kuehhas and Scerothreapy.  I do this for no other reason but to not see other men suffer like I have.

Gollam121

Gollam

On this forum, some had excellent results with doctor Kuehhas, one member had bad results.
Your posts here and the many others on FrakTalk (a search on FT gives 64 matches for Kuehhas, big part of them yours, I spent two hours reading all carefully) have clear smearing intention, full of venom.
And if you are stating on the post you emailed to Dr. Kuehas:

QuoteI don't want to contacted because I don't think you have a clue to the damage you have caused Dr Franklin by undertaking this procedure with the so called asteamed Professor Herwig (the inventor!!)

How you want he may help you?
Also:

QuoteI know many men that have suffered because of Kuehhas

Most of the posts on FT belong to two members and you.
On this forum, we like to present facts and we don't like smearing as it is not helpful for no one

James

James,

It's not about smear it's about a statement of facts. 

Kuehhas offers what appears to be ground breaking surgery, however and in the case of Scerothreapy this is not new treatment but has apparently been revisited by Proffessor Herwig who

I don't just rely on forums for my information to why I have suffered, I actually want to get to the heart of the matter and speak directly with other men to whom have been operated on by Herwig and Kuehhas. 

I appreciate surgeons are human and make mistakes, however and in my case I was missold a form of surgery that is only performed by these two men.  My issue is the promises he made to me which now appear hollow when I'm now faced with implant surgery 16 months on at 42 years old.


To balance things out, yes I'm sure many men have had success with the sliding technique but reading the case of Jack is both terrifying and tragic.  This poor guy appears to be destroyed and no should try a muffle him because he's upset with Kuehhas.  It sounds desperate from some and as someone mentions he ain't no god so therefore stop reverring him so much.

Gollam

My feeling is you didn't read my previous post as you are addressing me with very little connection to my post.
So please read my post again and answer to the subject!!!

James

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Gollam121,
The warning you received was due to your miss-use of quotes on the forum and not following our rules. And not necessarily for your views.


I came to this site to air my story about Kuehhas and I get a warning !  I see others that's have gone to great lengths to support their concerns are basically told by members of this site they are either crazy or out to mess up the notion that Kuehhas is a deme-God.

The poor guy on this thread (Jack) it would appear got beaten down for daring to challenge the great man even though he was in a lot of distress post his surgery with him ?!

I see that my real home FT gets a bad press, yet we don't allow posters to promote treatments for surgeons like Kuehhas. 

Free speech is everything but if you all want to live in ignorance and slam different views then please carry on.

So back to FT where free speech is allowed.

As James has said, there are several members here who have had surgery with Dr Kuehhas and been treated successfully. I am one of them. My penis is now perfectly straight again.

Have you contacted him about this?  I've never known him to be anything less than helpful with any concerns I had. And has agreed to see me without charge if I have any concerns. Even though my surgery was more than one year ago.

The reason I mentioned this is that I know of one member here, who I have been in contact with, who had Egydio tech surgery. The surgery was unsuccessful and the curvature returned. Dr Kuehhas has offered to reoperate at no cost to put things right. Those are not the actions of a man who is the kind of charlatan you claim he is!.

Hey gollam121 How was your situation before the sclerotherapy? Did you work with pills? Could you maintain the erection?

No, wait. I appreciate the support that you showed to me, contrary to others members who in front of a suffering mate just keep on feeling the need to defend defend defend. Well, if I wasn't clear enough, as I always told that kuehhas is a good surgeon. He was good at getting rid of most of the crap I had inside and now I feel those parts decent. The problem was the operation strategy: if you don't remove that stitch/fibrotic mass the 45/50 degree deformation starts from, well, it's not even worth trying to straighten it as the force procuded from that is so huge that it will drag the penis back in shape. In fact, having an erection means feeling a pull as if I wore a traction device.

That freaked me out. It totally went me nuts as I know perfectly that if I had achieved what it was not impossible to achieve, the pain now would be reasonably bearable and the tool almost usable. And that would mean living some sort of almost normal life.

I don't believe he makes damages.

Just hope your ok Jack, it is what it is I guess.

I won't post anymore on this forum but just pleased your stilling fighting on.

All the best.
Gollam