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Title: Traction: Venous, arteries, nerves: what happen to them?
Post by: Juan on July 28, 2021, 01:05:23 PM
Hi friends , Some questions about traction:

Apart from the tunica, What happens to the different structures of the penis (venous, arteries, nerves etc) when you do traction?

Is there a risk to injure them? Would be possible to produce a venous leak from stretching?
Title: Re: Traction: Venous, arteries, nerves: what happen to them?
Post by: GaussRifle on July 29, 2021, 01:55:33 AM
I do not believe stretching carefully will cause venous leak. In fact daily stretching using a traction device has shown in studies to increase erections and make them stronger.
Title: Re: Traction: Venous, arteries, nerves: what happen to them?
Post by: PeyroniKirai on July 30, 2021, 02:30:36 AM
I am not a urologist, but I can tell you that veins and arteries are flexible, as are nerves.  And if you think about it logically, applying traction to a flaccid penis will never make the penis get longer than a full erection, so if your veins and arteries and nerves don't burst every time you get an erection, traction won't make that happen either.

The risk of traction is that you are stretching the tunica which has been compromised with plaque, and that plaque is preventing the penis from expanding as much as it did before.  So if there's anything you can damage in your penis with traction, it will be the tunica itself, which is why traction must be performed very carefully and in a controlled manner.
Title: Re: Traction: Venous, arteries, nerves: what happen to them?
Post by: Juan on August 24, 2021, 06:51:53 AM
When I do traction I can palpate in the dorsal side, like a tense cord or strip all along the shaft from the base up to the glans. I think this is not plaque but the neurovascular bundle.
This strip is much more easy to palpate while doing traction lying down because the penis is empty, while if you stand up the penis seems to be more full so the strip is not so easy to distinguish.
- Do you guys can also palpate this strip?
- Do you agree that this is the neurovascular bundle?

On the other hand, I've read in other posts of the forum about the neurovascular bundle saying that the neurovascular bundle sets the maximum potential of lengthening.

So my doubt is: I think I'm not stretching the tunica but just the neurovascular bundle, like if due to my physiognomy my nv bundle is much shorter than the c cavernosa. So I had already reached my maximum stretching lenght, therefore traction will never help me strectching the tunica, thus correcting curvature.

Does this make sense to you guys? any of you fell something similar? thanks
Title: Re: Traction: Venous, arteries, nerves: what happen to them?
Post by: postrocker on August 24, 2021, 09:32:35 AM
Yes, I have something very similar in the side that I have the curvature. In my case, the left side of my penis.

I can clearly feel it when I am doing traction and it seems that a bundle/cord/etc. is being stretched/tensioned from the base up to the glans. Like a long vertical line that I don't have/cannot feel in the right side of my penis. It does not seem to be a plaque (otherwise I would have a gigantic plaque).

I don't know if it is a neurovascular bundle, simply because I don't know anything about that.
Title: Re: Traction: Venous, arteries, nerves: what happen to them?
Post by: Lostandsad on August 25, 2021, 11:19:32 AM
Yes, same as you guys, when I do manual traction by hand, I can palpate a thin cord that starts from the base of the left side of my shaft, and it goes all the way up to the glans. It's tight and sort of painful to the touch.

I have no idea whether it's a neurovascular bundle. Definitely not a vein though... only showed up after I got peyronie's. Same as postrocker, it's only on my left side that's causing my curve/penis slanting to the left. No thin cord or anything on the right side. I'd like to know if this ever goes away over time or not...
Title: Re: Traction: Venous, arteries, nerves: what happen to them?
Post by: danh on August 27, 2021, 08:13:06 AM
Yeah. I have the same cord also. Left side. I asked a uro what it was, he said penile tissue. Like duh. Yeah it's part of the penis and it's tissue. I didn't give that answer much weight. The cord seems like a ligament. It's kind hard to palpitate because it's so thin and hard. But I try a little while doing restorex. I feel if they could just snip it or lengthen it, my curve would straighten big time. But, guess we don't want to do that.
I agree with you Juan. That cord may keep us from getting more length, as it can only be stretched so far. But, maybe we can get a little more girth from the restorex.
Title: Re: Traction: Venous, arteries, nerves: what happen to them?
Post by: Lostandsad on August 27, 2021, 02:27:28 PM
Yeah, I wish they can just snip these cords and stop the curve from getting worse. Unfortunately I noticed there's another one directly to the right of my dorsal vein. Now I have about four of these thin cords in total, three on the left, and one on the right. Sucks big time.

Manual traction for 1-2 hours a day for the last week hasn't improved these cords and the curvature much at all, added a rice sock for hyperthermia the last few days as well... however it's only been a week though, so I'm gonna keep at it until my PMP arrives.