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Title: Why not use anti fibrotic drugs used for PF?
Post by: Michiganguy19 on August 29, 2020, 10:35:27 PM
Lot of success treating pulmonary fibrosis with nintedanib and pirfenidone. Also ACE drug Lofarin been shown to stop and reverse fibrosis. Why no one trying it for Peyronie's?
Title: Re: Why not use anti fibrotic drugs used for PF?
Post by: Bent Ding Dong on September 07, 2020, 04:48:34 AM
@Michiganguy19, are you taking any of these meds yet? Am interested to know if it does anything. What are the side effects?
Title: Re: Why not use anti fibrotic drugs used for PF?
Post by: projectpd on September 07, 2020, 05:16:31 AM
@Michiganguy19, i think you mean losartan. interesting. Used to lower blood pressure but has some antifibrotic research results.  Low cost @ 6 x 28 100mg tablet(s) - £29.95. Needs monitoring for low blood pressure, potassium and kidney function, but mostly low side effects. Not an ACE inhibitor. Molecular weight 423.
Title: Re: Why not use anti fibrotic drugs used for PF?
Post by: hope794 on September 07, 2020, 07:23:51 PM
Makes a lot of sense. Honestly, this is unexplainable to me.
Title: Re: Why not use anti fibrotic drugs used for PF?
Post by: drew67 on September 09, 2020, 09:11:32 PM
losartan lowers dht so it can potentially make Peyronies Disease worse
Title: Re: Why not use anti fibrotic drugs used for PF?
Post by: projectpd on September 14, 2020, 04:24:35 PM
@drew67 do you have a ref for the DHT effect?
I don't necessarily mind if it lowers DHT anyway, but I think if I tried this it would only be transdermal anyway.
Title: Re: Why not use anti fibrotic drugs used for PF?
Post by: drew67 on September 14, 2020, 04:58:05 PM
you can find articles on pubmed

lowering DHT will also lower DHT in the penis where there are lots of DHT receptors
Title: Re: Why not use anti fibrotic drugs used for PF?
Post by: peter123 on September 19, 2020, 10:40:00 AM
Quote from: drew67 on September 09, 2020, 09:11:32 PM
losartan lowers dht so it can potentially make Peyronies Disease worse

No data to support this, in theory l Arginin and increased NO should thelp peyronies which is doesn't therefore the assumption thag lowering NO by lowering dht cannot be supported
Title: Re: Why not use anti fibrotic drugs used for PF?
Post by: projectpd on September 20, 2020, 12:32:59 PM
There are no references i could find on pubmed that find or suggest losartan lowers dht. There are a number of studies on losartan and valsartan in rats and humans looking for effects on male hormones & sexual function that found no adverse effects on them, but did improve sexual function & related parameters, at least in diabetic or hypertensive subjects.
Title: Re: Why not use anti fibrotic drugs used for PF?
Post by: drew67 on September 21, 2020, 10:07:09 PM
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4039155/
Title: Re: Why not use anti fibrotic drugs used for PF?
Post by: projectpd on September 24, 2020, 01:49:35 PM
What was the relevance of this link?
Title: Re: Why not use anti fibrotic drugs used for PF?
Post by: Asphyxia on April 11, 2021, 01:46:31 PM
Has anyone tried this?
Would it make sense to?
Title: Re: Why not use anti fibrotic drugs used for PF?
Post by: Mikel7 on April 11, 2021, 02:14:25 PM
I have been on losartan for BP for the past 7 years and it did nothing for my peyronies/fibrosis.  100mg QD.
Title: Re: Why not use anti fibrotic drugs used for PF?
Post by: Dipstick on April 29, 2021, 10:07:11 AM
I have perfenidone the raw powder from....

I am considering it a long with dmso!!!

It seems to be a preventive drug rather than restoring. None the less maybe worth while!
Title: Re: Why not use anti fibrotic drugs used for PF?
Post by: Hawk on April 29, 2021, 10:28:58 AM
What is the molecular weight?

How certain are you it is pure?

Do you have any clinical studies that show it is effective for Peyronies Disease?