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Tomorrow morning I'll be making a 5 hour drive from Southeastern Ma. to New York for a 4 o'clock appointment with Dr. Eid. this will be my first face to face meeting with him although i have only spoken to him once I feel very comfortable in my decision to have him do my surgery. After spending 4 months on FT following the journey of many before me. Im totally comfortable in the reputation of this Dr. When it comes to getting an implant the last thing you want is to be an experiment for some inexperienced Dr.
At 4 o'clock I'll have my first meeting get measured stretched injected and told what I should expect after the surgery.
Wednesday I'll have the rest of the tests and Thursday will be my last day before I become bionic. Friday at 5;30 ill have surgery.
To be continued

Best of luck to you. Will we no-longer be able to call you floppy? Cheers.

Quote from: Alibaba on October 22, 2018, 08:59:54 PM
Best of luck to you. Will we no-longer be able to call you floppy? Cheers.

I sure hope that it will be floppy no more. I'll be happy to be "rock solid "

Floppy, I had my first seat in that waiting room not so very long ago so I am with you in spirit.  All will be fine as you patiently watch everything settle into place.

Btw, I like "FloppyNoMore".  You can change your screen name and your login name and password will remain the same.

Best wishes my friend.

Another brother going forward with this. wishing you best of luck on the procedure and please, keep us updated on this. Fingers crossed for you!

Congrats on "taking the plunge" floppy! You're in excellent hands with Dr. Eid. Please keep us posted on your progress!

Well 4:00  o'clock came I had the tour of the office met the girls and the Dr. I had a chance to play
With the samples and Dr. Eid sat with my wife and I and answered questions for at least a half hour. Off to get the dreaded shot which hurt like hell but I was expecting it. I was told that there is very little blood flow in the arteries and that some Atrophy has occurred he pulled and pressed and said that he would most likely use the 20 cm coloplast also said
That I was very wide 14 cm so I told the Dr. to do the best you can with what's left. He said you will be fine and sex will Be good . That's what i wanted to hear.

Sounds like you were in good hands......literally. Best wishes to you and your wife too. Everyone, don't forget the wives in this. These things are stressful for them too. Cheers all.

Quote from: Alibaba on October 23, 2018, 07:55:17 PM
Sounds like you were in good hands......literally. Best wishes to you and your wife too. Everyone, don't forget the wives in this. These things are stressful for them too. Cheers all.

Thanks Ali,
I'll do my best to document the trip it's funny but I never in my most wild imagination thought I be here today. Thankfully there is this opition. One day closer to the new me. Nervous but glad Ive found Dr. Eid. He discusses the attributes of the two implant manufacturers
Just a point of interest when we were talking about implants I mentioned that for over 40 years I designed hydraulic systems. That brought up some interesting conversations regarding the different manufacturers. As you know the two of them have direct contact with the top high volume surgeons these are the guys that bring feed back to make changes in the product line. AMS is now going to make a change to their design they are going to lengthen the tubes to reduce the use of RTEs at the suggestion of Dr.  Eid. This is the reason to look long and hard for a surgeon that is passionate about his chosen profession . It's Doctors like him that drive the inovations in the design that benefits us the consumer.More to follow.

Wow! Those are some amazing details. Curious to see if they really go through with it. Thanks!

Where will your incision be?

Dr. Eid uses  a small vertical  incision below the penis

Right on the seam of the scrotum.  I am amazed that by week three (1 week after the three stitches were removed) my wife nor I could find any trace of the incision.  The area was still very sensitive but NOTHING visible.

About time AMS lengthened tubes! While they are at it, I hope they re-engineer that 8 cornered brick of a pump too! Cheers.

Sitting in Dr. Eid's office one more test  before surgery tomorrow getting a bit Anxious

Don't be anxious.  Dr. Eid and time are going to fix you.  Just don't get impatient.  Every concern I thought I had, from angle when deflated to pump placement resolved with time.

Be brave floppy! You got this!

All you needed was a plan. You have a plan now. Be confident in the plan. I have to agree, I was always apprehensive about every surgery I've had but once there was a plan, I was good with it and ready. You be too. You are in good hands, a man who has seen it all. Literally  ;D.  Yup, that 65 year old man has seen your stuff. Committed to memory. If he goes senile, he will surely be telling stories about your junk years from now.  :o  Cheers.

 Well it's 12 hours till I  have surgery in the morning I'll be the first guy of three he has on tap for tomorrow ten for the week   This morning  I had my last test a cystoscope yuk but it's done. I had a few questions for Dr. Eid he had a waiting room full of patients but said I'm here to take care of You. So ask me what ever you can think of I'll try to answer you the best I can . After the question and answer period as I walked out of his office he put his hand on my shoulder and said don't worry about a thing I'll take good care of you. That was like an old friend saying I've got your back

Quote from: Floppy on October 25, 2018, 06:11:43 PM
Dr. Eid he had a waiting room full of patients but said I'm here to take care of You. So ask me what ever you can think of I'll try to answer you the best I can . After the question and answer period as I walked out of his office he put his hand on my shoulder and said don't worry about a thing I'll take good care of you. That was like an old friend saying I've got your back

I love that about Dr. Eid.  My appointments were spread out over a couple of weeks and in that time, I honestly felt like I was seeing an old friend when we met. He exudes caring and confidence.  You may not think of it, but when you see him in the morning tell him you are on the forum with the only guy he has ever let take his cell phone into the O.R.  He will clearly remember since we have discussed it since.

Alibaba: did you say Eid is 65 years old? do you know that for sure?

Not 100%, but merrix and I and a couple others have talked about if they need replacements, will he still be practicing to do it? On the other hand, If he sets it up perfect to the start with, the local part time coroner that also works at the lumber desk, could slip out the old one and in a new one with no issue as the master has already fitted and aligned the stars.  All fabulous people deserve to retire to France young, but he probably will keep grinding them out in the competition for the most properly installed implants Score.   Nice man to talk to. Cheers to you two.

Well, our brother Floppy is in the OR at this point getting preped for surgery.  I had the first slot of the day so I am hoping we hear from him about noon but i'll cut him some slack if he takes the day off. 

Soon the master will be working his magic.  Maybe I should change Floppy's display name to FloppyNoMore for him to welcome him and his penis back to the land of the living.

Yes,that would be a great surprise for him, floppyNOmore!

He has to be in recovery as an official Bionic Brother by now.  :)

Hi guys surgery went well biggest issue was getting the spinal inserted 20cm Coloplast with a 1 cm rte to get the pump in the best place no pain so far should be out of the
Hospital  by noon Great staff walked in to the OR to Perth woman playing

Fabulous news!  Cheers man. Take it easy, be well.

Congrats!

Just about half a day since the surgery took a hydromorphone and Motrin so far it's pretty sore in the sack.Dr. Eid called to check in see how I was doing. I've had a few minor bladder spasms but not to bad the ice helps. He told me to go exploring for the pump it's way back near the bottom ball on the bottom and seems easy to get to. My wife wanted to see if she could find it but I told her "not yet" it's kind of tender back there and one little slip with those nails and I'll be singing in the Vienna boys choir . All in all it hurts but I was expecting that.  I'll see with the night brings.

Bye the way is nice to be Floppy No More

Yipeee!

Hell yeah! Hopefully another amazing success story! Go go go floppy!

Day 2
Rough night last night the jockstrap is the crux of the problem too poorly designed for the purpose. Ok for holding up the scrotum but the elastic and and straps are not in the right place for a twelve o'clock Dick. If you think about it a jock strap is really designed for a 6 o'clock Dick position.After having spent the night trying to get my junk in order I sent a text to Dr. Eid to explain the jockstrap issues he agreed the purpose of it is two fold 1 to keep you Dick pointed up and 2 to support the scrotum. This can be achieved with a nice comfortable snug pair of underwear without the pain of the straps digging in and the band squashing your glands.
Started feeling around for the pump I was told that lying down tends to let gravity work and the pump falls back. Dr.Eid said that I should move it around pull it gently forward and down it's a bit tender in there but it's discoverable.
When I feel around im pretty happy I did this I can feel the cylinders and even though I'm not pumped I can tell that in a couple more days when I'm in the tub and things relax I'll be able start pumping it up as far as sensitivity I don't have any areas that feel in the least bit numb

I definitely had some rough nights and positioning your junk will be a preoccupation for a while.  I had a love-hate relationship with the jock strap.  I actually had one they gave me pre-surgery and one the day of surgery.  One was better than the other but I thought they were both weird.  They were extra large but in some ways too snug and the wide waistband was too low or as you say, you would have to put the glans of a straight up dick under the band which makes no sense.  After I started hitting the tub I would ditch the supporter for a couple days then wear it over cotton briefs for a couple days.  It seemed to help in some situations and interfere in other situations.

Dr. Eid never told me to "pull on my pump".  In fact when I suggested that I wanted to (about day 4) because I felt it was too high he was clear that I should NOT because it was already starting to scar in.  When I told him I had read others that suggested that it would adhere to a testicle or the scrotum if you did not tug on it and move it around.  In his kind of soft understated tone of voice, he actually said "That is BS.  I am sorry to use those words but the only way a pump will adhere to a testicle is if you have an infection." 

Stay patient.  With me, every day did not show clear improvement but at least every 2 or 3 days did.  Say flat, even without a pillow if you can stand it.  That way nothing is higher than your penis and scrotum.  The vast amount of discomfort will be the scrotum.  Your first big milestone to look forwrd to is that catheter and the tub.

Keep us posted.

The morning of day 3. Slept well last night only up a few times. Talked to Dr Eid yesterday about the catheter it's been leaking a little at the tip of the penis he said leave it on for the rest of the night and take it out in the morning. I've had a catheter before for my prostate surgery. It
was actually quite comfortable and seemed like it was effortless to pee the way that this one has a big loop going up and around it's a strain to pee unless your flat on your back. I'll take it out and it will be a relief.
As far as pain I've been taking Motrin and it seems to be enough just took a narcotic in preparation to pull out the catheter.
I'm feeling a lot better today and hope that this is the start of the recovery Dr. Eid said that the worst part for swelling is in the first 48 hours. Laying in bed there is no pain or discomfort at all. Moving around to get comfortable I'm reminded that there was some trauma to the groin. I don't have trouble walking or standing either. Sitting is a whole other challenge and I'm sure not looking forward to a 5 hour car ride tomorrow. The saving grace will be to sit in the wirlpool tub and soak.

FNM,

On the ride home, try to recline.  In any sitting situation, I discovered after much trial and error that the very most comfortable option is to a bath towel and then place it on the seat shaped like the letter "V" with the intersecting point of the "V" under your tailbone.  The legs of the "V" go under your legs and it keeps the pressure off of your scrotum and the perineum.  A "U" shaped pillow can work as long as the opening is wide.

The very worst is to sit on a fluffy pillow.  When you sit on it, it forces all the fluff to bulge right up into the area you where DON"T want it bulging.  I think with the "V" shape and a pain pill, the trip won't be so bad, especially after you are out of the stop and go of Manhattan.

Day 4
I'm  sitting in the car on I 95 heading home wife's driving although I'm sure that I would be fine driving my wife insisted i told her it's ok give me a few weeks and I'll be driving again she smiled. This morning I had an appointment for a check up at 9:00 Dr. Eid was in surgery making someone else's life better so Myra asked me how I was feeling and if everything was ok. Yes was my response. She told me to take off my pants off and underwear lay on the exam table and she would examine me. She put on her gloves and started moving things around. Her comment was I have some swelling on the left does it hurt. She suggested that I wait a few days to try to pump it up. My wife said that we are far from New York My comment was well give it a try and if it's too painful we can stop after 8 or 9 i said uncle no problem in the shaft she could have kept going for quit a while it actually felt pretty darn good but squashing the sack was bringing tears to my eyes. She was getting ready to deflate then my wife spoke up again . She said to me why don't you deflate it. I felt around for a bit got the feel of the ball held it with my right hand and squeezed the button first time and it work just like it was made to. Myra told me to go home take a two or three hot baths a day with some heating pad in between and don't cycle till Wednesday give the swelling a chance to subside then go ahead and start the routine of day to day cycling and if I have any questions give her a call. She said you've got the most difficult part down so you'll be fine. We both thanked her and left. On the walk back to the hotel my wife was smiling. I on the other hand was wishing I'd have taken a pain pill before we went to the office

There is no doubt that squeezing the pump by pressing on the skin of the scrotum is the tough part.  In the beginning, I would squeeze 2 times and wait a couple two or three minutes and squeeze a few more until I go inflated.  I would also change the area of skin that was under my thumb by either pressing the pump ball at a different spot or moving the scrotum skin around so a different area of skin was under my thumb.  I started pumping on day 4 but only once a day.  Dr. Eid said I could pump once a day if I left it inflated for close to 30 minutes.

IF you did not have to continue depressing the deflate valve while deflating the penis I am jealous.  My Titan touch should be called a Titan Clamp because it has never drained without contently depressing the valve.  I have heard some that start working weeks or months after surgery.  Presumably, once they are broken in so I still hope that happens.  It is not a huge thing but would be nice.

FNM, congrats-sounds like it's going well.  From what I hear regular cycling is key so Wed sounds great. It's very interesting how the different models have different pumps—even between two titans it can be different.  If I had known I would have asked more about pump Options.  Sometimes mine self deflates after activating, and other times I have to hold it down continuously.  Please keep us posted.

Day 5
The long ride home took its toll.  Sitting on two rolled up towels for about five hours was all right with scrotum but not so good for hemorrhoids.  Had a pretty good nights sleep last night probably got six hours. First thing this morning got up ran a bath then sat in it for half an hour.  Of course if you're sitting in the bathtub and everything is kind a loose there's only one thing I can think about. The Pump so you start playing with it a little bit. You know that You were told to wait until Wednesday but it feels pretty good. I think I'll give it a squeeze and see what happens.  After being relaxed in the warm water the first initial squeeze Is a little tough but the ones after are pretty good.  So I just kept pumping and it started to hurt a little bit in the shaft I was pleasantly surprised looks like I might be a half inch short of what I was prior to the surgery.  There was still a lot of pumping left so I think I should get back to original.  In my case the position of the pump is such that the deflate button is  in line left and right with my body.  Because of the scar from incision it's a little challenging to find a position where you can squeeze the button without squeezing the scar area.  Once that scar heels it should be very easy .
At least the morning I think I'll just lay around and rest without putting to much pressure on anything try and recover from the car ride .  Things seem to be moving along it's a slow process one day at a time but there sure is light at the end of the tunnel.

FloppyNoMore, you sound like you are doing great for day five.  It sounds like you will be one more patient of the fine Dr. Eid that gets at least the length he was promised because whatever you are at full inflation at week one will still not be your max length.

You mention "sitting" in the tub.  Just a word of caution.  Dr. Eid warns against sitting up in hot water as it will cause swelling.  The goal is to lay down and keep as much of your body lower than your penis and scrotum as possible.  Obviously your face should be out of the water.  We do not want to bury a perfectly good implant  :D.  Unless you have a huge tub your knees will also be bent and out of the water but that is far less mass than your upper body.

I was in the tub in August so I took a glass of ice water and the ice bag with me at each soak.  I was laying the ice bag on my head.

Hawk that's a very good point about the ice and ice water. By the time I I had inflated I was dripping perspiration into my eyes. I tried the heating pad just now. The results are very much the same.ome thing that I noticed is that the deflate button seems to have a timer type memory or maybe it's just that I'm not totally sure but this morning when I deflated I pushed and held it while I squeezed the shaft. With the heating pad I had not pumped but there was definitely still fluid in the cylinders i squeezed the button one firm pinch let it go and then bent the penis over and more fluid came out . So The question is when does it reset itself or how does it resets.  If my understanding of the hydraulic circuit is that once the pressure equalized on both sides of the valve. The poppet resets itself this is probably why AMS calls it the momentary squeeze and  Titan  calls it one touch.  Anyway it works
I'm not doing too badly but I'm a long way feeling great

The infamous Titan Touch deflate button  :o

As you seem to know it is supposed to take a 2 - 3-second firm squeeze and that puts it in deflate mode.  Me and MANY others have never seen that.  many more have not seen it until months post op.  I think my grip is in the top 10 percentile of men with implants.  I have squeezed with two hands with all my might and held for 4 seconds.  As soon as I let go, deflation stops.  As a result, I have to hold and squeeze my penis.  This really is not much of a problem.  I was happy with that until I learned their ads say I should not have to do it that way.  Now I am annoyed like working a Rubik's Cube or solving another puzzle.

I have considered temporarily super-gluing a pencil eraser to my index finger to focus all the force directly onto the deflate button.  Since it points down and to the left I cannot get my thumb on it but I don't think that would change anything.  I actually considered some padded pliers but decided against that.  It might void the warranty :) I just want to see that sucker function one time like advertised.

Since I apparently never really fully set the deflate valve I guess toggling it back is not a concern.  If it is locked open they recommend 1 or 2 hard squeezes after deflation as a redundant protection against it auto-inflating.  I have no backfill or autofill issues although I did have for the first week or so after surgery.  Be sure to keep it deflated to stretch your reservoir capsule.  That implant gets much flatter and folded than I first thought when it is hyper deflated.

On the hot soaks - Icewater, ice bags, and a good playlist on your music player are a must.  The soaks are a love/hate for sure.  Your junk loves them but your body is sapped.


Keep Trucking, soon you will be ......................happy  ;)

Take it easy, don't over do things.  Glad all went well at the flop stop shop! Cheers.

 One week anniversary Had the surgery last Friday here's an update
I've been cycling twice a day in the tub or 15 minutes at a time towards the end of that 15 minutes starts getting rather painful the top and bottom . I have  no problems with the pump or the deflate button.  The pump seems to actually have moved into more favorable spot that's quite accessible it will be very comfortable once the stitches are out and that scar has healed.  There have been a few things that come up, One if I press the deflate button and deflate and then I leave It it seems to reinflate partly.  I was toldof  this happens that If I give the ball one quick squeeze after Im fully deflated it will prevent this from happening. It does work but I'm wondering why the lockout valve is not locking out in the reservoir.
Stubble regrowing is a pain.
The big issue has been hemorrhoids they showed up two days ago even with the  colace and milk of magnesia still having trouble's so for that pain in the ass is worse and the paint on the other side

FloppyNoMore, are you able to get the deflate valve to stay open with one squeeze or do you have to keep it depressed ?

Hawk one squeeze will do it but then after a while it fills a bit not much but a noticeable change occurs .
The first few times I wasn't sure if it was swelling or reinflating but it is definitely some fluid coming back from the tank. Myra is the one that told me to give it a quick squeeze after the deflate.
Only issue with that is as you know the first squeeze is the most difficult and likely to send the pump flying so I have to make sure I get a good grip. Right now I have just a bit of a bruise the color is back only thing is the scrotum is always hanging it was not like that in the past except if I was very warm or came out of a hot tub or bath. I'm not complaining it's just different and when I'm fully deflated when the shaft meets my pubic area it's sore where the folds are no visible dog  ears really just seems that is the point of where all the folds hang out.
How was your second week as far as milestones?

It drives me nuts (pun intended) that I cannot get mine to work with one squeeze.  It just the challenge or principle of the thing that annoys me.

If you just slightly support the pump assembly from the other side with your other hand it prevents that; sending the pump flying like shooting marbles as a kid.  Also, it is surprising how much easier it is to squeeze that pump in the early stages if you just lay a washcloth on your pump hand and grab it with the washcloth.   Coloplast says one or two quick hard pumps after deflating locks a second redundant (my word) valve.

This is probably obsessive but I had that issue early on of filling up a little.  I was afraid my reservoir capsule would scar in to small so I actually go a piece of that Coban elastic bandage that sticks to itself.  After I super deflated one night I wrapped my penis snug (but not tight).  I left it in place for 5 hours.  Coincidence ??? I never had a slight backfill after that.

Another day another step closer to a pain free morning.  On a typical Saturday morning before I had a prostatectomy my wife and I would have a little fun well this morning we have a little fun I laid in the bathtub after 25 pumps  my wife came in smiled and said can I touch it ? I said go ahead, little squeals here slow stroke there wow that's pretty hard I can't wait. I was trying to smile while trying to block out the pain at the same time thinking to myself will I ever be able to use this thing.  Cycling it's no fun but then again neither shoveling snow something that have to be done . I have been sleeping better not taking narcotic medication Motrin Advil seem to take the edge off.  Most of the time I would say there's discomfort the only time there's pain now is cycling and sitting the second part can be alleviated but using the towels the cycle in part you just have to bite the bullet and suffer through. So far I haven't seen any reduction in pain while cycling but then again I'm only 8 days since the surgery. I will say the boredom from laying on your back most of the day that's probably the worst part. If the rain stops I'll try to go for a walk.
Every day I keep getting emails from my golf buddies in Florida asking me when I'm coming down by this time we have usually closed up the house up north and are enjoying south Florida. I'm thinking that shipping the cars down around the 15th should be fine just not sure when I will feel comfortable swinging a club.

Great report.

I really think you will be swinging a club pretty quickly and I think even now you will find walking to be no problem.  I actually found it to be a relief and a distraction.  I could be wrong since I am no golfer but I think the biggest issue on the course will be bending down to retrieve your ball and placing it on the tee.  In the early stages, whether pointed up or down, your junk seems to get squeezed and torqued when bending to tie a shoe etc.

I actually think jumping in and out of a golf cart and jostling in a sitting position would be less comfortable than walking the course at this point. 

Another hindrance to your golf is that in all likelihood, none of your buddies have a penis nearly as reliable, hard, or as functional as yours.  You might get more wrapped up in indoor activities this winter.  ;)

Day 9
I feel like there's small pieces of progress every day and if I look back a few days they are definitely adding up. Cycling is a challenge as every day the goal is to pump till you can't stand the pain or the ball is to hard to squeeze. Well in reality too hard to squeeze is some what suggestive. Kind of like I can probably get another pump out. it's pretty hard and if it goes flying its going to hurt like hell should I risk it or just wait,  here in agony for the next fifteen minutes . You try to justify things. You think to yourself that you've already increased your pumps from 30 the day before to 33 that night to now 36 this morning is it really worth the risk I'll try for 37 tonight .
The worst part of the last few days by far was I got Constipated. The constipation caused me to develop a hemorrhoid. I've had mild hemorrhoids before neverbeen a problem but this one hurts like hell so what It does is Aggravate the ability to find a way to sit. When  you  options are limited due to the fact that you can't sit on your scrotum and you can't sit on your ass it boils down to the fact you just can't sit which becomes a pain in the ass. On that note I will go for a walk.

I'm anxious to hear how your walk went.  Something about walking felt great to me, especially since  my options were walking or laying in bed :)


Oh, Not to step on your progress topic but MY TITAN TOUCH PUMP FINALLY DEFLATED AS ADVERTISED THIS MORNING FOR THE FIRST TIME SINCE SURGERY   WOOOOHOOO!

I finally caught up to you.  Now we will see if it was a fluke or another thing to check off my list.

Went for a walk with my sons dogs this morning about a  mile no problem walking only issue is trying to find a comfortable position to put it in straight up no good if you bend down to get the ball it gets scrunched. If it's out straight it's not hanging quite enough off to the side feels weird . In a perfect world it would be better without any underwear or pants just out in the open. But there are a lot of squirrels gathering nuts at this time of the year you would need to be on gaurd. Being out driving is not too bad the biggest problem is sitting and finding a place to put this new THING it's too early to put it where it belongs.  "But like the rabbi said at the circumcision it won't be long now" till it's  back in the saddle.

Excellent!!

Quote from: FloppyNoMore on November 04, 2018, 02:24:46 PMIn a perfect world it would be better without any underwear or pants just out in the open. But there are a lot of squirrels gathering nuts at this time of the year you would need to be on gaurd.

ROFL   ;D

Those squirrels would be so star struck by your massive cock they would freeze with their eyes bugging out. They would forget the nuts. Trust me. We do groundhogs the same way here. ;D

Speaking of squirrels, take a look at this poor fella, Ouch!!!!  :D

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=squirrel+traps+his+nuts+youtube&view=detail&mid=F2700268E8AAE4FECF0BF2700268E8AAE4FECF0B&FORM=VIRE

I have very soft spot in my heart for that poor squirrel I know exactly how he feels.
Day 10
I've learned a few things in the 7 days since I was activated cycling is painful deflating is painful
Inflating is painful surgery is painful in all of these events there's one thing that we git our teeth for. The ability to be able to enjoy sex again.
A few tips I've learned along the way.
1. Find the best doctor you can this will reduce all of the above. Get it right the first time.
2. A facecloth lightly wrapped on the scrotum gives you a better grip less pain
3. In the morning after Your in the tub and inflated get out go to the shower shave wash up it takes your mind off the pain of just sitting in the tub watching the seconds tick by
4. If you have a Titan deflate it all the way then two small pumps to lock the reservoir you can do it with one but the second will leave a bit of fluid in the cylinders that way the sharp corners from the dog ears won't dig in.
5. Don't be afraid to take a pain pill that's why you have them but don't just take them because there there..
6. Make friends with someone that's been down the road not to long before you their experience can save you a lot of anxiety.
7.  Patience and more of the same it's not going to improve overnight it's small  increments.
8. Remember when you were a teen those days of constant erections were painful also.
9. When you first put it in that warm wet p~$$% remember that that's why we did this.

When I had the first 2 horrible days behind me riding for 4+ hours immediately after surgery and climbing a flight of stairs to the bedroom, then another 4 or 5 days laying in a tub of hot water 2 or 3 times a day in August cycling my implant, my wife looked at me one day a said, "You must really like p~$$%".  :)

Floppynomore, I WISH YOU THE BEST!!!!

FloppyNoMore,

You mentioned some uncomfortable dogear bends or folds when deflated.  This is part of the break-in period.  To give some perspective, I can literally bend my penis in half and squeeze it.  (Don't try that yet)  :)

As you heal and cylinders soften, the combination will have you free of all discomfort in several weeks.  The discomfort will begin to ramp down before that but it is a process, not an event.  Remember my earlier post before surgery. "Dr. Eid and time are going to fix you."  Dr. Eid has done his job, now it is just a matter of time.

@floppy Haha she's got a sense of humour! but honestly.... She's right... It's been 4 years for me without sex... I miss it and your diaries help me lots coping with it.

Day  11
15 cycles so far. I have been following the cycling pattern I was prescribed 2 times a day for 15 minutes pump to max. Every time is a little bit different some more painful others are less. The pump sometimes squeezes easily and sometimes very difficult I pumped from 26 to 36 pumps to get to the point I can't squeeze another pump out. I get most of my pain in the scrotum from the skin not liking to get squeezed. The tips are tender but not sore unless I try to move them around. The most uncomfortable spot by far is deep in the crus. How does this compare with other experience's?
I will say that things do improve on a daily basis not a lot but I find myself trying to evaluate the day just before I go to sleep. The physical healing of the incision and bruising is almost complete. It was inspected by wife with a light yesterday and with her medical background as a Dr. she was very impressed.
Things have settled down so much so that it's comfortable to explore a bit with your fingers and feel the whole array of components. The tubbing seems to be way back that area where it enters the corpa is still very tender to the touch as is the  perineum .
I'm looking forward to a promise of a test drive by no later tha November 29 th my beautiful wife's 65th birthday.
Dave

Hmmmmm,   How long has it been since you had full, erect, intercourse?   I am willing to bet you don't hold out until the 29th. 

I would say your experience seems to pretty closely mirror my experience as far as pain location etc. 

Glad to here it's improving and healing!  Never had pain in the crus or perineum at all.  My pumping to Max was all over the place for a awhile - anywhere from 20-50+...never sure why.  Scrotum def sore w squeezing but eventually toughened up and no longer painful to pump.  Hang in there...it should only get better and better!

Hawk I'll take the bet but I want to lose.

Quote from: TonySa on November 06, 2018, 02:51:40 PM
My pumping to Max was all over the place for a awhile - anywhere from 20-50+...never sure why. 

Every pump model is known to be glitchy. Any other industry, we would call them junk. Why do we have junk in our junk?  My AMS  would pump 300 pumps and not get anywhere. Once it finally worked it would still vary like yours. It is hard to consistently get a full pump which makes it hard. I had enough days with joint and strength issues this summer that I started to flop my ball sack onto the vanity and push down on the pump and know I have a full pump every stroke. 36 pumps every time it do it with this one.

Day 12
Rather uneventful day drove around to do errands. The biggest issue of the day is control. Controlling where it going to be point to somewhat near an acceptable comfort level. If I start out with it up after I bend down or sit down it moves if I try to put it to one side or the other when I move around it moves If I try to point it down it only stays that way again till I move around. Right now it's happy place is at 2:45-3:00oclock and that's fine till you put on a pair of pants. I even tried to super deflate it by squeezing every last bit of fluid I could out. That's close but still a cigar. Hawk mentioned that it's to early to bend it over well it's just about there but not quite. I keep repeating to myself over and over "chill out it's going to take time". That's become the mantra. Just one other issue that keeps reminding me it's only been 12 days is that it takes a lot longer to build up a callus or kill the nerves in the scrotum where you squeeze the pump because that area is not getting less sensitive unfortunately it's getting more sensitive. Now I know why they give you all the pain pills it's not because of the surgery it's to mask the pain of squeezing the living crap out of your scrotum. I wish there was a remote control.
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 Any day now I expect you to say that your scrotum is becoming a little more used to getting smashed between your thumb and a hard pump bulb with ridges.

As Alibaba one said, who would have ever thought the scrotum would get used to this.  It makes you wonder if you zipped your glans up in your zipper every day if it would eventually not even bother you.

Quote from: Hawk on November 07, 2018, 05:22:34 PM
   It makes you wonder if you zipped your glans up in your zipper every day if it would eventually not even bother you.

GASP!  Who is up to test it?

Glans in zip No, I feel sick, and faint  :o  ;D

I'll  pass on the zipper and the nails and most defiantly don't want anyone trying to pump me up with their teeth. It would be nice if only a bit of discomfort from pumping and if I had been consulted prior to the final design for the no touch pump. The deflate button could have been a little more pronounced not much just a bit higher. Theres one thing that keeps come up every day I have at least two fully usable erections that are going to waste. This will have to stop very soon. on Friday I get the stitches removed and as Dr. Eid says sexual relations can start as soon as 2 weeks after surgery. He also recommends a hot bath to reduce swelling. As I remember from my pre ED days after the penis is placed in a warm wet vagina it doesn't take long for the swelling to subside. Its a little coincidental that even though we have multiple bathrooms in our house that when i'm in the middle of one of my twice daily baths I get a visit from my wife. Usually with a big smile she just looks and smiles and excuses herself as if she's checking to see if its done yet.

I had my inaugural entry 21 days after surgery which Dr. Eid told me was the minimum time.  Many of Dr. Eid's patients wait longer.  Some doctors don't even have you cycling your implant at that point.  Myra, One of Dr. Eid's assistants, said I did "not have to do it then if you are still sore because you wouldn't enjoy it anyway."  My response was "Myra,  clearly, you don't have a penis, much less one that can finally get a rock hard erection after a decade of less than optimal erections.  I am pretty sure I will manage to enjoy it".  She laughed. 

I considered taking a pain pill before sex the first time but either forgot or decided against it.  At 21days intercourse worked fine.  The main issues, in the beginning, were any unexpected sideway movements like if your wife were to slip sideways to get further from the edge of the bed.  Even a subtle move of that kind hurt for a moment. Even any sideways pressure that would tilt my penis slightly to the side during foreplay was uncomfortable. Straight, controlled intercourse was great, however.

Day 14
This morning I got the operative Report of my surgery it was emailed to me to pass along to my local Urologist for his records. The day of my surgery I didn't get a chance to see Dr. Eid by the time I was out of recovery he was in the operating room working on his next patient.  Therefore I didn't get a chance to discuss how things went . He had already spoke to my wife and said everything had gone very well.
From the time right after my prostatectomy in June till the implant I have not been able to achieve an erection. I didn't notice anything that would indicate the development of Peyronie's there were only 5 attempted injections all were so painful and ineffective I didn't bother to continue. The clue was that when I was in the shower I peed and noticed that there was a little turn to the left. Being that my political view is in the right direction I wondered about it but dismissed it. The report from the prostate surgeon said that there was involvement 1 mm from the left capsule and he had to remove nerves on that side.

Here is what I found out from reading Dr. Eid's full report.

e] Correction of penile angulation.

Examination of the penis with the cylinders fully inflated revealed the presence of a mild curvature to the left. The area of deformaty was determined to be proximal near the base of the penis Using a combination of superficial incisions and blunt modeling of the tunica albuginea, the defect is corrected. Further disection was done to expose the tunica albuginea on the side of the penile shaft near the base the penis. A series of small parallel excisions were made at the level of the corporotomy, and the resulting defect was closed with a running 3-0 PDS suture. An erection was induced again to test the adequacy of the repair. Marked improvement of the shape of the penile shaft was noted. the cylinders were deflated and re inflated and the patient's penis was re-examined. The correction of angulation accomplished, we turned our attention to the next part of the procedure.

When I gave my local Urologist the report he read right through it all five pages before he removed the sutures. His comment on the repair of the Peyronies issue was it took a very experienced surgeon to change course for a few minutes to correct something that he found while testing his work that was not known before hand.
As I sit here on my towels I think that I now have a reason that explains why the left proximal area has been more painful since the surgery there was more trauma in that area cutting and sewing than the other side. I feel fortunate that I chose to go to Dr. Eid had I not picked such an experienced surgeon I could very well have the "leaning penis of Pizza."
By next week I hope to be putting this thing to use.
Dave

I agree that this speaks volumes of your surgeon to install an implant, inflate it and could have called it good to go.  So you have a little tilt to one side.  Maybe it will work itself out in time.  Instead, in his perfectionist manner he took extra time and solved the problem before sending you back to NewEngland to discover the imperfection.

This also points to the close link between Peyronies Disease and Ed.  Often that relationship exists even when the patient was unaware.

Awesome. To think we used to think flopper stoppers were braziers. Cheers man. Great report!

I was under the impression that Dr. Eid did not corrected curvature with other than an implant. This is very nice to know. You are also healing well, which is very good. Pretty soon you will be dipping it somewhere... nice... haha  8)

I was thinking about the effort Dr. Eid made to make it perfect.  Says a lot about a doctor who does 3 implants in a day instead of trying to cram 5-7 in a day.  He has the time to not rush.  Wishing you a fabulous recovery.

Ali
When I got the schedule from Janice the date was set as Friday I asked what time the surgery would be, this was back in July. She told me I had first choice I could have 7am 10am or 2pm. So he leaves time in between for unforeseen things that pop up no pun intended. The  attitude of his team is very relaxed. I look forward to see how much he gets compensated for his part of the surgery. I know that from my wife's experience she would have to make her tee schedule to the Insurance companies up on a yearly basis. Based on codes some of the insurance companies would discount the fees by 65%  it if they found out that you gave a discount for a cash paying patient they would then take that amount off what they paid her. One $300.00 discount ended up
Costing her over $30,000.00 from United, that's why so many of these doctors try to cram in all that they can. The system is screwed up I think Dr.. Eid has figured out that he is going to do things the way he likes to after 35 years in practice .

Just thought I'd make this statement. I've never had a big dick it's the always done the job 6 inches long on a good day but I'm quite wide I jokingly referred to it as a tuna can . The reality is there are two people that will benefit from my dick one is me and the other is my wife. I really don't care if it's a 1/4" this way or that and frankly neither does my wife. Getting all hung up on if I gained this or lost that in the grand scheme of things is a huge waste of time . If you love your wife or partner then the act of sex mixed with love is much more important than I gained this or I lost that. Sex with love is why I what'd this I don't want some whore to do some kinky act to make me feel like I'm Mr. Macho man I want to have the same Intimate caring love making we have shared for the last thirty five years. That's what this is about at least for me.

Hey floppy! I don't want by any means to discredit what you wrote there. I understood what you said about making love... I've been in a long term relationship for 6 years.. Not quite as you but still some time. I'm am now single, 32yo, haven't had intercourse in 4 years and I couldn't think more different... Size... Purpose of implant.. How intercourse will be.... What will somebody whom I barely know will think....

Floppy I know you're not worried about the size, but since we both have the same type of implant (titan 20 + 1) can you tell me what your size is now?

Hereiam
If I pump up to the point of pain I'm at 6" length girth 6 3/4" I could not be comfortable having sex like that and I'm sure my wife would not care for it . I haven't tried it yet but I have been pumping to different levels of hardness I think that when I try it out this coming weekend I'll pump to about 5 3/4" length and 6 1/2 girth. I don't plan on anything other than plain vanilla for the first attempt.

For what it is worth, I referred to a full pump as "way too hard for intercourse" when we first used my implant.  Within weeks however, I did start fully inflating for intercourse, so at least in my case it is all relative to how healed I was.

Stopped the Flop, I don't care how hard you pump it, just don't flip flop on us. Political season is over and we would not be able to take any more. Hope you continue to due well. Keep in mind, she can stretch too. Remember, kids come out of that thing! Then they become teenagers and you wish you could stuff them back in. Cheers.

Thanks for posting the post surgical report info Floppy. There was a question about if Dr. Eid performs incisions/excisions as a part of his surgical repertoire. Thank goodness you went to him and bypassed the potential leaning penis you may have had from a less experienced surgeon.

I'm wondering if "A series of small parallel excisions were made at the level of the corporotomy, and the resulting defect was closed with a running 3-0 PDS suture" is the same as placing a graft. It does not sound like it based on the search result for PDS suture below. Here it is:

"PDS II Suture is a sterile synthetic absorbable monofilament suture made from the polyester (p-dioxanone.)

PDS II sutures are intended for use in general soft tissue approximation, including use in paediatric cardiovascular tissue, in microsurgery and in ophthalmic surgery. These sutures are particularly useful where the combination of an absorbable suture and extended wound support (up to six weeks) is desirable.

These sutures, being absorbable, should not be used where prolonged (beyond 6 weeks) approximation of tissues under stress is required or in conjunction with prosthetic devices, for example, heart valves or synthetic grafts."

Hawk, this brings up another potential criteria for your implant surgeons list. I've noticed of the "name brand" urologists CRAM their schedules, seemingly in an effort to see the maximum number of patients in the shortest period of time. Not only doctors who perform implants but other urological procedures as well.

Some of them jump from patient to patient so they can have two patients on the schedule at the same time (Dr. Gelman in CA did this - first he was 50 minutes late for my appointment, then kept disappearing/reappearing with exits from the room.) This was just for an office visit, mind you, but you have to wonder if that carries over to other part of his practice.

I'm not sure how we'd find that out other than our own impressions based on our usage of their practices. But as a patient I don't the idea of "cramming" one bit.

Quote from: FloppyNoMore on November 09, 2018, 03:49:22 PM
Day 14
This morning I got the operative Report of my surgery
Here is what I found out from reading Dr. Eid's full report.

e] Correction of penile angulation.

Examination of the penis with the cylinders fully inflated revealed the presence of a mild curvature to the left. The area of deformaty was determined to be proximal near the base of the penis Using a combination of superficial incisions and blunt modeling of the tunica albuginea, the defect is corrected. Further disection was done to expose the tunica albuginea on the side of the penile shaft near the base the penis. A series of small parallel excisions were made at the level of the corporotomy, and the resulting defect was closed with a running 3-0 PDS suture. An erection was induced again to test the adequacy of the repair. Marked improvement of the shape of the penile shaft was noted. the cylinders were deflated and re inflated and the patient's penis was re-examined. The correction of angulation accomplished, we turned our attention to the next part of the procedure.

I have exactly this, exactly the same in my report

You guys find it weird or just interesting? Same thing on surgical report ?

Day 17
Not a lot to report today still quite uncomfortable due to the swelling on the left side. I called Dr.Eid today to ask some questions. What I found out is the left side is where he makes his access for the reservoir and that creates a lot of tissue trauma in that area hence there is more recovery time. I also found out that in some patients the antibiotics deplete the natural bacteria on the scrotum that ends up causing a mild fungal infection that causes the itch that i was experiencing there. He prescribe a anti fungal cream to help relieve it. He told me that the healing time for the left is quite bit longer than the right and it could take a couple of months to equalize.I spent the day working in my wood work shop with some discomfort but it was good to be out and doing something i like/
Dave

Day 18
Hard to believe that the time has gone by.  In the first few days of the first week it seems like every minute takes a day every day takes a month but as the days build up things start to heal. You don't notice them as they happen: Then you see a change. This morning I went for my 6 o'clock pump in the tub .  To my surprise I managed 40 pumps to get  to the marble at this point. I sat back and started playing solitaire on my phone . Set the timer after three games of solitaire I looked at the time and I was already in 13 minutes I thought to myself wow doesn't hurt . I've only got a few more minutes to go. I wiggled it around and managed two more Mimi pumps . Times up . Deflate I have been doing better on the deflate issue I find that I now hold in the button for a count of 5. Then I lay back in the tub and take both of my index fingers and place them along the shaft finger tips pointing down. I then bring my legs together to squeeze the shaft the length of my fingers . When the tubes are soft and palpable I move down and do it again and again till I can feel the tubing. One more slide from top to bottom to get out the last drops and that's it I have not had any auto inflate problems with this method and I don't squeeze the pump once after.
I have a call into the technical department at Coloplast Titan requesting a hydraulic schematic of the workings of the system. I wonder if I'll get it.
3 more days till test flight  (:-)/

Great report.  Oh, I think you owe me money.  I knew you would never wait until her birthday ;)



Your analysis is spot on.  Those first days are pain, discomfort, lack of understanding or vision about how this is going to work or progress.  Then time begins to work its magic.  A great surgeon and time fix you.

Hawk I have bad news I'm going to lose the bet. Things change on a daily basis for example yesterday was by far the most comfortable day since the surgery all day I hardly noticed any discomfort. Around 5 o'clock I started to feel a bit off and of course Started to worry. Not sure what was going on. The first thing that you think of is do I have an infection. No signs of fever no pain in the pump. In fact you would need a high powered microscope to find where the incision was . So what the hell is going on . I text Dr. Eid 3 minuets later he texted me back we go back and forth for Ten minutes end results sounds like a bug virus maybe dehydration. He tells me you're symptoms don't look like infection . So I eat a banana drink a bit  of salty water go to bed sleep ok got up tho morning felt better. Talked about how I felt with my wife she said don't over analyze things . " want to try that thing out tonight " sound like a plan so now I won't be able to concentrate on  anything all day. Men really do think with their dicks😇

Hey,  you are 2 days early, that's cheating.   ;)

Like you I had a little phobia of infection, who doesn't.  Dr. Eid told me the first sign is almost always a change in how the pump feels.  The details of the pump are not decernable.  Then pain increase.  He said fever etc are only if the infection has been allowed to go unchecked and you start to go septic.  He said the reason antibiotics NEVER work to save the implant is the body walls off the infection, encapsulates it.

Btw, I had those occasional days were I felt like I slid back.  That is why I tend to say - you might not improve every day but you will see improvement every couple days.

Minor setback yesterday I started to feel very off dizzy nauseous general yuk I called Dr.Eid. He sent me a script for blood work. This morning the results came back everything was perfect no chance Of infection white blood count perfect.Yahoo. But what's the problem. He said I should go see my GP. I just came back from the appointment. Turns out I have BPPV vertigo. This was most likely caused by spending a lot of time in bed . Apparently there are calcium deposits in your inner ear that regulate balance these so called stones can be jarred loose by sudden moves like getting in and out of bed multiple time a day. I was given a ten day supply of a medication to treat it and was told it's very likely to be gone in a day or two. So Hawk it looks like it will more than likely be a tie. As the recovery has been right on schedule. That was a total relief

This is the truest sign of brotherhood:  Try this and maybe there is still hope to beat me.    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtJB5Vx7Xqo

A bit sore but it's working🚀

Congratulations !!! 
I felt I needed a hot soak afterward because my scrotum was contracted and I was not used to deflating without a relaxed scrotum. 

It is exciting to see another brother returned to full capacity by a great surgeon and a little time.

 Trying to define that inflate deflate button when your scrotum is tight it's almost impossible maybe you'll get better I hope

It definitely gets better.  I actually had two issues.  I always inflated and deflated in the tub during the first 3 weeks.  That meant that I was dealing with a very relaxed scrotum AND that I was lying down.  The first time I had sex my scrotum was tight and I stood up to deflate.  It served to both make the deflate button difficult to feel through the skin, and disoriented me as to the angle to even find the button.   Now that I have deflated standing close to a hundred times, I know exactly where to slide the thumb of my right hand to settle on the concave grip opposite the button.  I can find it without even thinking about it.

Once you find it standing up just take your hand off and replace it 4 or 5 times until your mind makes note of where it is.  The rest is similar to finger muscle memory when playing a musical instrument.

Seems odd but I recently discovered when my ball sack has disappeared all the way up to my navel after being outside, that I can grab each side of it and stretch it out slowly to loose sack state, then do as I please with the pump.

Another successful surgery by Dr Eid! Congrats floppy. Hope you have plenty of fun with it!

For now I will stick with either a shower or soak in the tub as a pre flight check as far as deflating Im going to try to do it out of the water .

After a less than 48 hour rest it was time for round two. The first attempt was real good a test to see if it could get off the ground. Well round two was a lot more intense three different positions and a lot of hard thrusting. everything was going great till we tried cowgirl. After five minutes of grinding away I had to throw in the towel it hurt too much to continue more pain than pleasure. Although the pleasure was real I think its just a bit to early to be getting it on like that. I am still sore and I think I may just give it a few more days rest.  The woman on top position puts weight on the pump with the back and forth movements I think that that position should be one for a few months not three and a half weeks post surgery. ;)

As soon as you said you tried cowgirl at 22 days I actually yelled "NO!" under my breath.  You will be fine with that in about another month but for now, enjoy what works, especially since that still gives you many options.

I can hear you yelling flop-a-gone gone from here. Cheers man!

Today a new journey begins in a few hours I will start the 1500 mile drive to my winter home in southwest Florida. 25 days post op and feeling pretty good just a few minor aches and pains but nothing at all like the first week. I actually think that we should call that" HELL WEEK" as we are not ready for all that happens in those first days and we wonder if this was really what we bought into. Then things start to stabilize. It's  so easy to look back and so very hard to see forward. I still have several things that need more time to settle in but with the experience I've gained from these last 25 days I'm confident that next week there will be one less issue and the next one less till they have all resolved themselves. There is no way that I can stress the fact that the single most important thing in this process is to choose the right surgeon the one that knows what he's doing the guy that has done so many of these that its second nature to him.

Instead of flop we now hear whop whop whop as the headboard hits the wall. Are you going to need a new headboard pal or are you just going to grind sand into it in sunny Florida? Cheers man. Glad all is well.

It's 4 weeks to the day. My how time flies when your waiting for your Dick to heal lol. It's  been a long 4 weeks with some moments of regret and others with joy. This is a definite journey a long and winding road with hills valleys sharp curves and everything in between. The days now are a lot better but still not near the destination. I would guess that the journey ends some where near a point that you feel like it's the new normal, not that your trying to accept where you are, but being comfortable with the moment. There are still fleeting jabs of pain and a feeling of presence not always discomfort but you feel it's there and sometimes you would like to just forget about the whole thing for the better part of a day but the drill of cycling keeps that from being a reality at least for now. When I pump some times I can squeeze the pump to the point it is flat finger to finger others it seem to fight back sometimes it is so rock hard it literally feels like bone. The odd part is not every time is the same . Sex is doable but it feels a bit mechanical as I don't think that we have crossed the acceptance line completely. It's now kind of let's see if it works stick it in because you have not been able to for so long it's different it's not bad by any means but it's different. Enjoyability  is measured next to discomfort if one is at a higher level than the other that's the one that prevails.
This pump till it hurts then leave it there for 15-20 minutes is really no fun I wonder what the consequences of not pumping to pain would be would we be able to enjoy the implant as much if it were 1 cm shorter and we had no pain or is it in our head that we must do everything in our power to squeeze out every last millimeter of it so we feel that we can justify the whole thing. I'm rambling trying to make total sense out this new appendage that I'm now the owner of after having a different one for 66 years.
You guys that have had an implant for a year or more did you have similar feelings along the way is the period of acceptance the same for everyone or are some people just trying to present that everything is totally ok and they are not at all dissatisfied .
What about the satisfaction rate 95% satisfied 5% where do these people stand what is it did they miss something did their doctors not do things right or are they not able to disconnect from the past and be in the here and now.

FNM, I read your post with great interest.  It is hard to say you know how someone else feels physically or mentally but I could easily believe you are physically very much right on pace with me (random little stabbing pains, minor discomfort, and constant awareness).  It at least seems what is different is your feelings about where you are and your satisfaction.  At one month there was no doubt I would have preferred staying at that stage of progression to going back to planning every sexual encounter and still choreographing the actual act to make it work.  I was exhilarated to be at that stage at month one,  especially knowing it was only going to get even better.  The difference may be that you were wise enough to jump on this within months of a prostatectomy and it took me 15 years (almost embarrassed to admit).  I clearly know the alternative and had it driven into my mind.

As I sit here and type I can squirm, squeeze my legs together and nothing even slightly suggests to me I have an implant.  If I grab my deflated dick through my clothes and feel around I can tell but I usually don't do that through the day.  My very first intercourse at day 21 was awesome even though I felt I had to hit a hot soak immediately when it was over.  You might want to consider a few mind games.  Forget sex for a couple weeks.  Concentrate on golf or whatever else interests you.  Wait until you and the wife are both really horny.  By that time you will be halfway to the 3-month plateau.  At 3 months 90% of your progress is behind you.  Go do something that takes full concentration like skydiving and see how neat it is to say "wow, I haven't thought about my penis all day.  Even a real competitive round of golf might do it.

I am very interested in seeing this develop over the next two months and look forward to your brutely frank assessment.

Cheers.

Don't get me wrong I'm totally on board with my decision and if anything I would agree with the statement that it was soon after the prostatectomy and if you compare where I was 6 months ago to where I am now the former was better but that's because it was still working so maybe the time frame is a point. I was a very horny guy with an equally horny wife and things were easy then came the Robot that killed it dead on arrival not a spark of Life could be injected drugged  or vacuumed to put it back to May 30 th before the operation.
So I could be a bit disconnected from what I'm at today the sex is good but there is still pain and that takes a lot away from the experience. Time is what I need to get over the pain I will be getting better I know. I see it happen on a regular basis but as all men I'm impatient and want it all now. I just got out of the tub after 40 good  pumps and I'm sitting typing this and I can't tell that twenty minutes ago I was gritting my teeth looking at the clock to press the escape button. Two weeks ago if I could have done 40 pumps I would likely have passed out from the pain . There is absolutely no doubt this is a "JOURNEY" and it takes a lot of time and perseverance. All good and cancer free!
Dave

Tell your wife that you are going through 3 months of daily agony pumping up to just to give her an extra centimeter.  Maybe it will be at least worth your favorite dessert.

Dr. Eid does not instruct to cycle after you start having sex.  He doesn't care (according to Myra).

I have gained almost a half inch however and when I skip a day of cycling, I can feel it tight and discomfort the next day so I feel I am still getting some good out of it.

As I think that most women would tell you that it the girth that's most important as the nerves in the vagina are in the first few inches in and there is no real benefits to going to the bottom or bouncing off the cervix. I have not measured in two weeks but at that point the girth was at 6.75" and it may have stretched a bit more in the last two weeks. I think that Myra is partly right if your having sex on a somewhat regular basis then it's probably ok to just cycle on the days you don't, and once is more likely all it takes to keep things at a comfortable place. I don't know if we are looking at a senerio like after prostatectomy where things shrink from lack of use. I
Hope that's not the case.
Dave

Dave,

6.75 " has to be a 1 in 500 or 1 in 1000 penis girth.  Several studies in both single-country studies and multiple-country studies indicate the average girth is 4.59".   That size has to totally rule out BJ's.  Maybe you better stop cycling because if you gain any girth your wife could have you locked up for assault with a deadly weapon.  Hmmmm, or maybe assault with a friendly weapon.

@hawk what do you mean by ''Myra says he doesn't care? ''

Basically, she conveyed to me that as long as you are inflating one or twice a week for sex, no other cycling was necessary after beyond 30 days post-op.

From other bits and pieces of his instructions and comments, I think it would be accurate to say his view is that it ultimately will make no difference in size.  He doesn't consider 1/4" worth talking about and he is of the view that it is only apt to shorten the life of the implant.

It is hard to disagree with him since he has been right about everything else he has said or projected about my progress and outcome.  I have slowly gained size but who is to say I would not have done that without cycling?  If I recall, in Merrix's journal he mentioned he continued to gain size through a period of not cycling.

At a bit over a month I now feel about 90% last week was 80% I hope
To be at 100% by January 26th my three month mark. The most important thing that I will say is be cool relax think of the moment look down the road it's not a hundred  miles it's a few more
days till things change and it happens faster than we think at week one it's holly crap then at week two it's why is this not happening at week three it's things have got a bit better at week four it's why was I such a p~$$% things are pretty Good. When your cut up
In the most private place that only you know then it's minute to minute oh how difficult it
Is to have faith in the next few days
Life is good and getting better every single day.

It's been a great journey with a bump Here and there but at the end of the day I couldn't be happier I have all and then some of what I started with and best of all it works just fine. What more could I ask for. Yea I could be a porn star but hen if I was who would I be F~