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Hi guys,

I've been reading this forum a little while now and wanted to post up a question.
I just had an appointment with a urologists today and he was completely useless.  Just said the usual vitamin e/then surgery options.  I asked him to prescribe me some pentox but he said he wasnt allowed.
Has anyone in the UK had this prescribed for them on the NHS?

I'm so annoyed at the moment, was reading alot of good things about it before my appointment and feeling a bit more positive about things, but this has really set me back emotionally.

If not, does anyone know somewhere reputable to buy it online?  Or failing that, I'm going to guatemala this weekend, do you think i'd be able to buy it over the counter there?  From what I know in that part of the world it is generally easier to get whatever drug you want as long as you can pay for it.

Thanks for any help you can give me, this really is a great forum.

Phil

There are guys here on the forum that should be able to advise you on the UK side of this question.  As for Guatemala, having been in Guatemala on multiple equations, I can tell you that I really doubt that you would have any problem obtaining Pentoxifylline in Guatemala without a prescription unless things have changed a lot since I have been there.  Even if not, I would suggest you take with you the Pentox PDFs on this website, since I believe with some certainty that you could easily convince a urologist in Guatemala to prescribe it for you since they are not under the same ridiculous liability issues there.  - George

George, that's good news about Guatemala.  So do you think I'd just be able to go in off the street and get it from a pharmacist or would I have to see a doctor first?  I'm only there a month so it might be hard to get an appointment sorted.

Really appreciate the help

Given the nature and safety of Pentoxifylline, I strongly believe that just about any pharmacy in Guatemala would sell it to you over the counter.  But appointments with private doctors in most Central American countries are easy to come by.  I have made one month visits to both Guatemala and Costa Rica in the past and was able to get doctor appointments within a few days in both countries with no problem.  Money talks in those countries and I am sure that pounds or euros would talk every bit as loud as dollars.  You should be able to leave Guatemala with probably a six month supply of Pentox if you like as long as you can get it back through customs at home.  That would be my bigger concern.  I have known people living in the US who routinely visit Central America for medical care AND prescription needs.  Personally I prefer Costa Rica since things are a little more stable there (an understatement actually), but both countries have good access to medical care for travelers.  - George

Ok thanks George, I'll try picking up 6 months worth seeing as the NHS are really not keen to prescribe it to me here...

Wow, first I become a peyronie's sufferer, then a drug mule...exciting times!

Quote from: phil_t on February 04, 2010, 02:04:02 PM
Hi guys,

I've been reading this forum a little while now and wanted to post up a question.
I just had an appointment with a urologists today and he was completely useless.  Just said the usual vitamin e/then surgery options.  I asked him to prescribe me some pentox but he said he wasnt allowed.
Has anyone in the UK had this prescribed for them on the NHS?

Hi Phil. Cant you tell me which doc you saw in which town? I hear Dr Ralph will prescribe it, he is in London.

We have our first appointment next week, not with him though, and in a different city, so I am worried we get the same reply.

Kind regards,

R

My husbands PCP decided today when we called in for a refill that she no longer feels comfortable prescribing Pentox..that it is not her specialty and she has a small consultation office and is afraid of getting sued if he gets malpractice happy if he doesn't see results.
We don't have insurance so seeing a urologist is tricky, and costly.
He has been having great results using Pentox over the last month or so..and I saw someone recommend River Pharmacy online..has anyone else purchased their pentox through them (or any other med)?  Or any other online pharmacy?
Thanks!

I don't know about the pharmacy, but I would seriously consider a new PCP.

Tim

I bought mine from RxCanada.. No problems provided you have a US prescription...

Hi:

Yes ,I have order from riverpharmacy! Canadian pharmacy that ships from India . I was told it would take a month for my meds to arrive. It only took 8 days ! Wow, because I have personal career knowledge of foreign and domestic shipping.

This being said, I hope that my next ship comes in soon!  I will try others later to save bucks.
Satisfied customer so far: yours truly fubar

You can actually get Pentox (Trental) from Alldaychemistry in India. No Rx required. I use ADC for Levitra and it works as well as the drug here in the US.

Iamthewife:

Just received my second shipment from river pharmacy today.They also sent me an E-mail that it was delivered.I was surprised it took only over a week again. They send their packages by express mail! All the way from India no prescription required .

I find them very credible and fast.Remember this is a company from Canada shipping from India. I have found Debbie and Karen who I have made my orders with very pleasant to have conversation with,easy ordering takes a second.

Good luck, fubar

Someone pointed out a while back that pentox from riverpharamacy is very cheap (as in, so cheap it made them suspicious of it). From researching, the price does appear to be within the parameters of the cheap end of what the drug can be bought for with a prescription. The website also has a decent reputation. However, it might be a good idea to get a sample tested so that people can have more peace of mind. I don't know how to go about it, but it might be something worth looking into as a community for piece of mind for those who struggle to get with a doctor familiar with modern treatments.

Newguy

Yes it is of very low cost to purchase pentox and cialis.I for one get my meds free of charge through the VA. I take a bag full of meds due to heart disease and diabetes along with a hand full of other medical issues. The company I work for carries good medical coverage,  my heart attack surgery, hospital stay cost me 186.00.

Having these medical issues my doctor was reluctant to prescribe lavetra the substitute for cialis at the VA. They only give you one tab a week,  this was not going to work for me. Filling a prescription at Walmart for cialis 10 tabs 240.00 with insurance copay  still 197.00 $. At RIver pharmacy I receive 40 tabs 20mg strength for 130.00 something I think. A ll I know is that I do have erections all night long and in the morning.

So to me the proof is in the pudding. Yes there could be some chemical in the drug that is bad for you but I feel that way about all the meds I take.Also I am sure many of our generic drugs are out sourced along with everything else. I'm greatful for being able to purchase something that works and saving lots of money.

Spending 3 dollars on a pill rather than 24 dollars a pill has worked well for me. I'm not saying its the ideal situation but I see no difference in the cialis and this generic from India. I also buy my pentox from them, at about 18 cents a pill if my memory serves me.
My last purchase of 40 tabs of cialis and 240 pills of pentox was 176.00 approximately and shipping was free.

I told a vascular surgeon I was taking pentox before being diagnosed with PAD. She said I should keep taking it.Funny something I new for the past year with all my symptoms including ED. I thought pentox would also help my diseased leg. I was right it is used for PAD.

I will be hitting my doctor up for a script sense I have two reasons to have it. I will be doing this for one reason only it will be free .


I have had results with the pentox as well better circulation,  my legs are not tired or sore.Yes I took a risk I was not going to wait and find out if it was going to get better on its own. It has paid off for me and am thankful. Of course when you go out of country for meds you are doing this  at your own risk.

I am just stating this as my own experience and it has helped me and no script required helped a lot with the slow process of getting nothing done at my appointments.

Fubar

Hi, I'm a new member but stumbled onto this forum after being diagnosed 4-5 months ago with peyronie's. I live in MD and am trying to find a doctor that will prescribe me Pentox. Here's a breif over view of my story.

I woke up to have a lump right under the head of my penis the first tuesday of September. I imediatly went to my GP he examined me and told me to wait a week and if it was still there he would refer me to a uro. Well it was still there a week later and I went and saw uro he said he thought it was peyronie's and to wait two months and come back. I did that and he ended up putting me on Potaba, which I have been on for two months. He told me also that I should probably go see a peyronie's specialist as he isn't well versed with peyronie's. I then went to John Hopkins and saw a peyronie's specialist by the name of Burnett who bascially told me he's sorry but there's nothing we can do. I asked him about effectiveness of Potaba and Pentox and anything else that might help. His response was there's nothing we can do I won't prescribe you any medicine because none have been proven to be successful. This disappointed me, so I asked the euro I saw before if he would prescribe me pentox and he said he's never dealt with it and doesn't feel comfortable prescribing it having never done so. I told him about this forum and the studies and how Dr Lue uses it he was familiar with him but still wouldn't prescribe it to me. I don't have any bending but just hour glassing near the upper right side of my penis. It hurts all the time, and even if the meds aren't 100% I want to try them. I'm currently taking the following:

Potoaba 24 pills a day
CoQ10 2 400mg pills a day
Neprinol 3 pills 3x a day
MSM 1 pill 3x a day
Omega 3 once a day

I was hoping to add or replace Potaba with the Pentox, but need to find a doctor that will prescribe it to me so I figured maybe someone knows a doctor in md that will prescribe it for me. I tried ordering it from one of the links posted in one of the topics on here but never recieved my shipment I believe it was mexmeds and they never returned my calls or emails either. Any info you have would be greatly appreciated.

Welcome to our elite little group here.  Hopefully someone will respond with a suggestion.  You might also post this same question under the "Urologists and Other Doctors" topic.  That is usually the best place around here to find a doctor.  - George

rd

I searched this forum and the net as well and found what I thought were the best articles relative to Peyronies Disease, pentox, and my personal medical history.  I took the documentation to my family physician and he wrote the script.

Do whatever it takes to acquire whatever treatment you think is best for you. Doing nothing is the sure way to go untreated.  Also keep searching this forum because, in my opinion, what you will find available here is more knowledge and expertise than any one physician has about Peyronies Disease.

Good luck

Hello rd

Sorry to hear you are having problems finding a doctor or urologist to work with you.This seems to be a common problem we suffers of Peyronie's have. I have an appointment with a urologist here in Washington state who I know prescribes pentox. I have been puchasimg cialis and pentox ( trental) from a Canadian company called riverpharmacy starting at June of last year.They have sent me three shipments they take about 8 days to arrive it took two weeks though when I ordered in December.They ship from India there you do not need a prescription so it is not a problem.How ever you can only order a certain amount because customs opens at a certain weight.
I ordered 360 pentox tabs at 400 mg also some cialis.I trust them, they even send you and E-mail mail when it arrives at your post office.Their web address is riverpharmacy.CA it use to be a .com.

Be sure to spend time reading the forum and the different boards their is a treasure of information here.George 999 , oldman, Tim 468 and many other veterans of this forum are a good source read their post and become informed.Print out the case studies of pentox and co q10 and what ever you need to s their decision in your favor.




Fubar





The medicine I have purchased from this company definately works or I would not keep ordering.

Thank's for the replies. I found on this forum after posting alldaychemist which I placed a order for pentox through. It wasn't very expensive either. I tried riverpharmacy but I could never get into there site always said it couldn't load the page. One other question is, I'm currently taking potaba and ordered the pentox, could these be taken together? I figure if both have some success as small as it maybe why not try both and give yourself a better chance. I appreciate all the feed back and have been reading through the forum and appreciate all the knowledge you all share. Oh and sorry about the posting in the wrong area, wasn't sure where I should post this message.

When ordering meds from Canada, how is the the currency conversion rate calculated?

RD,

When "combining" meds, you should always ask a doctor or pharmacist.  Others may offer different opinions, however, some of this stuff can be tricky.

I agree with Nick on this.  I assume you are getting Potaba from a local pharmacist.  If I were you I would ask the pharmacist directly if there would be any conflict between Potaba and Pentoxifylline.  The pharmacist can give you an authoritative answer to this question very likely right off the top of their head since they deal with these questions day in and day out.  Personally, I would prefer a pharmacists answer to that of a physician.  Pharmacists tend to be the pros when it comes to drug interactions and side effects.  - George

There seems to be a Pentox shortage from the supplier. I'm in Canada, don't know how it effects the rest of the world. I wonder what caused this as the Pharmasist I talked to didn't have a reason to give me but said it's not being discontinued. So you all might want to stock up or be prepared. Imagine they discontinued this for some reason and this is the warning sign...

It is beyond imagining that they would discontinue it after all these years.  There has to be a very thin market for it.  I'm wondering what with it being more widely used for the treatment of Peyronie's, if the few manufacturers like Teva are having a difficult time keeping up?  - George

Quote from: crashbandit on January 31, 2011, 05:52:28 PM
There seems to be a Pentox shortage from the supplier. I'm in Canada, don't know how it effects the rest of the world. I wonder what caused this as the Pharmasist I talked to didn't have a reason to give me but said it's not being discontinued. So you all might want to stock up or be prepared. Imagine they discontinued this for some reason and this is the warning sign...

I just ordered 4 months worth from alldaychem, and I can confirm it is genuine.*


* Real pentox always gives me an immediate increase in erection strength.

I just ordered a 90 day supply (270 pills) from healthwarehouse.com for $79.50 delivered.  Paid cash as it was cheaper than my insurance co-pay.  Go figure.  They are made by Teva.  Terrific customer service.  You need a real doctor's prescription as this is not a fly by night online pharmacy.  They don't prescribe over the phone - they are just a pharmacy.  I recommend them.

Hopefully the shortage is temporary and limited to one supplier. As is said bwlow, maybe the demand has picked up a bit. I can't for one moment think that they would discontinue it.

Just curious skunkworks.  Have you ever taken fake Pentox?
I got mine from RiverPharmacy.  I hope its real.

I refilled a prescription today, no problem.  My prescription is for a month (3 pills daily).

I'm sure if there is any increased demand for pentox then the pentox manufacturers are more than economically motivated to supply that demand.

CF

Quote from: skunkworks on January 31, 2011, 11:36:49 PM
I just ordered 4 months worth from alldaychem, and I can confirm it is genuine.*


* Real pentox always gives me an immediate increase in erection strength.

I just did the same

Yeah Im from canada and keep waiting for them to bring in shipments. I just keep going around and getting like a month supply 2 weeks supply whatever I can get lol. The pharmacy sais they hope they dont discontinue this when I asked her if there is going to be a discontinue.

I dug around a bit and pentox has made it onto this shortage list: http://www.ashp.org/DrugShortages/Current/  It's a temporary issue though, due to one supplier discontinuing. Several still supply the drug though, and I've had no trouble ordering it myself.

Thanks Newguy for that information.  It explains a lot.  But actually this involves two US pharmaceutical companies.  According to your link, Major Pharmaceuticals in Michigan has indeed discontinued production of Pentoxifylline.  But ADDITIONALLY during the same period of time, Apotex Pharmaceuticals in Florida was shut down by the US Food and Drug Admistration, apparently due to quality control issues, but is now back up and running again.  Four other pharmaceutical companies have Pentoxifylline available to ship.  Thus the "shortage" likely has to do with individual pharmacies "discovering" new suppliers for the drug after customarily buying it from one of the above two, or in the case of Apotex, waiting for them to begin shipping again.  - George

I called my pharmacy and ordered a 3 month supply of pentox and got it will be getting it in 2 days.

Where can I get it online? Because, I went to my uroligist and even showed him a picture of my bend, (which can be very dramatic sometimes when about 50% erect, like 25 degrees) (slately all of my erections, when full, have developed a 5 degree bend to the right too, and I can feel a pull on that side). However, regardless of the photo, of both my erection (with the slight new bend), and being half erect (when the bend is most prominent), he refuses to prescribe me anything, and says that because he cannot feel anything and because my doppler came up fine, that it is impossible that I have the disease. F~@< that though. It is very clear that I have it, it is just that the plaque isnt easily detectable....

I went to another urologist and the same story....

So I neeeeeeed to jump on this and NOW. I am looking to get into a whole protocol ESPECIALLY including ubiquinol and pentox, but  I cant get a prescription.... So I have no choice but to get it through an online source guys. So where in the hell can I get this stuff from? Where have you guys gotten it or do you know of/have used anywhere online to get it?

You need to go see a peyronies disease specialist try to find one.

I got my 3 months of pentox today.

find a peyronies disease specialist normal urologists dont know what there doing when it comes to peyronies disease.

Hey guys.  My general doctor tells me he can't prescribe me Pentox because he not a specialist.  I'm not sure when i can see my urologist yet because it takes time to make an appointment.

I read that some of you guys can buy Pentox online as oppose to get it prescribed.  Can you guys tell me what site you buy it from?  I read someone mentioned alldaychemist?  I asked Old Man about this and he says to ask this on the forum because he got his pentox from his doctor.

I also want to know, is the pentox that is bought online lesser quality than the one that is prescribed?  It should still have the same effects right?

Thanks.

I'm from new york city.

I see it on alldaychemist.com and its very cheap.  They call it pentox (Trental)

It's  $2.22 for 15 pills but i'm not sure if those are effective like the ones that are prescribed by a urologist.  There was one member who posted he bought it from alldaychemist and said its genuine.

And if i buy it from alldaychemist, how many packs should i buy?  Many mention that you take 3 per day so thus this 15 pills would be 5 days.  Should i buy 6 packs, thus 90 pills then per month?  I see its 100mg.


But is the one prescribed much stronger/different/effective than the ones that is bought online?


I'm pretty sure i'm going to have a very tough time getting a urologist to prescribe me this since many people say most don't.  And even if i get to see a peyronie's doctor, it would take at least 1-2 months before i see him and if he would prescribe it. 

Quick,  As far as I know, you have not even gotten a confirmed diagnoses of Peyronie's yet.  You REALLY need to get that BEFORE you start on something like Pentoxifylline.  Go ahead and start with the ALC and CoQ10, those are fine.  But DON'T start taking a prescription drug until a DOCTOR tells you that you DO HAVE Peyronie's.  - George

George,
I agree he hasn't been diagnosed, but he states he does have some pain. While I don't think this directly implies Peyronies Disease, I wonder if the Pentox could help with the pain/blood flow. I don't think Pentox is solely for Peyronies Disease sufferers.

Les,  I simply think we need to not throw caution to the wind when it comes to taking prescription meds.  Granted Pentox IS pretty benign, but I really think he needs a diagnoses FIRST, since who know what it might be going on and Murphy's Law can work in nasty ways when it comes to prescription meds.  I admit that I am overly cautious on these things.  I think that Ubiquinol is much safer and can likely be as helpful at this point as Pentoxifylline.  - George

Fraudulent charges showed up on my debit card this week. I rarely order online, but from looking at the alldaychemist facebook page, it appears that thre's a chance that they are linked to this:

http://www.facebook.com/alldaychemist2

If you order from them, be sure to use a prepaid credit card, or at least some form of payment where you can be reimbursed in a worst case scenario. I have absolutely no issue with their medications, but the security side of things is worrying me a little. The only thing I can say in their favour regarding this situation, is that they've left up all of the negative feedback on their facebook page and appear to be trying to do something about this.

Guys,

I think the problem is most urologists won't work with the patient, even when I took in studies and reports, most think they know it all, or won't listen.  Its hard to diagnose anything when people don't listen to you, or are just ignorant.  In a perfect world we could get lots of tests done, diagnose problems effectively, have doctors listen to us and give us a workout schedule, meal schedule etc, but the real world doesn't work like that.  I think taking pentox won't hurt this guy if he has no health problems, do what you have to, to get the damn drug and try it.  It worked really well for me, after years of nothing but vitamin E and urologists who didn't listen to me.

Comebackid

Newguy,

What country is the company located in, yours?  I buy stuff online a lot, I have a credit union, and a credit card through them.  I would not recomend EVER using your DEBIT card when making an online purchase, as this will come through as a direct pull from your checking account, or be like a check card purchase on hold.  Use a CREDIT card, with VISA, if it is lost, stolen, or there is fraud your only liable for the first $50, this is a way to protect yourself online.  I got overcharged once by a company, I contacted my credit union and they called the people and got me on the phone and got it straightened out, it was an error by the company, and they sent me free supplies for what I was purchasing. 

First you need to contact the seller or merchant directly, at least in the USA, then if that doesn't work notify your bank or credit union right away, don't wait.  They will get involved and know what to do.  I don't know the laws abroad, in the USA you have certain rights to dispute a credit card charge, but if your dispute is just poor quality products I don't know if you will win or not.  If your dispute is over billing, thats fraud to me and you should be able to stop that and win.

Comebackid

Thanks for the reply, ComebacKid. I don't have an awful lots of funds in that particular account, so it wasn't a huge concern. Also, my bank are refunding the two small transactions that did occur, and stopped all of those that followed. Maybe they are set up slighly differently in the UK, as the banks keep an eye out for unusual transactions (from overseas for instance, or ones that fit the hallmarks of fraud) sometimes rejecting them until approval is granted. It's a bit hit and miss though, so I agree that it probably wasn't the wisest move on my part and on another occasion I could've seriously lost out.

I've already resolved the issue as I rang my bank. They immediately discontinued my card and are sending a new one, which I will be very careful with. I very rarely used the previous one online, which is why I think I know the source of this problem. Thanks for your concern!

I agree with ComeBack on this one.  For any sort of online transaction credit cards are better.  When you use a credit card it gets processed via a truly international organization these days.  There is enough delay between the time the purchase gets posted to your account and the time the vendor actually gets paid so that just about any transaction can be stopped if you are vigilant.  With a debit card funds transfer immediately unless the bank catches the fraud.  There are PLENTY of horror stories in this regard concerning debit cards.  - George

Quote from: George999 on May 21, 2011, 10:05:40 AM
I agree with ComeBack on this one.  For any sort of online transaction credit cards are better.  When you use a credit card it gets processed via a truly international organization these days.  There is enough delay between the time the purchase gets posted to your account and the time the vendor actually gets paid so that just about any transaction can be stopped if you are vigilant.  With a debit card funds transfer immediately unless the bank catches the fraud.  There are PLENTY of horror stories in this regard concerning debit cards.  - George

Yes, I agree George. I was reading up on this and some people have lost serious amounts of money. It's quite shocking.

Newguy,

In the USA banks and credit unions keep an eye out for suspicious transactions, in fact if you go to Canada, or another country and don't tell them, some will put a hold on your own credit card , not knowing its you leaving the country.  Before I leave I always call my credit union and tell them I"m leaving the United States so they know.  Not all transactions that are shadey or "out of state," are caught either.

Always use a credit card when making purchases online.  You seem surprisingly not upset at that company for them just making fraudulent billing charges on your account Newguy, what did your bank and/or credit union say?  So you got your money back from the company?  Did they admit an error or what?  Please post as much information about them on here so our members can avoid that site.  Sometimes it takes calling the merchant and threatening legal action and lawsuits to get them to act, even if you can't do that, you have to unload on these frauds and go after them.

I guess what makes me so upset about this, is you, and the bank or the credit union shouldn't have to eat the costs, these questionable companies online need to be charged with fraud.  Especially with international commerce and transactions, laws from state to state, or country to country vary, and its not that easy to go after the people.

Comebackid

It's not that I'm not upset, comebackkid, more that I'm very relieved that the situation was not much worse. I googled and the method of testing the card for viability is very common. Basically they take out two small payments (mobile phone top-up credit) and  from then on attempt to make other purchases. As it had the hallmarks of fraud I think both I and my bank noticed it. I called them first, but they also independantly stopped all transfer after those two which came to just £30. The bank are refunding the money, but the company that received the funds.  It's possible that they will be refunding the bank though I guess. They did tell me that the mobile phone used to purchase the credit will be cut off, so I guess the bank have an ongoing relationship with the mobile company.

What made me think that it was alldaychemist was the timing and due to the fact that I use the card very seldomly. There are very many complaint online relating to alldaychemist and I'm going to piece something together and make a blog post about this (EDIT : I have now posted the alldaychemist (http://www.peyronies-disease.co.uk/2011/05/alldaychemist-credit-card-fraud.html) update) , so that people have the facts. I won't relate it specifically to myself. i've located a great many posts detailing other peoples experiences and some alldaychemist responses to them.

Quote from: ComeBacKid on May 21, 2011, 08:04:25 PM

Always use a credit card when making purchases online.  You seem surprisingly not upset at that company for them just making fraudulent billing charges on your account Newguy, what did your bank and/or credit union say?  So you got your money back from the company?  Did they admit an error or what?  Please post as much information about them on here so our members can avoid that site.  Sometimes it takes calling the merchant and threatening legal action and lawsuits to get them to act, even if you can't do that, you have to unload on these frauds and go after them.

I guess what makes me so upset about this, is you, and the bank or the credit union shouldn't have to eat the costs, these questionable companies online need to be charged with fraud.  Especially with international commerce and transactions, laws from state to state, or country to country vary, and its not that easy to go after the people.

Comebackid

Newguy,

I'm a bit confused, you mean the company did a test deposit into your account?  Thats what is done here in the USA, like if you sign up for paypal, you will get a few pennies deposited into your account as a test to make sure it works, maybe once or twice, but nothing is ever taken out.  Also I'm confused cause now your mentioning a mobile phone, huh?  I would never use my mobile phone to make purchase, I'd use a credit card.  So alldaychemist took 30 euro and then gave it back when the bank called them?  Please explain in more detail I'm lost.

Comebackid

I'm not doing a great job of explaining this :). What I mean is that here at least when someone steals your card details, they tend to at first make a small withdrawal, say a few pounds to see that the card is stil active. If this withdrawal is successful, they effectively have impunity to go on something of a shopping spree. In this case the initial fraudulent transaction was a mobile phone top-up payment. This raised suspicions with myself and my bank so thankfully the card was discontinued at the time and further attempts at wirthdrawals did not go through (though they were attempted).

I have no proof that alldaychemist are directly linked to leaking my details, though my bank do seem sure that due to the pattern of this fraud it occured online. I very seldom use the card online and alldaychemist appears to be the one of the only potential opportunties there was to steal my details. I checked out their facebook group and complaints of this nature are very frequent. Further digging appeared to reveal slightly unsettling comments from the company, and they admitted to moving to a more secure server recently, saying that purchases made before a certain date may be more likely to result in these issues. Quite a startling admission.

Quote from: ComeBacKid on May 22, 2011, 01:02:28 AM
I'm a bit confused, you mean the company did a test deposit into your account?  Thats what is done here in the USA, like if you sign up for paypal, you will get a few pennies deposited into your account as a test to make sure it works, maybe once or twice, but nothing is ever taken out.

Test deposits and test withdrawals are also how the crooks check on whether the account is active before they go on the shopping spree.  So when you see unexpected penny size transactions posting to your account, take action.  Fortunately, most of the card companies are currently also on the lookout for this stuff.  - George

Yep, Creditcard companies not only watch for internet transactions... I went to the south of france last year, but instead of direct flight, I had to take a flight via poland and had a 50 minute stop in Warsaw airport. I bought something there with my credit card. Once arrived in south of france I took my rental car with the same card. In the evening I had an email from Mastercard asking me if my creditcard got stolen because they had 3 transactions on the same day in 3 different countries (Vienna - Warsaw - Nice) . So I suppose they have computer programs watching out for all  kind of stuff.
Luc

hey so does anyone have an answer about the pentox quality etc

i just typed in a search and right off the bat came up with 400 mg trental pentoxifylline 90 count 40 bux and less expensive more u buy. after i look on this forum and double check the dangers of pentox and the dosage and make sure trental is the right variety im gonna order it. the site is health warehouse.

crap i jumped the gun on that one i need a pescription to order on that site 1meds.com seems to be ok without pescription i will post in a few days with my purchase they hav the flexital  400 mg 100 ct for 53.00 or the trental 60 ct for 38.00

hello ,
If you live in Massachusetts, please let me know ....I can find a urologist to see you today....do NOT buy on line....have your insurance pay for it....let me know..
also, do not start taking these meds before you get diagnosed.....

Just went to refill my prescription at walmart. I've been paying 32 bucks for 90 pills since I've been on it (3 months) and now it's $101. Is it normal for drug prizes to triple? Just wondering bc this is my first prescription I've ever taken where I had refill

Holy crap, I paid $140 for 3 months of pills.  :O

Two weeks ago I paid $17 for half (45 pills), today they're $52.

I just paid $ 66.32 for 270 tablets online.

I get mine at Walmart as well and paid the $32 dollar price you did, the price was the same every time, last time I filled them was in late summer, never saw an increase in price, that sounds steep buddy, I'd double check that, or try another local walmart pharmacy and check the price there.  As much as I rip walmart I do give them credit on their drug prices they have made  alot of drugs affordable for the lower income people. 

Comebackid

here in europe the pharmacy prices are about the same in all pharmacies.
why? because if you have a prescription and if you are on social security you only pay a fix amount.
example in austria: its € 5.50 (about $7.40).
social security pays the rest.
As 90% of people here have prescriptions on social security, the social security wont pay different prices depending on what pharmacy you go.. so thats why they negociate the price once every 2 years.

I get pentox without a prescription, so I have to pay the full price.
Here are the prices in europe for trental and generics  (they can vary from country to country - but will be close to this - a few cents difference)

TRENTAL 400 mg Retardtabl. rp    50 pack.     € 18,37 ($ 24.65)

PENTOXIFYLLIN ratiopharm 400 mg Retardtabl.  50 pack.     € 14,89  ($ 19.98)
PENTOHEXAL 400 mg Retardtabletten    50 pack.    € 15,76 ($ 21.15)
PENTOXIFYLLIN Sandoz 400 mg Retardtabl.     50 pack.    € 15,76 ($ 21.15)
RENTYLIN 400 mg Retardtabl.   50 pack.     € 18,37 ($24.65)

There is also a 100 pack. but it is not available in all countries.
Price is about:
TRENTAL 400 mg Retardtabl. 100  pack.    € 25,76 ($ 34.56)

Not sure about generics, but 100 tablet packs are not available in my country.



Cheapest you can get here officially are 100 packs of pentox at 600mg . I havent seen them in pharmacy but I think they are available to hospitals.
100 trental at 600mg would be like €29,67  or  $39.81

these prices come from the biggest german test institute that compares quality and prices all over the country (for all products, not only pharmaceuticals) Here is the link to the pentox page.
http://www.test.de/themen/gesundheit-kosmetik/medikamente/vom_arzt/a_herz_und_kreislauf/a_arterielle_durchblutungsstoerungen/a_arterielle_durchblutungsstoerungen/generika/?ft=gen&fd=PENTOXIFYLLIN

Luc

QuoteI get pentox without a prescription, so I have to pay the full price.

I'm also in Europe and without a prescription, and thought I was paying more than the full price.  The one internet vendor I found charges a € 6 prescription fee -- their staff doctor reviews your answers to a scant questionaire -- as well as € 8,50 for shipping.  Last order I paid € 65,34 total for 240 Retardtabl. 400 mg generic.  That corresponds to € 13,61 for 50 which is less than the prices you cite!

I called around and ended up moving my prescription to CVS and paid $28 for 90 tablets (one month). So i'm very happy about that, that's with no insurance mind you.

Quote from: ppain on December 01, 2011, 05:32:32 AM
I'm also in Europe and without a prescription, and thought I was paying more than the full price.  The one internet vendor I found charges a € 6 prescription fee -- their staff doctor reviews your answers to a scant questionaire -- as well as € 8,50 for shipping.  Last order I paid € 65,34 total for 240 Retardtabl. 400 mg generic.  That corresponds to € 13,61 for 50 which is less than the prices you cite!

The prices are NOT internet prices.. but over the counter in pharmacies. They will buy the stuff and add their margin.
Also you cannot compare 50 tablet boxes and bigger boxes..

Luc

Luciano: how can you buy Pentox "over the counter" with no prescription?  Where is Pentox not a prescription drug?  I thought various of us were buying Pentox by internet to escape prescription rules when our urologists refuse to prescribe it.

Quote from: Luciano on December 01, 2011, 02:25:06 AM
Not sure about generics, but 100 tablet packs are not available in my country.

That's sad because the German pricing for 400mg generics is extremely quantity dependent:

€ 11,98/ 20 caps
€ 14,89/ 50 caps
€ 19,33/ 100 caps

Ah, capitalism.

Quote from: Luciano on December 01, 2011, 02:25:06 AM
Cheapest you can get here officially are 100 packs of pentox at 600mg .

600mg is a poor choice, unless you want to take 1800mg per day, because Pentoxifylline's retard packaging seems designed for taking three caps per day.  Dr. Lue's group's studies used three 400 mg caps per day.  Safarinejad et al's study used just two 400 mg caps per day for reasoning I couldn't follow.  Their conclusion states: "studies with different treatment regimens (perhaps higher doses with a longer duration) are warranted to better elucidate the effects of PTX-SR on Peyronies Disease." 

I recently stopped using Pentox about a month ago after two and a half years of a daily dosage of three 400mg pills. 

I believe the last price I paid was $20 for 90 400mg pills at Walmart, with health insurance coverage. 

per corvette's price increase, sounds like a mistake!  I think my insurance was covering about only $8-$10 per rx.

CF

I talked to everyone at Walmart, they all said it went up in price. I found that CVS had it for cheaper anyways, so i switched my prescription to them.

Sorry for late reply, I was out of the country

Quote from: ppain on December 01, 2011, 01:31:53 PM
Luciano: how can you buy Pentox "over the counter" with no prescription?  Where is Pentox not a prescription drug?  I thought various of us were buying Pentox by internet to escape prescription rules when our urologists refuse to prescribe it.

Well yes it is a prescription drug here in Austria also.
But there are 2 kinds of prescriptions here.
The so called Drug prescriptions:
Usually hard drugs.. (strong sleeping pills, like rohypnol, strong cortison stuff, etc...) No way to get them over the counter.

then the social security prescriptions.
Patient pays like €5 and social security pays the rest.
If the drug is cheaper than €5, they usually throw away the prescription.

Also If its not a hard drug, and the pharmasist is not suspecting you doing something illegal with it, (like selling it on the black market) you can go to the pharmacy
and say: I ran out of trental, i forgot prescription or my doc is on holiday, they let you pay the full price, give you a ticket, and you can bring the prescription
within 2 weeks (and get the money back, minus the €5 you would have to pay anyway)
they dont ask for any ID, just for your name.
If you dont bring the prescription, they keep the money.
Now you shouldn't do it to often in the same pharmacy.

I personally dont need to do that, as my ex-wife runs a hospital pharmacy. (I am in very good terms with her)
She would give me anything I need, as long as she thinks it is ok. ( I even get 15% discount ;-) )

Here trental is considered less dangerous than a normal pain killer. (pharmacists would give you those if they considere you need one)

I asked my general doctor about it:
he said: its been well studied, it probably wont work for Peyronies Disease, but if you feel like it, take it, you might benefit of the placebo effect.

I am sure any doc would prescribe it here, if you told him: I took it last year, i felt good taking it for Peyronies Disease. I think it helped. My uro now has a new approach that I dont want to follow.
please prescribe it to me again.

Luc

Luciano, across the border in Germany it's somewhat different.  The Bundesinstituts für Arzneimittel und Medizinprodukte has not approved Pentox for Peyronie's treatment.  Consequently health insurances can't cover it when it is prescribed for that.  Due to German love of authority it is hard to even find a urologist who will write the private-pay prescription.  Last week I did and have only to pay €19,33 for the 100 pack of 400 mg Pentox from Sandoz.  This is less than I paid without prescription by internet. 

I'm hoping the ex-wife I'm on good terms with can smuggle me medicines that are cheaply available in the US and either unavailable or ridiculously expensive here.  But we see from this strand that the standardized private-pay German price for non-Trental branded Pentox, €19,33 for 100 x 400 mg, is actually cheaper than US private-pay prices. 

Your Austrian €14,89 private-pay price for 50 x 400 mg is exactly the same as the German private-pay price for 50 x 400 mg.  The prices come from some grand schedule. As mentioned earlier schedule sets up an insanely strong price variation with capsule quantity.  And unfortunately Austria lopped off the schedule at just 50 capsules.

Quote from: ppain on December 12, 2011, 03:42:00 AM
The Bundesinstituts für Arzneimittel und Medizinprodukte has not approved Pentox for Peyronie's treatment.  

Nobody approved it for peyronies here either.
The thing is. Here approval is only necessary if you want it covered by social security public health insurance.
But even if my dentist would write me a private prescription (Privat Rezept) for trental, then the pharmacist will give it to me and not ask any questions as long as I pay the full price.
BUT as it is not approved therapy, I might NOT get the money back from my private health insurance that usually pays for medications not covered by public health insurance. (zusatzversicherung)

The medical system here is not OK.. its what I call 2 class medecine.

If you have no money, then you have to stick to all the rules etc...

If you can spare a little money, you can go to a doctor as private patient. Private urologist consultations are between 100 - 150 €. If you tell him, "prescribe me trental", of course he will do it.
Because if he doesn't, he knows you are not going to come back as patient.. and he will loose his next 100€ for the next follow-up consultation.

Sorry, getting off topic.. but just to explain how the system works. I am sure its the same in germany and in the US. If you go see a uro at $200 to $250 a consultation, and tell him: "I will stick to you as an uro if you prescribe me trental", I bet anything he will. (Also because he knows its not a dangerous drug)

Again if you go and see a uro in a consultation covered by social security (where you dont have to pay anything), he will do what he thinks is right and most of the time will not even listen to you.

Quote from: ppain on December 12, 2011, 03:42:00 AM
Your Austrian €14,89 private-pay price for 50 x 400 mg is exactly the same as the German private-pay price for 50 x 400 mg.  The prices come from some grand schedule. As mentioned earlier schedule sets up an insanely strong price variation with capsule quantity.  And unfortunately Austria lopped off the schedule at just 50 capsules.

Actually the pharmacy still makes lots of money on that..
I get 15% on those €14,89 (as my exwife put me as a "big customer" in the pharmacy computer) so its about €12,66 for me and.. she told me.. they still make good money on what I buy.


Luc

It works out exactly the same way in the US.  The poor are pawns of the system and end up with whatever their docs decide is "best for them".  The wealthy on the other hand have no trouble getting prescriptions for narcotic drugs.  Money does the trick every time.  The wealthy also have the ability to go to exclusive medical clinics that give options for treating almost every disease.  The poor usually are lucky to get one option.  I know because I am not wealthy, but I am medically savvy enough that I can use the money I do have to get options.  I have friends who lack either the savvy or the money or both and they have zero options.  The system determines their fate and often it is not pretty.  - George

110% with you george.
But its not only the money and the medical knowledge. Its also knowledge of the system.

Example: My mother (she's 89 and has alzheimer) fractured a vertebra in her spine falling down.
As I know lots of doctors I asked what to do.. and all told me there is 1 guy here in vienna who is really good at it.
So I took her to see him in a private consultation, (that was $300)... and he asked me how she was insured.
I said: only basic social insurance. so he said that doesn't matter, bring her into the hospital next week.
So she had what they call a "Percutaneous vertebroplasty" done..(they inject some cement into the vertebra and give it back the form it had before the accident.  (he did it between 2 other operations and it was covered by her insurance - and... 2 hours after the cement was dry, she yould walk again without pain)
Condition for him doing it was that we had to have a follow-up consultation 2 weeks later for another $300.

Result: she has no pain and can walk again.

If I had done it the "normal" way, without knowing anybody that knows someone.. she would have had also the operation done, but (!!!) she would have been on a 3 month waiting list.
Problem with those 3 months is that the operation has to be done within 4 weeks of the accident or it is ineffective. (and usually they dont do it for people over 80)
So it was worth paying the extra $600, because my mother is fine now (her back is at least), but for someone who would not have been able to invest the $600, or would not have known it had to be done fast, would have waited for 3 month and have gotten an ineffective operation.
On one side I am disgusted about the system, on the other hand i am happy it worked out fine for my mum.

Luc

I want to add pentox back to my treatment plan and just placed a order with riverpharmacy.ca which I had been getting my pentox/trental from, but just received a email stating the following email. I don't have a prescription hence ordering online. Have any of you run into this or have another site to order pentox from?

"Thank you for your order with River Pharmacy. We appreciate your business.

Recently there has been a change in the international shipping policies of India, our fulfillment country.  We are requesting that you send your prescription(s) to us either by email or fax.  (You could take a photo of your Rx on your mobile phone and send it via email).
Email:  marketing@riverpharmacy.ca

Fax:  1-866-453-9993


We understand that you may not have a prescription at this time, if that is the case, please supply doctor's name, address and phone number for our files. We will NOT be contacting your doctor.

If you have questions call us at 1-888-848-1945.

Please reply in a timely manner to facilitate shipping times."

Just make up a name! They ask on many of these sites.

Quote from: Worried Guy on December 16, 2011, 05:03:03 PM
Just make up a name! They ask on many of these sites.

Thanks I ended up doing that. I just wasn't sure if it would work.

Sense all information i am gettimg from the last post related to riverpharmacy i will have to check this out.They are my source for pentox and cialis?

Fubar

Hello everyone,

I've been experiencing constant pain in the past month along with ED and minor changes in my penis shape (although no bent when erected). I've went to two familiy doctors, the first didn't know what I had, the other
suggested I may have a minor tear inside and both basically told me to wait it out. I'd be fine with that but in one month there have been no improvement of the pain. I'm talking constant pain 24/7. That doesn't seem very typical of an injury, especially one I have no recollection of.

So I've done some researches on my own and I concluded I may have some sort of long-term inflammation down there which may be linked to an early peyronie. I'd like to know if it's possible to get Pentox here in Quebec (Canada) from a reliable website without a prescription (I don't see how I could get one anyway).

And if you guy have some insight to share on my situation I'd be very grateful: I was thinking of taking Vit E, Pentox and L-carnitine. I'm looking for a conservative treatment as I'm not sure I have peyronie yet.
Btw I'm 24.

Thanks
P.S. Sorry for any english mistakes.

sadstory
I know you was more happy not to be here, but if you are here already so Welcome to the forum.
I get my Pentox from https://www.riverpharmacy.ca/drug/trental (https://www.riverpharmacy.ca/drug/trental), no prescription. They are delivering worldwide. I don't know the custom rules in Canada, check out before ordering. Maybe they have branch also in Canada, they have toll free number.
But I ma strongly suggest you to see urgently an uro specialised on Peyronie's before jumping on self diagnosis.
You can search the forum to find a good uro in your place, we have also friends on the forum from Canada, I suppose some will jump in and give you information in the subject.
James

These guys are your best shot, they are good people and they know Peyronie's inside out.  I suggest you give Bill a call:

http://www.peyroniescanada.org/ (http://www.peyroniescanada.org/)

- George

Thanks for answering guys. I'll call Bill but I'm not sure how this will work out since I'm a french speaking native. I'll try to contact them by email before I think.

I'm really happy to have found this forum, thanks again for your help.

I may be naive, but how is it that this site can sell Pentox with no prescription? How do we know that the Pentox they send is the real deal?

Not everywhere in the world you need prescription for Pentox. Riverpharmcy main stock is in India. They are sealing Aventis Trental 400, myself and many others bought from them. They delivery is fast, they keep strict rules, for example I have asked them to write less in the invoice to pay less customs and the answer was: "Sorry, we are not cheating the customs".

James

Quote from: IHatePeyronies on April 01, 2012, 12:10:23 AM
I may be naive, but how is it that this site can sell Pentox with no prescription? How do we know that the Pentox they send is the real deal?

Because different countries have different laws and prescription requimrents, and they seem to be much less restrictive in India than the U.S. An you don't know if it is the real deal unless you have confirmation from other users. I have not purchased from River Pharmacy but several here have and they seem legit. I do buy my Cialis from another India based company and it works well for me.

Les

Quote from: lwillisjr on April 01, 2012, 09:14:55 PM
Because different countries have different laws and prescription requimrents, and they seem to be much less restrictive in India than the U.S. An you don't know if it is the real deal unless you have confirmation from other users. I have not purchased from River Pharmacy but several here have and they seem legit. I do buy my Cialis from another India based company and it works well for me.

Its not only the customs, In europe for example, countries (germany, austria, france) will not let you buy ANY drugs outside an official pharmacy inside the european union.
Here in Austria i cannot buy any drug over the net from outside of the EU. The drug will be confiscated and I will be fined. AND it is not a question of price.
If i buy aspirin in the us (or advil or anything like that) It will never pass customs and I am like 90% sure to be fined and the aspirin confiscated. (except at christmas time because there are so many parcels that they cant control them all)
On the other hand, there are online pharmacies based within the European Union, that send you the parcels from within the EU so there are no customs and hardly any controls. They are illegal and get busted from time to time, but appear again under a different name.
So for cialis and viagra I use those (they ususally have indian generics), but I do not trust them for pentox quality wise.

Luc

Regarding Pentox quality from India, is supplied by Riverfarmcy that is based in the US. I have ordered from them after reading on the forum that some forum veterans buying from them.
The Pentox I get is Trental 400mg manufactured by Aventis. I suppose that if they re working from the US and Canada have some control on them.
Personally I don't think is fake.

James

Question

How can buy Pentox without prescription in the EU states?
Have some way?

James

Quote from: james1947 on April 18, 2012, 08:57:37 AM
Question

How can buy Pentox without prescription in the EU states?
Have some way?

James

You can buy Pentox/Trental from official pharmacy in Finland without prescription.

In Austria an Germany you theoretically need a prescription. But as it is not very dangerous (and there is no real indication you can use it as a drug)
by explaining you dont have your prescription, and if they could help you out just this one time, the usually will give it to you.
Of course not if you show up every week.
Luc

Quote from: ThisWontWork on April 18, 2012, 10:32:26 AM

Quote from: james1947 on April 18, 2012, 08:57:37 AM
Question

How can buy Pentox without prescription in the EU states?
Have some way?

James

You can buy Pentox/Trental from official pharmacy in Finland without prescription.

how can you do it if you are not in/from Finland?

Quote from: Luciano on April 18, 2012, 12:34:25 PM
In Austria an Germany you theoretically need a prescription. But as it is not very dangerous (and there is no real indication you can use it as a drug)
by explaining you dont have your prescription, and if they could help you out just this one time, the usually will give it to you.
Of course not if you show up every week.
Luc

but can you ask for half a year supply of pentox?

Quote from: Ralf3 on April 18, 2012, 05:29:56 PM...

how can you do it if you are not in/from Finland?

You send a mail to a pharmacy in Finland and ask if you can order Trental from them. There is a pharmacy  in Åland(part of Finland), send them a request what you need. Their email: nya.apoteket@apoteket.ax . I did last month - 500 pills - I got it in one week. They have packages of 100 pills at a cost of 23 euro plus shipping cost.

Good luck!

Quote from: Ralf3 on April 18, 2012, 05:34:51 PM
but can you ask for half a year supply of pentox?

I dont know for germany, in austria its definitly No. Here even with a prescription you only get 1 package per prescription. And doctors do not give you prescriptions for more than 1 package.
Why? its a question of money. Every time you go and see the doctor, your social security pays him like 30 euros. Waiting rooms are full of people just coming to get their prescription. most of them dont even see the doc, as its just a renewal.
So no way they will give you more than one package. for trental thats 50 pills.

Luc

This is a little bit off-topic but hopefully moderators can move this if necessary.

Is pentox available in spain without prescription or does it need it?

I'm asking because I'm coming to Spain from other country where Pentox is free to buy for everyone, and I wonder what should I do with my Pentox pills when traveling. I'm affraid the spanish customs will seize them which would be BAD. :S

Also another question, sorry my stupidiness but can you buy Cialis in spain with foreign prescription (which is in foreign language) or how these things work usually..? Does anybody know?

by recipe (receta) he means "prescription"

Phase, thanks for your post.  The word for "Recipe" in English is typically "Prescription" or alternatively "Script".

Since Pentox is NOT a regulated drug (narcotic) in the US, I can't imagine it being seized in customs.  Just make sure you carry it in the ORIGINAL container which specifies what it is.  If you still have concerns, simply contact a representative of the countries you are planning to visit, typically at a consulate or embassy.  Pentox is used for multiple health conditions.  Its an old drug so customs agents around the world should be able to figure it out with no problem.  As for Cialis, you need to talk to a Pharmacist/Chemist or whatever you call them in Spain.  They would be very happy to answer your question, I am sure.  Of course, someone else from Spain might be able to answer that question right here on this forum.  That would solve the problem right away.  - George

Thanks, and sorry I got mixed up with the words, lol.

Is there anybody from Spain in here, who would know how is this drug regulated in Spain?

I'm coming from a country where anybody can buy this from pharmacy, so obviously I don't have prescription for this. But if it's under prescprition in Spain, it can come a problem if I take Pentox with me.

Hi Phase.
Yes, as far as I know, it is a prescription drug. You may find a pharmacy who will sell it to you, but at what cost, I don't know.

Personally, I buy mine from the same place as many members here do, River Pharmacy. It seems to get through customs with no bother - so far anyway.

I live near Alicante. I waited quite a while to get an appointment with a Urologist after finally convincing my local doctor about my problem. Unfortunately, he seemed to be completely lacking in up to date knowledge of effective treatments and prescribed me Vitamin E. I've pretty much decided not to waste any more time with him.

Thanks for info :) OK, hmm, I guess I just take my pentox with me, and if they ask something I must say it's free to buy in my home country. Hopefully it goes ok...

Phase, I also have traveled through customs in quite a few countries and never had a problems with prescribed drugs in their original packaging.  Some older folks especially here in the states take dozens of drugs daily, so really this is not uncommon at all. buen viaje !

Quote from: funnyfarm on January 27, 2013, 01:13:25 PM
Phase, I also have traveled through customs in quite a few countries and never had a problems with prescribed drugs in their original packaging. 

Yes that is not a problem I have other prescription drugs as well, but the point is that I don't have prescription for Pentox, because in my country we can buy it without prescription. :)  So I don't have any kind of document for it, I wonder if that becomes a problem.  Maybe i'll put it in my hand luggage so they probably won't look it...

Since I have no health insurance many of my drugs including pentox are from Mexico and India without prescription/document.   It has never been a problem fortunately. 

I really don't think customs agents care at all whether one has a prescription or not.  They ONLY really care about intercepting narcotics which means you need to have all pills in their original labeled containers with the labels show what the pills are.  That is pretty much it.  The only OTHER problem would be if you were to be carrying an excessively large quantity of a certain pill indicating you might be planning to market them.  - George

Sorry Phase, I got the wrong end of the stick. I assumed from your post that you were coming to live here, or wanted to order Pentox from here. If you're coming from an E.U. country, I'm sure you'll have no problem. I fly backwards and forwards to the U.K. about 5-6 times a year - never had a problem, they may ask to see your passport, but that's about it.

Hey everybody. I joined this forum a long time ago but I haven't been here for ages. I'm not a spammer or anything.

I've been buying pentox from alldaychemist for the past few years and it's been working really well but they've stopped taking credit card payments and I really don't want to pay by e-cheque. I've had fraudulent activity in the past on my credit cards after ordering from online pharmacies (including alldaychemist!) but at least with a credit card you have some protection (and you can always cancel the card and get a new one, with new details).

So where do you buy your pentox from? I know that the big boys (united and inhouse) sell it but it's the Trental brand and is waaaaaaay too expensive. I want a cheap generic version, and I want to pay by credit card.

Alternatively, has anyone here in the UK managed to get a prescription for pentox? That would just be awesome, especially if it was an NHS prescription (doubtful, I know)

I like river pharmacy for pentox, they accept credit cards

Hi,

I'm looking to get some Pentox in Germany but have no prescription as I don't have health insurance here. Are there any online pharmacies where I could get it without a prescription?

Thanks in advance.

Joe

panic,  I suggest you post your question about prescriptions under the "Urologists and other Doctors" topic here -> https://www.peyroniesforum.net/index.php/topic,1137.0.html (https://www.peyroniesforum.net/index.php/topic,1137.0.html).  - George

I have an NHS prescription. Ask your GP, tell them it's working for you, ask for a trial.

goatdonkey

I can't tell for sure, but read the topic bellow:
PENTOX - Supply and prices - Peyronies Society Forums (https://www.peyroniesforum.net/index.php/topic,1095.msg36249.html#msg36249)
I have no problems with customs sending inside the EC, you may try Finlad.
Give us some more information regarding your Peyronies, people may be able to help you

Welcome to the forum
James

Thanks for the replies everyone

I've checked River Pharmacy and their prices are good (plus, I've actually heard of them before) but their delivery times are a bit slow and I'm kind of desperate. What sort of info is on the package? Does it say "healthcare product" or anything like that? Is it obviously internet-bought drugs? Are you in the UK? Did it get caught by customs?

Also, LMP, is it an NHS prescription? How did you go about getting it? That would just be incredible. I don't really have any proof that I ever had Peyronie's though - my plaque was only small (like a big grain of sand) and curvature was never particularly bad. I just had pain and erection problems (difficulty maintaining and no spontaneous/morning erections) and I don't even have that anymore. I do have photos but they don't really show very much. Also, I'm not sure if my GP ever officially diagnosed me with it (I definitely got referred to a specialist but I can't remember what they said)

Panic, I am in the USA, and was told by river that about 10% of the shipments are seized by US customs, not sure about England.  River will refund or reship, but of course this will double shipping time which normally is 3-4wks. So I always order about 6 wks before I run out !

Hi Panic

My prescription came from the urologist. Actually it was his registrar. The original urologist, a so called specialist who said his hospital had taken part in the Xiaflex trial - this was basically unsuccessful he said. Anyway, when I originally saw him he said there was nothing I could do to treat this other than take vitamin E. Pentox would be useless. So I bought my own. On my next visit I saw his registrar, I asked for Pentox, no problem, Cialis, no problem. So all I do now is at the gp's drop in a request for a repeat every month which so far they just do for me.

You'll need to see your gp and explain the problem, maybe need another referral. Print off the evidence - tell them you've been buying privately and it works.

The place I got mine online were Geoff's Pharmacy UK. Price is good, order is quick. They have good reviews.

Meant to say, where in the UK are you?

Panic,  If you read this post MUST READ BEFORE YOU POST - Information for new members - Peyronies Society Forums (https://www.peyroniesforum.net/index.php/topic,3180.0.html) the links to the study are listed.

The GPs and a urologist I saw on the NHS weren't willing to offer any treatment at all. I then saw a urologist privately who sent a letter to my GP recommending he prescribe both Pentox and Cialis, which I've been on for 6 months now with a standard NHS prescription, so it costs me about £15 a month for both of them.

I have another appointment with the urologist this week so we'll see how it goes but my personal experience of the NHS is that they don't really want to help with Peyronies but will do if they receive a recommendation from a private specialist. A private urologist can of course write you a private prescription for Pentox but you won't be saving any money. It just means you can walk into any chemist and order it.

The Finish pharmacy mentioned in the post don't deliver to Germany :( Which pharmacy do you get yours from?

River Pharmacy will deliver anywhere in the world. I live in Spain and have no problem with customs - well, so far anyway. In Germany, I have no idea. Perhaps send them an email and ask?

They won't ship to Germany... It seems pretty impossible to get pentox in Germany without a prescription. I'm from the UK so could probably get some shipped there and then take them back to Germany with me when I return, but that won't be for a few months.

For info Panic...

Once the uro's registrar prescribed me pentox after my request and I came towards the end of a month's worth I went to the GP's. In reception they have a repeat prescription request form which I filled in and 48 hours later went to collect. They didn't have it. A few phone calls followed and it was signed off and then the pharmacy had to order it as it was an uncommon request. I had the same thing for 3 months each time, it's easier to get hold of heroin I'm sure.  Anyway today after I complained the GP rang me, she's had it approved by the practice pharmacist for them to prescribe on a repeat prescription with no hassle and the local pharmacist will keep stock for me. I get free prescriptions too so it costs nothing.

All I'm saying is plead your case, stamp your feet and get the medication you need.

Hey guys, Im living in European country that still does not have Pentox and the doctors dont even seem to recognize it. Was wondering if anybody can recommend a trustworthy online-pharmacy in the UK?

 :-[

So, I followed up with my GP tonight. Sent email last week (which she never read) and took in references tonight. Which she wouldn't look at. Anyway, long story short she said no to prescription of Pentox. Also, advised the Urologist she referred me to 2 weeks ago hadn't followed up with me so she gave me his tel and told me to call.

So, is there anything I can do to get my hands on Pentox? I'm in Vancouver, BC Canada. Anyone local no a different approach?

Btw. I also had a pee today that gave me a sharp stinging sensation in the head of my penis. Like I was squeezing razor blades through it. An hour later I went again and was not there. Told my doctor and my go asked if this was related. She said no, and to pee in a cup in case of infection. Could this be urethral stricture linked to the scar? I am still in acute. I was diagnosed about a month ago.

Big thanks

Milton

Call the urologist and hope he has more brains than your GP.

Milton;

If you cannot get a prescription from your Urologist, there are sources where Pentox can be bought at reasonable cost here on this site. Many of us use these people. They are reliable and honest, from my experience.

https://www.riverpharmacy.ca/drug/trental

I will second Jonbinspain

QuoteThey are reliable and honest, from my experience.

James

Milton.........the stinging in the head area "might" be prostate related.  I have been fighting with both Peyronies and Prostate problems.  I started taking more Saw Palmetto than usual, 500 mg, per day and the stinging went away after a couple of weeks.  Also, that much Saw Palmetto helps to fight off an infection in that area....this I was told by a website on the Internet.  Not knowing your age, can't say for sure if it is Prostate related.  If you are over 40, it is time to give the prostate some attention with supplements.  Personally, I do not recommend supplements with Beta-Sitosterol because it tends to kill the Libido, and you don't want that.  FYI...........

Milton

In addition to the saw palmetto the best thing for a prostate infection is drink 2 8oz. glasses of cranberry juice cocktail. 

Kidney and prostate problems run in my family. A old urologist over 50 years ago advised my dad to drink the cranberry juice cocktail. Worked wonders for him. At 35 I had my first prostate infection. The urologist put me on an antibiotic and told me to drink the cranberry juice. Being young and dumb I just relied on the antibiotic. Took me over a year to get rid of the infection. When my wife was in the hospital in 1982 my prostate started acting up. I went and got a bottle of cranberry juice and drank it in 2 days. I did not have to go to the doctor. Now every time I even suspect a UTI I start drinking it.  Note: It is an acquired taste. Best Ice Cold. Do not get the blends or 100% juice the cranberry juice cocktail works best. Also no citrus fruit or juice the citrus acid agervatges prostate and UTI's.

Jackp
http://jackp-penileimplant.blogspot.com

Thanks everyone!

I'm 38. But will take both suggestions on. Like I said to the doctor, it came and then an hour later was gone. I've been able to pee today ok. however, it was frightening.

I finally got a first meeting with my urologist. Unfortunately its jan 28th next year. And that was after some pleading with the receptionist who answered the phone. She said that the Uro had put it down as non urgent so its down the pickling list. Turns out shes taking appointments for Spring next year! Gulp. So i suppose I am lucky.

For now I will concentrate on the oral suggestions on this site. Plus the extra ones I now have. I just want to make sure Im doing everything i can. That way at least my brain wont take over with worry, which I know can control a lot of this.

My main concern is access to Pentrox which I dont have. I have a link to buy on line now but am in Canada so it wont be sent. I have access to a us postal box though. But not sure if they will send there.

Thanks guys. Doing what i can to keep on top of this. Not a good year for this to happen (is there even a good year?haha) as were getting married in May.

P.

Milton;
Sorry, but I'm not sure I understand you. I am in Spain, and they deliver here. Is there some reason why Canada would not be possible for them?

Milton..........in regards to the Burning when you pee, if it might be an infection, for which I suggested 500 mg of Saw Palmetto, Grapeseed Extract is also suppose to fight against Urinary Tract Infections besides it is suppose to strengthen blood vessels.  And, at the age of 38, this could be the Start of Prostate Problems.  I believe I started at that age but did not realize it at the time.  I thought it was part of getting older.  It would be a good idea to start a Preventive Maintenance program for the Prostate.  Also, an Enlarged Prostate can cause Erectile Dysfunction.

Depending on your financial condition, start of these supplements as soon as you can, and you should check with River Pharmacy to see if they ship to a P.O. Box.  But, you have to sign for the shipment.  River should have a toll free phone number to contact them to ask about the shipments.

FYI....dplookin

dplookin

Riverfarmacy does not have food supplements so you will not find Saw Palmetto and Grape seed Extract.
Check it out yourself before advising people to find there things that don't have.
https://www.riverpharmacy.ca/search

James

Sorry, I did not mean to go to River for these other supplements, just the Pentox.  I was suggesting to Milton to take these other products for possible infection and/or Prostate issues. 

Milton, I'm sorry to hear about how long you have to wait for medical treatment. That's ridiculous.

Since you have to be your own doctor, follow the advice of the other guys and go to River for the Cialis and/or Viagra. Plus, if you're fighting an infection, you need antibiotics. Cipro is my choice when it comes to urological infections. You can go to the drug store and buy a piss test kit. It only costs a few dollars. You pee on the strips and they tell you if you have an infection. You need to address that as soon as possible.

If you test positive for an infection, you need to either go to the ER or urgent care or some other place where you can be seen right away.

Good luck and God bless.

For European members that can't get Pentox prescriptions:
https://goldpharma.com/
Thanks Chris :)

James

Aaaa should have tried one of these european ones instead.  ;D.

Oh well, not going to risk dropping more money on generics that might get seized. I'll just have to try get a prescription for trental and hope its not too much more expensive. Though I'm thinking the price is going to be fairly steep. Six month supply of generics was getting close to 300 euro.

I'd be sorted treatment wise by now if it wasn't for customs. I'd literally have pretty much everything possible to ease my mind about what so far is a very mild case, not too much pain in general, noticeable dent at the base and a curve to the left that is not nearly enough to impede sex. No noticeable loss of length or girth (which is good because i dont have much girth to start with!).

I'm in an ok place right now regarding this, i have a feeling it won't get too bad and i really hope my feeling is right. I'm taking coq10 an a-carnitine just. I stopped taking arginine because blood flow and stuff hasn't been a problem for me so far.

Ranted off topic a slight bit there.  :-X

Actually, anyone have any idea what prices are like for prescription trental/pentox in ireland or the UK?

what dose age you take ? tabs per day ??


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Quote from: fubar on August 10, 2010, 05:53:23 PM
Newguy

Yes it is of very low cost to purchase pentox and cialis.I for one get my meds free of charge through the VA.
Fubar

The majority view is 3 x 400mg / day

A dosing day is 24hrs so ideally, one 400mg tab every 8 hrs

Try not to take it on an empty stomach. It can irritate the stomach and cause acid. It is a listed side effect. I suffered this badly for the first 2 - 3 weeks but it calmed down. I still never take it on an empty stomach though !

Hope that helps

Just for your information, Pentox is a prescription-free drug in Iran. Three weeks ago I made a trip to this country, entered a random pharmacy in Tehran and asked for pentoxifylline. The pharmacist showed me a blister and asked me how much I needed.
It was pentoxifylline 400.