Hey everyone, so I have two injuries, one on the left side and one on the right. Both cause narrowing and loss of rigidity, so they are similar. The injury on the left is from 3 years ago, and has been stable up until now. I've been using a somaerect for close to two months now, and now I'm noticing the old injury is getting significantly worse. Narrowing is worse, a more pronounced curve when flaccid and semi-erect, and the entire left side of my penis has lost a significant amount of rigidity (before it was adequate). I've stopped VED altogether for the past couple days with no improvement yet. Is this a normal injury from overpumping, or could I have permanently worsened my case? I was not experiencing any significant pain or anything during pumping, so I'm not sure if I was overpumping (never pumped to a full erection or anything). I would pump 15 minutes each day and work my way up. My erections are no longer hard enough to safely have intercourse, and I am greatly concerned. Any input is appreciated.
hi,
I had similar damage from VED, overuse led to loss of erection rigidity. have you recovered from this?
Ok, I have to correct some misconceptions about VED and there seems to be lot's of them in here.
First, you really can't hurt your penis with VED that easily, your peyronie's problem started before you even touched VED. You could easily say that your worsened condition is because you wake up every morning from bed, because that's what you do every morning and now your peyronie's is becoming worse.
There are at least a couple of research proven VED studies, one where patients pumped to FULL erection and maintained the erection for THREE WHOLE MINUTES, then releasing the pressure and continue until 10 minutes has passed. This is done twice a day.
Second study, a newer one which I just recently discovered. In that study they pumped to full erections and the erection was maintained for 30 minutes!!! This was done three times a day every day and none has any adverse side effects.
No one in those studies hurt themselves and those two protocols are 10 times more hardcore that the protocol recommended in this forum.
I have myself done many months that first study protocol with no adverse effects and I have pumped to the goddamn max every time, where there is very intense pressure on my dick. No harm has come to my penis!
I recently added one 10 minute max erection hold set to my twice daily routine, no adverse effects still and I just yesterday masturbates twice with erection that pointed straight to the ceiling.
If you think you can hurt yourself with that little "girly" pumping routine that is in this forum, you are sadly mistaken and you will probably never get any real results.
There is this urban myth going on here that you can hurt yourself very bad with VED very easily and this is absolutely just a HUGE MYTH. People in this forum and generally are very paranoid and scared when they get this condition and when they first start something new they very easily draw some weird conclusions that they got seriously hurt with pumping. Then they come to this forum and write "OMG I hurt myself so bad with VED, my life is over!!!", then later they realize that is was just all in their head, BUT they don't come back and correct their original statement and this urban myth keep on living on the internet.
In the end you can just disregard everything I just wrote, I don't really care. I know what I will keep doing, I keep following the real research proven routines with my added 10 minutes bonus erection hold every day twice a day.
Hi Olive,
Interesting info! Do you have any links to the studies you mentioned? I would be interested in reading them. Thanks
https://www.transresurology.com/article_118590_dd8d96b11e7e91e7f81afa7bf4c2f0bd.pdf
https://osbon.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Peyronies-disease-Ralph-BJU.pdf
Thank you, i shall have a good read later today
Hi Ollive - have you seen much resuls using that regime?
Quote from: Olive on March 09, 2022, 02:31:05 AM
Ok, I have to correct some misconceptions about VED and there seems to be lot's of them in here.
By the looks of it, you are the one that needs to be corrected on VED misconceptions. And you seem to have lot's of them in here.
QuoteFirst, you really can't hurt your penis with VED that easily, your peyronie's problem started before you even touched VED. You could easily say that your worsened condition is because you wake up every morning from bed, because that's what you do every morning and now your peyronie's is becoming worse.
There are at least a couple of research proven VED studies, one where patients pumped to FULL erection and maintained the erection for THREE WHOLE MINUTES, then releasing the pressure and continue until 10 minutes has passed. This is done twice a day.
Correlation does not mean causation, you are right. But that's about it. Peyronies can in fact be a consequence of VED usage and you can also injure yourself from using a VED. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8558654/ (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8558654/)
Holding the erection for some seconds or even minutes in a controlled and safe manner without overpumping with a medical grade pump is very common and recommended. We all know that here?
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Second study, a newer one which I just recently discovered. In that study they pumped to full erections and the erection was maintained for 30 minutes!!! This was done three times a day every day and none has any adverse side effects. No one in those studies hurt themselves and those two protocols are 10 times more hardcore that the protocol recommended in this forum. I have myself done many months that first study protocol with no adverse effects and I have pumped to the goddamn max every time, where there is very intense pressure on my dick. No harm has come to my penis!
So... where are all those studies you talk about? The least you could do is post them here so you would share your supposed knowledge with us all instead of keeping it just for you and talking in such a condescending manner?
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If you think you can hurt yourself with that little "girly" pumping routine that is in this forum, you are sadly mistaken and you will probably never get any real results.
SO.... show us your REAL RESULTS. I want proof, with your nickname on a piece of paper of those supposed gains throughout the years which i am sure you have been thoroughly documenting. I'll be here along with the others.
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There is this urban myth going on here that you can hurt yourself very bad with VED very easily and this is absolutely just a HUGE MYTH. People in this forum and generally are very paranoid and scared when they get this condition and when they first start something new they very easily draw some weird conclusions that they got seriously hurt with pumping. Then they come to this forum and write "OMG I hurt myself so bad with VED, my life is over!!!", then later they realize that is was just all in their head, BUT they don't come back and correct their original statement and this urban myth keep on living on the internet.
In the end you can just disregard everything I just wrote, I don't really care. I know what I will keep doing, I keep following the real research proven routines with my added 10 minutes bonus erection hold every day twice a day.
As you can see on the link above that i posted on my reply and also on the threads people make on the VED section, what you posted is nothing but garbage written in the most condescending way. We don't need this here. You know what we need? People willing to help each other, share knowledge, information, pictures, studies.....
So in the end, i chose to put you on the warning list and start monitoring your posts to see how you tag along with us. Maybe you will change your ways. Maybe not. But keep in mind: misinformation won't be tolerated and will be dealt accordingly.
Pfract, What are you even talking about? You say I haven't posted these studies that I talked about? Ummm, yes I did. What is wrong with you?
Pfract,
It is unreal how bad you treat people who go out of their way and give people here two FULL scientific studies to help people and then as a reward I get warning and I get put on a "watched" list. Unbelievable, what a garbage human being you are, you are not worth my time. Once again I'm reminded that human being do not deserve any help, because you never get any rewards for helping people, just hate and negativity.
Like I have said previously, I have got my penis in a very good condition, where I have only very mild normal banana curve and it doesn't have any negative effects during sex. I don't have any need for this forum, because I don't have any problems anymore. I was just bored this one day while laying on a couch and decided to see what's up in this forum and decided that it would benefit some to see these two VED studies.
Anyway, like I said, I have no need for this forum, you can just keep trashing people here all you like, if it makes you feel good. I don't need that kind of negativity in my life.
Everyone,
I'm gonna delete my account after this post. This was truly my last time I'm ever gonna help anyone in life. People are so ungrateful , they truly don't deserve any help, no matter how horrible this condition is. It's just not worth it to help anyone.
Best of luck to you all,
Goodbye,
Olive
Sorry to hear that Olive, i have enjoyed reading your posts.