Could taking Pentox cause any bad side effects IF you don't have the disease?
In that I mean, if you believe you have the disease, but you still don't have a diagnosis - could taking Pentox make your situation worse?
Hope this makes sense
- Godisreal
No, it won't give you peyronies. But I, would wait for a diagnosis first, since peyronies does have its own side effects.
I wouldn't wait for the diagnosis, I would jump on pentox as soon as possible. The single variable that matters the most is how soon you start the therapy.
Pentox is NOT a Peyronies medication. It is used for Peyronies but was developed for blood flow problems.
It will not harm except the side effects (if you have them)
James
Can you get your hands on Pentox online? Majority of urologists in my country doesn't believe in Pentox as a successful treatment of the disease...
Pentox is hardly a saviour. Some people swear by it, but as someone who has taken it for years now and went periods without pentox too I can tell that it doesn't make much of a difference. I would try to get it from a doctor though if you do wanna use it, but don't expect any miracles. Also, I'm sure some people here know how to get it online, but I personally wouldn't take any risk with generic drugs. Go to a uro and just explain to him that there's a whole forum that tells you it could help and if he has any sympathy for you he might just perscribe it. I know mine did even though he didn't think ut would help me and honestly he was right.
Yes, the whole Pentox situation is a bit of a quandry for us European members. Our doctors frown upon it and many will actively dissuade you from taking it due to it's load on the organism for little no perceivable gain.
People I've spoken to said it weakened their immune systems, albeit temporarily. For me, this is a massively off-putting as I have other health issues and having an upper respiratory illness would make my life very miserable.
At the same time one can;t ignore how many clais there are here of it being effective...
So, yes. Quite the quandry.
Guys, what would be a good equivalent for Pentox? As in stopping progression and lowering inflammation to a minimum. I'm ready to try anything so please, hit me with suggestions.
Either oral or transdermal. I'm currently using a series of supplements along with castor oil (transdermal) as well as tea among other things.
I hear coQ10 is a substitute if can't do pentox.
Thanks Tony. I'm already on Coq10 tho, but I do have some great news.
A fellow member in the forum recommended a sight where they don't need prescriptions for Pentox. Therefore I was able to get Pentox, and I will start treatment in the near future :)
Hopefully this will be the breaking point for me, I do have high hopes but I'm not sure why really lol. There shouldn't be a problem with taking both Coq10 and Pentox, right? I certainly don't want any unpleasant drug-interactions f*cking me up...
Anyway, I will keep posting in this thread so everyone who wants can follow my treatment.
I haven't heard of any interaction issues w taking both.
I know nothing is guaranteed with this disease BUT what would you all say if someone says the theory that Pentox stops progression is TRUE. I do believe that, I've heard a lot of people being relieved from both pain and progression with Pentox. Is this correct? Is it a savior? Not in curing the disease, but in stopping progression?
Caffeine is nearly the same as pentox, so just drink coffee.
What if I already consume more than 500 mg of caffeine everyday? And I've also ordered Pentox, which will be delivered shortly... are the two a good combo? Since you're saying they have big similarities.
Or could they interact bad with one another?
Pentox is a xanthine derivative. Like caffeine, chocolate, etc. It might make you nervous. Pentox side effects are usually nervousness, gastric issues. But it is pretty harmless unless you have some sort of compromised immune system issue.
I'm the healthiest motherf*cker you can find, my friend. I just for some reason have a very sensitive dick when it comes to injuries. And thanks for chiming in.
But I'm gonna ask again, are the two a good combination? If they are alike, like you all say, won't the two of them do much more good than just one by itself? Theoretically speaking.
I have incredible news. On my last penis-check I noticed two of my lumps are completely gone... I haven't even started Pentox yet! Delivery is taking forever. Anyway, I'm thrilled that after just 1,5 month of supplements I've got rid of two lumps. I bet this is spontaneous improvement, mostly. But it's great no matter what caused it.
I'm hoping to include Pentox sooner rather than later, and then keep on nursing my dick back to health. GOD IS REAL
What supplements are/were you taking?
I'm currently using L-Arginine, Coq10, ALCAR, ibuprofen, castor oil, reishi powder, teas and selenium. I'm also doing gentle traction, which was helped a lot with inflammation, allowing my dick to "breath" so to say. Also complete absence from sugar.
Today, I finally picked up my Pentox. I will start treatment tomorrow morning.
My main problem remains being the hard scar on the front side causing decreased mobility and a slight upward curve which completely rules out the possibility of my favorite sex position (doggystyle). Erectile disfunction is also current. Not too bad tho.
Lastly, it's been two months since onset and I've finally gotten Pentox. Hopefully it's not "too late". Hopefully my future will be brought back above the surface.
This might be a little of topic but how crucial is low-dose-Cialis in treating Peyronie's?
I have a difficult time getting my hands on it and I feel like it's not worth my time trying to get it, if it's not that important. I'm already on Pentox btw. What do y'all think?
Not sure if there's a study that says that in combination as better results, but if you can get it I'd try it. If not, just focus on the treatments you have access to.
Does anyone know the actual truth about Pentox stopping progression? It has come to my understanding that those with jelqing and pumping injuries does not benefit from Pentox. But I also believe their case is very different, and not the "typical" peyronies aka scar-tissue overrunning healthy tissue. But since I have "typical" progression, is Pentox guaranteed to stop progression?
I've heard a lot of people here talk about how beneficial it is in active phase to take Pentox... how accurate is this? Or in how many peyronies-cases does Pentox stop progression?
Or do you have to combine Pentox with something else in order to get that real benefit to stop progression?? I'm eager to know the real benefit of the drug
There's no guarantee it works for everyone, and to what degree it (or any treatment) works for those it helps.
Thank you for the answer, Tony. But lemme put it simple, Pentox helps by letting blood supply enter the narrow veins (like in the penile tissue), and while in the acute phase it's critical to have good blood-flow in order to promote healing and prevent more fibrosis, right? Since the drug itself works by suppling blood to small veins, it makes perfect sense this would prevent further scarring. Same principle goes with traction and VED, which both help with letting the tissue breath and get blood flowing better.
I've seen people here who just have "potential scarring" a.k.a they have size-loss and erectile disfunction but no visible scarring of the tunica, these people seem to have no benefit in using Pentox. Perhaps because their problem is not lack of nutrient blood flow, but something else.
Just my 2cs regarding Pentox.
The big problem with Peyronies is that the Penis has low blood flow for most of the day. Compared to legs, arms etc.
The inflammation/ injury is in a bad spot and the body has insufficient means to deal with it in the penis, especially the tunica, which is a low blood flow tissue. The calcification is a poor means of patching up an injury/inflammation. It's basically isolated/encapsuled within the body.
Pentox has a short half life in the body. So if you take it, and are for the next 1-2 hours after it reaches the blood, without blood flow around the Peyronies Disease plaques, then it was probably wasted.
That's why the combination cialis+pentox makes sense.
I personally would also spread the daily dose of Pentox across the day.
In germany the gov. decides which drugs can be used for what illness based on if there's enough proof for it working. But it might help in combination with other treatments like cialis or whatever but basic logic is often taken out of the equation when the gov decides. Yes, socialism sucks. The big problem with Peyronies is that the Penis has low blood flow for most of the day. Compared to legs, arms etc.
The inflammation/ injury is in a bad spot and the body has insufficient means to deal with it in the penis, especially the tunica, which is a low blood flow tissue.
Pentox has a short half life in the body. So if you take it, and are for the next 1-2 hours after it reaches the blood, without blood flow around the Peyronies Disease plaques, then it was probably wasted.
That's why the combination cialis+pentox makes sense.
I personally would also spread the daily dose of Pentox across the day.
In germany the gov. decides which drugs can be used for what illness based on if there's enough proof for it working. But it might help in combination with other treatments like cialis or whatever but basic logic is often taken out of the equation when the gov decides. Yes, socialism sucks.
If I could get Pentox I would've put it on my dick transdermally all day everyday.(verapamil too)
Godisreal, how do you get all of that drugs? Did you get prescriptions from the doc or you're just taking them by yourself? My doctor just won't give anything, just some natural integrators, which I don't think are very effective. How can I get some good and effective drugs?I have a little plaque of 5mm in the left.
Very happy experience this evening, while masturbating I realized my curve has bettered around 5-10 degrees, for the first time in awhile I really saw the dick I'm used to see without issues.
I'm 3 months into oral treatment (roughly 1 month with Pentox tho) and I'm already seeing great things!
Curve still immobilizes me a good bit and I'm still soar & have active inflammation. Also, my soft lumps are still current while most of them have shrieked to a very low size.
2020 will be a year of healing, learning & growing mentally, I'll probably keep updating on this thread specifically. I'm looking forward to keep on with my oral treatment for a great while.
Thank you to everybody supporting me & giving me tips and tricks in this sick mess.
God bless you people & merry Christmas!
Congrats, please keep us posted❤️
Thanks Tony! It seems like my curve goes back and forth because the scar loosens up at times and let's tissue expand better, still very great news. This means I can probably get the curve to vanish with treatment over time. Difficult to pinpoint where I'm gonna land but both the mental state & the physical state are very good & stable at the moment.
If I'm gonna address other things i'd mention that hard flaccid hasn't been "active" for more than a month. Libido increases as well as erectile quality. I also smoke weed occasionally, I often then get skyrocketing erections as well as a high sex drive. I believe this is very good for healing. I know not all of you have a very liberal look on marijuana, but using it right could definitely benefit certain aspects of Peyronie's. Hopefully everything will keep getting better. Thanks again for being here for me. Means a lot.
God bless you
A question;
- Is Pentox a working drug for fighting vasoconstriction? Let's say i was a cigarette smoker, would Pentox help fighting AGAINST the cigarette's effects on vasoconstriction? Since it's actual usage contains lessening the blood and altering it, ultimately leading to the blood having an easier time traveling to tissue and organs.
Interesting question but even if it helped offset one effect of smoking it kills in so many ways that ideally you will quit. Alternatively you can lower your use w aids such as patches or meds or switch to vaping which only produces 200 harmful chemicals vs 2000 when smoking. Good luck to you, tobaccos is the most addictive substance on earth and was designed by scientists to be so.
F*ck cigarettes man. I've cut down to one a day, this combined with occasional weed smoking is doing good for me personally.
A little newsflash is that I'm heading to the doc tomorrow to HOPEFULLY get prescribed low-dose-cialis and finish off my PAV Cocktail once and for all.
I get sick just by thinking of the months that has gone by so fast, and I'm still not on cialis.
I've been on Pentox for roughly a month but I still feel bad for not being able to get cialis earlier.
My curve has bettered slightly while my tunica is still filled with miniature-soft lumps that causes narrowing. I have a very bizarre Peyronie's case, imo. It's unlike anything that anyone else has described.
Anyway, wish me luck. I'll update here again tomorrow.
After an hour long discussion with the most trustworthy & kind doctor in my area, I still couldn't get cialis prescribed. This was because of the lack of expertise the doctor had, along with the severe side effects that could appear with heavy intake of cialis/viagra. And ofc I told him about the many certified studies that are present all over the web that the urologists here just seem
to completely piss off. I also told him the dosage and usage were completely different.
I managed to get an email sent with details and directions to the studies about cialis for peyronies that everyone except this country seems to know about. Another urologist will be forced to check the certified studies sent by my local doc, and the likelihood of me getting cialis is now very high. But it will take another few weeks, unfortunately. In the meantime, I will start both Magnesium Citrate and L-Citrulline supplementation additional to my current treatment-plan.
Please chime in, people. Does that sound like good equivalents for cialis?
It's all I can get my hands on now. As you know, I'm already on Pentox since a month back, which is great.
The nightmare continues however, pray for me people.
God bless
You can add Ginseng which increases "blood circulation" but can have some adverse effects depending on the dosage.
Gingko is another herb that can help with that. It thins the blood. Always start with low dosage to check effects.
I bought a package named "ArgiPlex" for men. The tablets contain L-Citrulline, L-Arginine, Ginseng, Magnesium etc. I'm disgusted by the fact that I haven't gotten cialis yet, because of the broken system. But melting, you mentioned that "the body cools down after a while with calcification" in another thread. What do you mean by this? It doesn't make any sense to me. If active phase always ends with calcification we would be doomed if we waited off the active phase.
I'm facing the opposite problem as you GIR. My doctor prescribed low dose Viagra but wouldn't prescribe Pentox (for at least a month). I'm no doctor, but I feel like your situation is preferable. All Viagra/Cialis does is increase blood flow. Not sure if that happens while flaccid or if the strategy is just more boners = more bloodflow. I already was getting strong overnight erections so not sure if this added Viagra really does anything. Are you getting good erections without Viagra?
I get good erections but they don't come as often anymore. However, I had hard flaccid almost constantly for the first 1,5 months. HF is now completely vanished and I NEVER have it anymore, this is obviously great news but I feel like I'm in a dark tunnel still. I'm on the P and the A of the PAV Cocktail, this along with both magnesium citrate, L-Citrulline & ginseng are all together my current treatment. I'm not sure what to expect of the future, I'm trying to focus on my goals in the meantime.
Can someone please help with a link to buy pentox
I don't know what to say right now... tonight, my dick was to 90% filled out like before in flaccid mode (I have pictures to compare). Perhaps oral treatment is working, but I obviously can't say for sure. Anyway, I feel very confident and good at the moment, I'm not sure if I will ever recover completely but I've seen a few good things now that makes me very happy. My hard scar causing the curve is the things that I'm afraid will never be reversible. It's also the thing that f*cks up my will to approach any girls. I guess I will take things as they come, like everybody else.
God bless
can you please help me find pentox