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Title: Heavy weight training bad?
Post by: Rambo on August 11, 2020, 10:45:22 AM
Every time I do weight training: curls/dips/lay pulls/bench press/overhead press/and more specifically when I do things like squat/deadlift or if I just push my self at all my penis turtles really badly, like it gets solid/contracted like hard flacid and then after a few  mins after I've stopped it gets more spongy again..

Is it bad for the penis to be in this contracted state, I'd hate to stop weightlifting, it's a passion but honestly hate to be making my peyronies bad, I don't really have a bad case anyway

I'll do deadlifts 1-2 a week

My thinking has been that it can't make peyronies bad but could tighten an already tight pelvic floor.

Thanks
Title: Re: Heavy weight training bad?
Post by: HeyThereYou on August 11, 2020, 11:39:48 AM
I have the exact same thing and i'm worried i'm making it worse, like you i think it could be to do with pelvic floor too
Title: Re: Heavy weight training bad?
Post by: Timewilltell on August 11, 2020, 01:02:44 PM
I believe the turtling is the byproduct of your body redirecting blood towards the muscles you are straining. That is why it returns to normal after you stop. That is perfectly normal and not really a cause for concern.

I think you can continue weightlifting. Exercise is very good. However, you really need to make sure you are doing everything with proper form and following a balanced routine. Do not develop muscle imbalances. Also, make sure you maintain good posture and relax tension when you are doing rest days. Muscle imbalances, poor posture, and tension can produce strain. As you pointed out, this can lead to a tighter pelvic floor.

Make sure you do cardio. Do some yoga to help with stretching, breath control, posture, and developing better mind-muscle control. Do biofeedback and focus on relaxing your pelvic floor throughout the day.

As long as you do weightlifting in a smart and balanced way then I do not think you have to stop. Still, you might not want to push until failure as often. A heavy duty bodybuilding routine that maximizes gains is hard on the body in a lot of ways.

I am not a doctor, so my opinion should be taken with a grain of salt.
Title: Re: Heavy weight training bad?
Post by: TonySa on August 11, 2020, 09:11:47 PM
What type of biofeedback?
Title: Re: Heavy weight training bad?
Post by: Timewilltell on August 12, 2020, 03:50:53 AM
The biofeed back I am talking about is just actively thinking about places you hold tension and relaxing the muscles there.

Usually in cases of Hard Flaccid and tightened pelvic floors they would focus on doing reverse kegels. From what I have read, gradually retraining the body to keep the pelvic floor relaxed was helpful in combatting the condition gradually over time.

At least it was successful in some cases. Others needed to visit a pelvic floor physiotherapist. Others needed to change diet, fix posture, or take extended breaks from masturbating if they had a tendency to tighten the pelvic floor to achieve/maintain an erection. As always, different people responded to different things.

Even putting tightened pelvic floors to the side for a moment, just general body scans that allow you to zone in on spots of tension and then focus on relaxing the associated muscles can be helpful. Oftentimes people under stress will have tense jaws and shoulders or will be pulling on the scalp by tensing muscles around the crown of the neck.

In most cases, this behaviour is relatively innocuous and your body is not even realizing you are doing it but simple things like relaxing points of tension can help ease stress because your body can unconsciously get caught in a feedback loop where stress is stored in tension which makes the body uncomfortable and signals the brain to be stressed.

These sort of background noises of stress, when properly addressed, can break these feedback loops. Along those same lines, simple things like regularly checking in with your breathing (people are frequently taking very shallow breaths or are unconsciously holding their breath), drinking water, getting enough sleep, etc. all help address this background noise.
Title: Re: Heavy weight training bad?
Post by: Rambo on August 12, 2020, 03:04:43 PM
Timewilltell

I am constantly clenching when weight training, Especially squats/dead lifts.. Should i be avoiding these then? Or can i counteract them by just getting in some good things in like Hindi squats/happy baby pose/Reverse kegels etc?
Title: Re: Heavy weight training bad?
Post by: Timewilltell on August 12, 2020, 03:55:27 PM
You are doing heavy weights! It is almost impossible to push yourself and not clench! Haha  :)

So, no. Don't worry about clenching and tension while lifting. That is kind of the whole point. Just make sure you are not clenching and flexing when you are not exercising. The problem really comes from your pelvic floor being constantly tensed. Yes, hindi squats/happy baby/reverse kegels. Just work those into your rest days or after you exercise. Just make sure you maintain a balance and try to hit every muscle you can.

But again, I am not a doctor nor am I an exercise specialist. I am just the same as you. I love exercising and I am pushing some body building goals and I have been trying to figure out ways to still get bigger without messing things up even more.

Just listen to your body. Let it tense when you are pushing but do not keep that tension with you. As a bonus, the better your mind muscle connection the better you will be at isolation exercises.
Title: Re: Heavy weight training bad?
Post by: Hontas on August 13, 2020, 08:52:34 AM
Bro weight lifting is the best sport to date. It helps you metabolize things much faster, makes you healthier and lets you eat more. I also get turtling when i do sports etc. because the blood pumps away from it. When the time comes and blood goes there everything becomes fine and dandy and as usual. To me it's just funny how big it can get compared to its flaccid size, don't "sweat" too much on it.
Title: Re: Heavy weight training bad?
Post by: HeyThereYou on August 16, 2020, 12:43:34 PM
The past week i've been also doing weights more often, a lot of the compounds and it seems my hard flacid in general is a lot more worse
Title: Re: Heavy weight training bad?
Post by: TonySa on August 16, 2020, 02:57:30 PM
Would heat after maybe bring back blood flow?  Also. Maybe nightly low dose generic cialis to do the same overall?
Title: Re: Heavy weight training bad?
Post by: Rambo on August 24, 2020, 01:49:30 PM
I am finding after doing more squats/deadlifts (The best exercises :/ IMO) That my penis just is in this more hard flacid state in general in daily life) Is this simply JUST a tight pelvic floor and this type of weightlifting is not DIRECTLY effecting the peyronies? I mean i don't see how it could anyway...