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Title: Ultrasound therapy to administer Verapamil?
Post by: flashpoint on October 24, 2015, 01:57:38 PM
Hi.  I have read  quite a lot about different treatment options and based on studies and papers, I am leaning towards trying ultrasound at 3mhz sessions with topical verapamil gel.

Ultrasound would in theory have a doubly beneficial effect by both vibrating the cellular matrix of scar tissue/plaque under the skin surface to potentially help break it down, but also to transport the topical verapamil gel deep into the penis tissue to aid calcification  breakdown.

This method avoids painful injections of verapamil and figure worth a try, as although only a small study was published, it did report some good results for quite a few using verapamil.

I am going to buy a portable ultrasound machine and purchase some verapamil gel. I'll report back with my findings, but thought I'd throw my theory out there to see if  it can help someone else if it works.
Title: Re: Ultrasound therapy to administer Verapamil?
Post by: dazdevil on June 30, 2016, 08:09:51 PM
Hello, and what are your finding, we cant still waiting
Title: Re: Ultrasound therapy to administer Verapamil?
Post by: james1947 on July 08, 2016, 08:36:47 PM
dazdevil

You know, flashpoint was last online on November 07, 2015, 06:37:23 AM
Don't expect some prompt answer :)

James
Title: Re: Ultrasound therapy to administer Verapamil?
Post by: flashpoint on July 24, 2016, 04:06:27 PM
Hi guys,

Sorry for tardy response. Couldn't get my hands on Verapamil, but did buy and ultrasound machine. Research told me to use a 3mghz frequency for up to 2-3 cm depth of treatment.

I am fortunate that my peyronie's is not particularly advanced, just a pinching half way up my shaft that disappears when fully erect. I can feel the plaque under the surface though and blood flow to the head is definitely partially restricted.

Anyway, I have been so busy and travelling that I have not fully tested this treatment to reveal an amazing cure, however I am certain my plaque has reduced a little with about 10 x 15min sessions of ultrasound.

There is a chance the plaque is naturally dissolving on its own,  but feel the ultrasound has definitely helped me. Google 'scar breakdown using ultrasound' and the theory stacks up in my opinion. Remember to get conductive gel if you try it.

Hope this offers help and use to someone.

Cheers
Title: Re: Ultrasound therapy to administer Verapamil?
Post by: peyter on January 02, 2017, 08:45:18 AM
Hi all,

Im gonna buy a portable Ultrasound equipment. Mi doubt is 1 MHz is gonna is better tan 3 MHz device. Point is that 1 MHz goes deeply tan 3 MHz, so may be is nor necessary and 1 MHz is more than enough. Most of Ultrasound portable equipment have 1 MHz...

Thanks a lot.
Title: Re: Ultrasound therapy to administer Verapamil?
Post by: Paolo on January 02, 2017, 09:27:09 AM
Hi again peyter, this is an interesting theory, see below links which you may wish to read

htthttp://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16558387p

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16558352

Although the penis is not a muscle as such it may help moving forward  :)
Title: Re: Ultrasound therapy to administer Verapamil?
Post by: Crookid on January 07, 2018, 08:54:05 PM
I am currently using a hand held 1 MHz ultrasound unit for about 10 minutes twice a day after I apply verapamil. Was wondering if anyone else has seen positive results using a similar approach? I’m only about 2 weeks into it so nothing to report yet.
The verapamil I’m using is made at a compounding pharmacy and says 4mg/gm. I’m not exactly sure what that means. DPLabs makes a 15% gel that they claim shoes results in clinical testing. I’m playing checking with my dr to see what the difference is.
Title: Re: Ultrasound therapy to administer Verapamil?
Post by: Fix This on April 02, 2020, 06:51:56 AM
Hi, did anyone get good results from Verapamil Gel ? I have a 3mhz ultrasound device. I would like to try using Verapamil gel but it's only available in the USA. Hence the thread I'm about to start .....