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Title: phallosan
Post by: djordj on September 23, 2019, 03:32:53 PM
Hello.

I have a question regarding phallosan.

DOes it work ? can you actually gain size with phallosan ?

Thanks for the answer
Title: Re: phallosan
Post by: djordj on November 10, 2019, 11:48:34 AM
i suffer from congenital ventral curvature (40-45 degrees).
I have also been diagnosed with chordee.

I know phallosan cant fix my problem (curvature ), but can i gain lenght if i have chordee (the penis is not so elastic) ???


Can someone please help.

BR,

Jure
Title: Re: phallosan
Post by: melting on November 10, 2019, 12:40:25 PM
Yes, if you use it daily for weeks, months you can gain size. Takes a lot of time and dedication.
It possibly also stretch over time harder tissue. 
Phallosan is applied to the glans so be sure that you possibly can attach it and you don't have the chordee right at your glans(?)
Title: Re: phallosan
Post by: djordj on November 10, 2019, 12:47:07 PM
Quote from: melting on November 10, 2019, 12:40:25 PM
Yes, if you use it daily for weeks, months you can gain size. Takes a lot of time and dedication.
It possibly also stretch over time harder tissue. 
Phallosan is applied to the glans so be sure that you possibly can attach it and you don't have the chordee right at your glans(?)

Thanks for the answer.

No i dont have chordee at my glans.

Im going to give it a go and see the results
Title: Re: phallosan
Post by: TonySa on November 10, 2019, 04:07:19 PM
The predominant thinking is that traction can only replace lost length or girth, not grow beyond ones normal size.  Although, there is one study that showed some gained a quarter of inch from their normal size.
Title: Re: phallosan
Post by: djordj on November 12, 2019, 11:00:58 AM
Quote from: TonySa on November 10, 2019, 04:07:19 PM
The predominant thinking is that traction can only replace lost length or girth, not grow beyond ones normal size.  Although, there is one study that showed some gained a quarter of inch from their normal size.

I saw a lot  testemonials that they gain lenght using phallosan.
Title: Re: phallosan
Post by: TonySa on November 12, 2019, 03:05:25 PM
Yes, it's advertising and marketing promoting it for penis extension...
Title: Re: phallosan
Post by: djordj on November 13, 2019, 02:55:00 PM
i saw it from the guys in this forum
Title: Re: phallosan
Post by: Godisreal on November 13, 2019, 03:32:11 PM
I believe and hope for not only my sake, but for everybody in need,
that traction and VED gets the majority of us to where we want to be... sometimes it feel like it's the only hope to remodel your scar into almost what it used to be. I pray to God everyday that I will be okay one day. I barely care how long it takes, just as long as I get there...
Title: Re: phallosan
Post by: melting on November 13, 2019, 07:26:18 PM
Quote from: TonySa on November 10, 2019, 04:07:19 PM
The predominant thinking is that traction can only replace lost length or girth, not grow beyond ones normal size.  Although, there is one study that showed some gained a quarter of inch from their normal size.
Tony, stop it, trying to discourage people by essentially pushing lies! It's not the predominant thinking!
You can obviously stretch every collagenous soft tissue beyond it's normal size. 

EVERY collagenous tissue, like tendons or the different soft tissues inside the penis has an elastic and plastic deformation range. ESTABLISHED SCIENCE! 

Depending on the tissue these elastic and plastic ranges ("creep") can be reached by time*load.
Plastic deformation means lasting elongation.

You're trying to disprove the individual successes of members or their logical thoughts by acting like your opinion is somehow the established truth, all over the board.

There are thousands of studies on stress-relaxation and Plastic deformation of collagen and soft tissue structures around. 
Ligaments, tendons, veins, arteries, smooth muscles, even bones... Plastic deformation - stress strain curve collagen, micro-failures, investigate it before you make dozens of untrue statements actively discouraging people from solving their Peyronies Disease. 

Here's a start.
https://www.studocu.com/en/document/university-of-wollongong/musculoskeletal-functional-anatomy/summaries/summary-mechanical-properties-of-tissue-notes/316163/view



Title: Re: phallosan
Post by: TonySa on November 13, 2019, 07:57:37 PM
Oh my, relax man!  Please link to even one person on this forum that reports lessening their cogenital curve w traction or even one medical research. 

Here's a nice summary:

TREATMENT:
Treatment is surgical. To date no non-surgical treatment including oral medications, injections or topical therapy have been used to correct congenital curvature/chordee. External penile traction therapy has been used successfully with some success for Peyronie's disease to correct not only curvature, but may recover some lost length and improve indentation. This has not been tested yet in the congenital curvature/chordee population and it would seem intuitive that this technique would likely not work, as the tissues are not restricted by scar upon which the traction forces would be working as in the Peyronie's patient.

Title: Re: phallosan
Post by: melting on November 13, 2019, 08:45:39 PM
No, Tony, you're ignorant towards others with your opinions selling them as truth, preventing people from dealing with their conditions beyond anything that might've worked with your condition.

IT'S A FACT that you can plasticaly deform collagenous soft tissue! What is in a penis? Collagenous soft tissue.

Your "Treatment" text is merely opinion void of logic ignoring established facts about how tissue works.
Quoteit would seem intuitive that this technique would likely not work,
Intuitive?

QuotePlease link to even one person on this forum that reports lessening their cogenital curve w traction
With you spamming every thread that is on anything else than surgical methods I wouldn't be surprised to find no one thanks to you.

Whatever. Everyone should make up their own mind.

OH LOOK FROM WHERE YOU HAVE YOUR DUMB QUOTE:
Congenital Penile Curvature (Chordee) | San Diego,CA (http://www.sandiegosexualmedicine.com/male-issues/congenital-penile-curvature-chordee)
QuoteSchedule your courtesy call
Ten minutes with our experts can change your life forever
SUUUUURE.. pay us $$$ and we cut your dick up, it's the only option you have. Disgusting.

Do you work there Tony?

Title: Re: phallosan
Post by: djordj on November 14, 2019, 11:25:58 AM
we have a debate here :D i like it :D

I have congenital ventral curvature + chordee.

I know that phallosan cant fix my curvature (the only option is surgery). I am asking about lenght gain.

It is possible to gain some extra lenght using phallosan ? I think so.
Title: Re: phallosan
Post by: TonySa on November 14, 2019, 04:21:36 PM
Hi melting, no I dont work there...just googled but it's a good point that site could be biased.  I'd actually love to here someone, anyone, with a cogenital curve improved it w traction.  Maybe someone here will give it a try.   

Djord, lost length can be regained (differing degrees) by traction for many.