https://getmyphoenix.com/ Let us know if you use this or will use it so we can know your results looks like it is fairly new to the market. It is a use at home acoustic wave device. Says it treats peyronies and ed
Curious as well...i just came across this but have not yet ordered it..
Quote from: lanyc on October 07, 2020, 10:36:15 AM
Curious as well...i just came across this but have not yet ordered it..
I have spent more in supplements in a year. However not sure if it's true shockwave or just acoustic wave. Might help let me know if you buy
IIRC there are two kind of ESWT, and one is bad while the other one is very good. We should double check that this device uses the good one...
Shockwave has not shown progress w Peyronies Disease.
Quote from: TonySa on October 08, 2020, 10:55:50 PM
Shockwave has not shown progress w Peyronies Disease.
You are incorrect TonySa. I am not sure how studied you ar eon shockwave, I am years in studied of shockwave. Please delete false information. Just a 10 second google search will show you. And this was in 2016, more advancements and clinical trials since then For example "LiESWT remains a useful and valid minimally invasive treatment option for men with Peyronies Disease who have failed conventional medical therapy and are not keen to undergo surgical intervention. In a carefully selected group of men with Peyronies Disease, LiESWT appears to be safe, has moderate efficacy in improving penile curvature and pain, and is associated with high level of acceptance and patient satisfaction rate." https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4893523/
"Hatzichristodoulou reported an increase in penile deviation in 40% of patients following LiESWT although only five (10.9%) patients showed an increase in plaque size in this group (14). Similarly, Chitale reported deterioration in dorsal and lateral angle in LiESWT compared to control group, with no change in plaque size in most of the patients from both groups (15). In fact, most patients who showed an increased penile deviation after LiESWT also showed an increase in plaque size confirming that an increase in plaque size correlates with worsening of penile deviation."
I conclude more a case of it can be beneficial but is too risky . there is little knowledge & no consensus how it works but theories include damaging the plaque, in which case how do you know it won't damage healthy tissue too much? If ita via an inflammatory reponse then runs counter to using anti inflammatory agents to manage/treat the condition.
anyone try this yet? (Link removed - You posted this once. Do not spam the forum with this commercial link) Admin
Hi all,
I am a 50 year old widower that has a 30 degree upward curve from Peyronie's. The onset dates back to early 2018.
I saw a urologist in early 2019 who prescribed 400 mg of Pentox twice a day with the use of a tracking device at the rate of 1 hour/twice a day. He told me it would take a long time for the treatment to work but after 6 months of daily tracking I noticed the device was creating more damage to my penis due to the tightness that had to be used in order to keep the head of my penis from slipping out of the noose.
So I stopped doing the traction exercises but kept taking the Pentox at the rate of 400 mg/day, figuring it wouldn't hurt to keep as much blood flowing into my penis as possible.
I am now looking to purchase an ESWT machine and would very much appreciate any input anyone can give me on what would be a good machine to invest in. I have done much research as far as studies and many of them have shown very good results using this technology.
From what I've gathered so far, the latest in urology for treatment of Peyronie's would be using a Low intensity Focused ShockWave as opposed to Radial, with these particular settings:
Energy: 0.1-0.25 mJ/mm2 Frequency: 3 Hz. 6 treatments: 2/week with 1 week interval on an erect penis.
I know there are machines out there that have both sets of heads, radial and focused. I am considering one of those since the radial heads can be used for treating ED. Does anyone here own such a machine and/or have tried one? And if so, what would be a good machine to invest in?
Many thanks.
Does anybody know if any of these devices would be covered by an insurance? and there for might be covered by the VA.