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Title: QUESTION: Does anyone know the best ways to reduce calcification in plaque?
Post by: Tom_E on October 02, 2020, 01:01:50 AM
QUESTION: Does anyone know the best ways to reduce calcification in plaque?

I finally have coverage for Xiaflex shots, but the doctor says I have some calcification that can lower the success rate for these shots.
Any help reducing calcification would be much appreciated as I am spending some large amounts of money on these shots.

Thanks my brothers.
Tom
Title: Re: QUESTION: Does anyone know the best ways to reduce calcification in plaque?
Post by: Shafted on October 02, 2020, 09:54:29 PM
I don't know that calcification can be reduced.  I've gone through 3 rounds of Xiaflex so far and my results have been excellent.  What my doctor did was vector the medicine meaning he would inject a plaque, back the needle out, and inject the same plaque in a different spot.  The reasoning for this is that these plaques are extremely dense.  Think about it like injecting a sponge compared to styrofoam.  The sponge is normal tissue, the styrofoam is the plaque... the medicine does not travel well.
Title: Re: QUESTION: Does anyone know the best ways to reduce calcification in plaque?
Post by: Olive on October 02, 2020, 11:39:41 PM
Yes and it's easy, just take vitamin d, vitamin k2 MK7 and magnesium. I just started to take 30 000 IU vitamin d, 600 mcg k2 mk7 and 1000mg magnesium every single day. This will remove any calcifications that I might have and it will make my penis bigger too.
Title: Re: QUESTION: Does anyone know the best ways to reduce calcification in plaque?
Post by: Tom_E on October 04, 2020, 03:25:40 AM
Hey thanks guys, for the advice!  I will research it more as well. Its good we can compare notes.
Title: Re: QUESTION: Does anyone know the best ways to reduce calcification in plaque?
Post by: Olive on October 04, 2020, 03:44:16 AM
I urge everyone to read Dr. Judson Somerville's book The Optimal Dose : Restore Your Health With the Power of Vitamin D3, MD Thomas E. Levy's book Magnesium: Reversing Disease and watching MenaQ7 k2 instructional videos. You can buy these two e-books from amazon, they don't cost a lot.
Title: Re: QUESTION: Does anyone know the best ways to reduce calcification in plaque?
Post by: jan.schaller1958 on October 04, 2020, 12:10:15 PM
Olive

Do you seriously believe taking diet supplements, vitamins like D, K2 and magnesium can eliminate calcification and increase penile length? It won't. That's a guarantee or everyone would be doing it. Any fool with an MD after his name can write a book foolish Ill-informed people will buy, just to make himself money and make all sorts of outlandish claims. These people are just dismissed by the medical community. There's not even prescription drug that will make your penis bigger, let alone some worthless vitamin. There is no prescription drugs to cure Peyroines.  Only people who don't eat right need vitamins anyway. You should be getting all you need from your diet. Any MD who says taking a vitamin or vitamins will cure Peyroines or make your penis bigger is an idiot quack and fraud who should lose his license. He's a charlatan and trickster preying on the gullible.
Title: Re: QUESTION: Does anyone know the best ways to reduce calcification in plaque?
Post by: Olive on October 04, 2020, 12:27:29 PM
Jan, all three of these have been shown in scientific studies to reduce calcification, it's not about whether YOU believe it or not, it's a proven fact. Don't open your mouth if you don't know what you are talking about. If you don't want to improve your health, then fine, no one cares, but don't try to spread lies. Human stupidity never ceases to amaze me. 
Title: Re: QUESTION: Does anyone know the best ways to reduce calcification in plaque?
Post by: BadLuck on October 04, 2020, 01:10:23 PM
Olive, can you post a link to these studies? 

Title: Re: QUESTION: Does anyone know the best ways to reduce calcification in plaque?
Post by: Olive on October 04, 2020, 01:44:54 PM
Here's three magnesium studies.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/2133625/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28663256/

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/322866710_Magnesium_prevents_vascular_calcification_in_vitro_by_inhibition_of_hydroxyapatite_crystal_formation

One k2 study. There's a lot more but you can find them yourself, I don't get paid for doing this, except I just get this bitching from ungrateful people.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25694037/

And one vitamin d study.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/01/180102114147.htm

Plus Vitamin d and k2 combo for penis enlargement.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/322071346_Enhanced_Growth_of_the_Adult_Penis_With_Vitamin_D_3

I really don't know why I even bother to help people in this forum, majority of people here are so uneducated and ignorant that they really do deserve malformed cock.
Title: Re: QUESTION: Does anyone know the best ways to reduce calcification in plaque?
Post by: jan.schaller1958 on October 04, 2020, 02:49:58 PM
Olive,

You can quote all sorts of studies of 80 men or so, or less, and just because it got published doesn't mean it's the end of the story or proves anything. I can take all your citations to board certified internists or specialists, and I've done this before, and get comments like ,,Terrible case controls", ,,too small a study sample to mean much. Very speculative."  ,,this report is just garbage and belongs in the trash." And, so on and on.

You're not serious with vitamin studies are you?
Title: Re: QUESTION: Does anyone know the best ways to reduce calcification in plaque?
Post by: jan.schaller1958 on October 04, 2020, 03:01:11 PM
Olive,

And I really hope you are not serious with the magnesium, vitamin k and D studies. If I took them to my internist friend he'd just laugh. This stuff mentions ,,associations" (not proven causation), and hypotheses, which are little more than quasi-educated guesses, prove zero. They aren't even intended to prove anything. That's obvious. They are just speculations designed to spark inquiry. If this stuff worked, there'd be no Peyroines specialists or cardiologists in business. My cardiologist, Dr. Mitchell, would laugh at these ,,studies" and just through them in the trash, because he's probably already read them and knows they prove nothing.
Title: Re: QUESTION: Does anyone know the best ways to reduce calcification in plaque?
Post by: jan.schaller1958 on October 04, 2020, 03:07:25 PM
Yeah, I suppose what do we need hospitals and doctors for for Peyroines? Just order a bunch of vitamin supplements and magnesium and a few books off Amazon and you'll all be good to go.
Title: Re: QUESTION: Does anyone know the best ways to reduce calcification in plaque?
Post by: Olive on October 04, 2020, 03:09:12 PM
Hmmm, I wonder why your beloved internists and specialists don't like vitamins and minerals, could it be that those are natural substances that you can't patent and profit like crazy? You can't have a deficiency of xiaflex, but you can have a vitamin or mineral deficiency.

I don't expect you to understand these things, they can be a little to complicated for a simpleton.
Title: Re: QUESTION: Does anyone know the best ways to reduce calcification in plaque?
Post by: jan.schaller1958 on October 04, 2020, 04:16:36 PM
Olive,

The reason my doctor friends and the internist I consulted don't recommend vitamin supplements, magnesium and all this other garbage is because a)you don't need them. Your body gets all you need if you just eat a healthy diet, and b) overloading on unnecessary supplements doesn't do anything.

This reminds me of Linus Pauling. Yeah, he was well-respected and won awards for various things, and then he pushed a quack theory of taking high doses of vitamin C in the 70s to prevent or shorten colds. Turned out wrong on that. I've had many doctors tell me ,,Don't take vitamin or mineral supplements unless you are deficient. Your body just doesn't need them, and it may even be harmful." So, I've never taken vitamins or mineral supplements. Just a waste of good money for nothing.
Title: Re: QUESTION: Does anyone know the best ways to reduce calcification in plaque?
Post by: Olive on October 04, 2020, 11:32:24 PM
Jan, you are either mentally retarded person or a troll, either way I'm not gonna give you any responses ever again, it's just a waste of time. I actually met a person who deserves to have Peyronie's, I'm not a religious person but these moments in life makes me want to believe.
Title: Re: QUESTION: Does anyone know the best ways to reduce calcification in plaque?
Post by: jan.schaller1958 on October 05, 2020, 02:21:26 PM
Olive

Just because I don't buy into some BS about magnesium or vitamins curing Peyroines? What a joke. Just because some dummy says, ,,It's a proven fact" doesn't make it so. Anyone can say that. And just because some dope wrote a book about something or posts it on the internet doesn't make it true either. God how naive can you get.
Title: Re: QUESTION: Does anyone know the best ways to reduce calcification in plaque?
Post by: TonySa on October 05, 2020, 08:24:41 PM
OMG guys, can we stop w the pissing contest?
Title: Re: QUESTION: Does anyone know the best ways to reduce calcification in plaque?
Post by: jan.schaller1958 on October 05, 2020, 08:40:35 PM
Well, Tony, Olive started all of this with his quack vitamin and mineral ,,cure" for Peyroines.  See, it's true because he read it in a book off Amazon. And I'm the simpleton? And I think the moderator took out the part where he said God probably gave me Peyroines.  LOL. (I forgot why. Maybe punishment for being stubborn or something?  :)
Title: Re: QUESTION: Does anyone know the best ways to reduce calcification in plaque?
Post by: AlterEgo on October 17, 2020, 05:15:50 AM
Quote from: Olive on October 02, 2020, 11:39:41 PM
Yes and it's easy, just take vitamin d, vitamin k2 MK7 and magnesium. I just started to take 30 0000 IU vitamin d, 600 mcg k2 mk7 and 1000mg magnesium every single day. This will remove any calcifications that I might have and it will make my penis bigger too.
Do you mean 3,000 units of vitamin D I think 300,000 units is quite a lot sir
Title: Re: QUESTION: Does anyone know the best ways to reduce calcification in plaque?
Post by: Olive on October 17, 2020, 05:39:17 AM
Quote from: AlterEgo on October 17, 2020, 05:15:50 AM
Do you mean 3,000 units of vitamin D I think 300,000 units is quite a lot sir

Sorry, that was my mistake, I meant 30 000 IU is the optimal dose in Dr. Somerville's book. I decided to take just 5000 IU per day for now and lot's of magnesium and k2. 
Title: Re: QUESTION: Does anyone know the best ways to reduce calcification in plaque?
Post by: knowledge81 on August 01, 2021, 01:14:42 AM
Quote from: Olive on October 17, 2020, 05:39:17 AM
Sorry, that was my mistake, I meant 30 000 IU is the optimal dose in Dr. Somerville's book. I decided to take just 5000 IU per day for now and lot's of magnesium and k2.

Any update after taking these 3 for nearly a year?
Title: Re: QUESTION: Does anyone know the best ways to reduce calcification in plaque?
Post by: P1992 on August 01, 2021, 09:46:57 AM
I would also like to know
Title: Re: QUESTION: Does anyone know the best ways to reduce calcification in plaque?
Post by: Sanabo on August 02, 2021, 08:42:25 AM
Doubt it worked. I hate to say it but supplements don't seem to reverse at all. They might slow or halt progression but I think you need rehab (VED, PTT) or injections and prayers for reversal of this nightmare.