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Title: Androtherm Study shows huge improvement in Peyronies Disease patients
Post by: Mlathem on April 29, 2016, 11:10:47 AM
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Gianfranco_Baronzio/publication/256379235_Androtherm_Application_for_the_Peyronies_Disease/links/0c96052432a3ac6bc6000000.pdf

Let me know you guys thoughts after reading this.

Thanks,
Michael
Title: Re: Androtherm Study shows huge improvement in Peyronies Disease patients
Post by: popopo on April 29, 2016, 12:01:46 PM
They only have results from 22 people so I'll just wait and see. I still don't really get how it works, could you describe in a easy way? Hopefully they'll have more succes with this in the future. I'm glad to see that people are trying different things so hopefully it won't be too long before they find the real deal.
Title: Re: Androtherm Study shows huge improvement in Peyronies Disease patients
Post by: Gutted on April 29, 2016, 12:48:23 PM
Pretty interesting.

I've been researching the company Oncotherm GmbH who, according to the paper, own the Androtherm device. I can't find it anywhere so far, so I guess it doesn't matter how good it is if we can't get access to the device somehow.

Interestingly though, we now know why we are getting such good results from Hot Hands heatpacks .... somewhat less technical than an Androtherm  :D

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16019862

Would be nice to be able to see the whole paper though, so we could see the 'method' and get some idea of the degree and period of hyperthermia
Title: Re: Androtherm Study shows huge improvement in Peyronies Disease patients
Post by: melting on June 14, 2016, 01:28:48 PM
At certain temperatures the hard plague fibers get "stretchy" again. Has to do with the properties of collagen.
In that moment stretching or applying transdermal solutions might aid the process. In the right individual dosage heat(and cold) therapy makes total sense cause of the nature of the tissue.

There is much literature about the tissue when it comes different body parts(sport therapy for example). Some of it can be compared as the process is similar in tendons for example.
Title: Re: Androtherm Study shows huge improvement in Peyronies Disease patients
Post by: NeoV on June 14, 2016, 09:13:14 PM
This study has been discussed on other threads. It's a good one for sure, and hypothermia does appear to be helpful. As mentioned above, heat pads, heat lamps, and the rice sock, are used commonly here. It certainly my seems to have helped me combined with traction.
Title: Re: Androtherm Study shows huge improvement in Peyronies Disease patients
Post by: skunkworks on June 15, 2016, 12:02:55 AM
It's kinda funny how often that study has been 'discovered'. This is the 8th time that I have witnessed :)

It's been on the forum since 2006 - Hyperthermia treatment for Peyronies Disease - Clinical Study (PDF Document) - Peyronies Society Forums (https://www.peyroniesforum.net/index.php/topic,294.0.html)

Full text pdf in that link btw.
Title: Re: Androtherm Study shows huge improvement in Peyronies Disease patients
Post by: james1947 on June 15, 2016, 08:07:08 PM
So if it is soooooo successful, available 10 years already, why is not "THE" Peyronies treatment today?
Don't want to discourage no one, just wandering ???

James
Title: Re: Androtherm Study shows huge improvement in Peyronies Disease patients
Post by: NeoV on June 16, 2016, 01:40:22 AM
Surely because it's not profitable James. No reason to go to a urologist when you can use a rice sock. Same goes for traction by hand. Much better to patent a drug which costs 20 thousand dollars. I would love to see more studies on hypothermia and one on manual traction! I am not trying to put forth a conspiracy theory here but just offering one side of the story.
Title: Re: Androtherm Study shows huge improvement in Peyronies Disease patients
Post by: skunkworks on June 16, 2016, 02:13:45 AM
Well in my opinion it is because it is hard to do. Before the handwarmer thing, keeping a steady application of heat was very difficult, near impossible without some expensive heating lamp thing.

Doctors make zero profit off most things they prescribe, which is a good thing. If there was an easy way to apply consistent heat, which had a study with good results behind it, doctors would prescribe it.
Title: Re: Androtherm Study shows huge improvement in Peyronies Disease patients
Post by: TonySa on October 15, 2017, 06:40:06 PM
Has anyone found the device, trademarked as "treat-therm"?