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Title: Regaining dimensions with VED: possibilities
Post by: YoungGuy97 on September 17, 2018, 08:36:52 AM
Hi everyone,

My VED device (Somacorrect) should arrive this week and I'm looking forward to getting started with it. I'm mainly eager to restore girth, but any improvement with the curve and length are welcome too. I have a few questions though:

1) Is it possible to restore your orgininal dimensions with VED? I remember reading Old Man managed to do so, but what do you guys think?

2) I heard that results gained with VED tend to be only temporary if not maintained by daily usage of the device. Why is this and is there a way to make it permanent? For comparison: traction is based on somewhat the same principle and the PTT results do seem to be permanent.

Thanks!
YG
Title: Re: Regaining dimensions with VED: possibilities
Post by: JS1991 on September 19, 2018, 11:18:08 PM
From what I've read the results seem to be permanent, although I may be wrong. As far as original dimensions, it can be achieved but not by all (again going by what I've read) but I'd say you should be able to at the least gain some of it back. Apparently it takes a long time (6-12 months+) to see full results.

If you can link to Old Man saying he managed to get original dimensions back as well as VED being temporary I'd be very interested in reading those posts.
Title: Re: Regaining dimensions with VED: possibilities
Post by: TonySa on September 20, 2018, 12:30:34 PM
VED is a great physical therapy, are you adding pentox, low dose daily PDE5 inhibitor or other approaches/supplements to maximize treatment?
Title: Re: Regaining dimensions with VED: possibilities
Post by: YoungGuy97 on September 20, 2018, 05:10:25 PM
Thanks for your reactions.

@JS
I will look for the post of Old Man on the forum, I can't find it back immediately but it's out there somewhere.
Concerning the improvements being temporary for some guys: some people told me you have to maintain your gains daily.
I mean it's good that you improve, but you would prefer permanent gains of course.

@Tsanchez
At the moment I'm taking pentox 2 or 3 times (400mg) a day. 
To optimize treatment I added Q10 (100mg, 2 or 3 times daily) to this.
I'll restart with daily tadalafil (5mg) soon too if it doesn't let my blood pressure go too low in combo with the Q10 (I heard that's possible).
I got my schedule for college today and it seems I don't have many hours so I'll be looking for a traction device too.
Title: Re: Regaining dimensions with VED: possibilities
Post by: james1947 on September 23, 2018, 02:57:21 AM
I can talk just from my experience.
With VED, Pentox and low dose Cialis got back 1.5 cm.
Now I am using VED from time to time, the gain is there, permanent.

James
Title: Re: Regaining dimensions with VED: possibilities
Post by: Monty on September 24, 2018, 04:30:55 AM
https://www.peyroniesforum.net/index.php/topic,10669.0.html

link to my VED use, yes I gained a full 1.5" which i lost when Peyronies Disease struck me.
Title: Re: Regaining dimensions with VED: possibilities
Post by: JS1991 on September 24, 2018, 05:44:09 PM
Was that length or girth? My main problem is girth loss via hourglassing, so I'm hoping that can be at least partially regained.
Title: Re: Regaining dimensions with VED: possibilities
Post by: Monty on September 25, 2018, 03:01:10 AM
Hi, I regained the 1.5 inch lost when Peyronies Disease hit me, also gained over a inch in girth.
Title: Re: Regaining dimensions with VED: possibilities
Post by: JS1991 on September 25, 2018, 03:08:59 PM
That's great to hear! Was the inch of girth a gain from your baseline, or was that something you had lost due to Peyronie's that you gained back? And was this inch of girth gained uniformly throughout your penis? Also, how many months did it take? Thanks for the help!
Title: Re: Regaining dimensions with VED: possibilities
Post by: Monty on September 26, 2018, 02:42:17 AM
Hi JS1991, yes the girth gain was above my normal girth, the full length and glans increased, thats why i had problems using the 'C' cylinder.
Title: Re: Regaining dimensions with VED: possibilities
Post by: ConcernedandWorried on October 02, 2018, 10:10:15 PM
How are your erections, Monty? I've heard before about people who enlarge their penises with these devices, and often they lose the ability to have hard erections. That is exactly what is making me hesitant to use it to treat my Peyronie's. It's not even clear to me what exactly the mechanism is with these devices that helps to treat the condition. What are they changing? Is there any science here?
Title: Re: Regaining dimensions with VED: possibilities
Post by: diehardpatriot on October 02, 2018, 10:19:26 PM
Lots of science here man. The traction induced smooth muscle cell growth for one. Secondly the sheer act of stretching out the bundled up scar tissue is also a reason for regained length
Title: Re: Regaining dimensions with VED: possibilities
Post by: ConcernedandWorried on October 02, 2018, 10:53:25 PM
Patriot, when should I be using these, then? Do I wait for the acute phase to complete?
Title: Re: Regaining dimensions with VED: possibilities
Post by: Pfract on October 02, 2018, 11:39:30 PM
Yeah, lots of science but no pictures... Few if, any. ''oh, I gained this and that back ''.... But no pictures. Only text.
Title: Re: Regaining dimensions with VED: possibilities
Post by: Monty on October 03, 2018, 09:42:49 AM
@ concernedandworried,
I suffer from ED so I don't get hard normal erection, I take 50 mg of Sildenafil every other day, this gives me fantastic erection, they seem to stay active for around 10 hours, so i get great morning erections as a bonus.
Title: Re: Regaining dimensions with VED: possibilities
Post by: Gabriel on October 03, 2018, 10:56:43 AM
Hey pfract,

I agree it would be even better with pictures, but we do have at least "potentially reliable" studies, and overall we have a lot of testimonies here from a lot of people who have been spending a huge amount of time on the forum, who claim to have improved with traction, and whose honesty is not something that can be discussed (NeoV, TSanchez, and many others)...

So yes, we can stand that traction does work for some, and maybe for many; wheter it works on you, and to what extent, is something you have to find for yourself, following a thorough and rigourous protocol for months. Only after that, you can claim "it works / doesn't work on me". And I do hope it'll work for you, and I do hope it'll work for me^^!
Title: Re: Regaining dimensions with VED: possibilities
Post by: ConcernedandWorried on October 03, 2018, 12:54:00 PM
Gabriel, what are these improvements? If I've lost an inch, what is the best case scenario for my recovery? I can't seem to find any information here. Most importantly, I can't find any attestation from young people. My hope is that as someone under 30, my potential for recovery is somewhat greater than the average sufferer of this disease.
Title: Re: Regaining dimensions with VED: possibilities
Post by: Gabriel on October 03, 2018, 04:18:30 PM
Hey buddy,

If you've lost an inch, your best case scenario is to recover an inch. Period^^! And wheter you are young or old.

There are people here who will answer you with a personal story and experience (me, I'm still struggling with inflammation and trying to minimize the loss; recovering will come later). If I'm not mistaken, Monty recovered a lost inch, as Tsanchez; and I guess Old Man too recovered more than an inch with VED. Oh and Swiss too, who recovered and even gained length.

I let all these good people speak for themselves. I just wanted to tell you: it's absolutely logical to be upset, concerned, worried; but no, it's not an obligation to remain in this state of mind for the time that Peyronies Disease will last.

And yes, it's normal and logical to absolutely want to control or anticipate your case, but the thing is, the sooner you understand that you can't, the better for you. Psychologically, Peyronies Disease is all about learning to live, and even (later) to live happy, with a total incapacity to anticipate what your penis will look like in 6 months. There are things that are under your control, and that you must thoroughly do (traction, pills, lifestyle...); there are things which aren't, and you are going to learn to live with them, with less and less pain, and finally with calm and equanimity.

And all along this way, we'll be there for advice and support ;-)
Title: Re: Regaining dimensions with VED: possibilities
Post by: hope794 on October 03, 2018, 06:26:36 PM
Wow Gabriel.. you talk like a shaolin monk  ;D great great comment. Totally agreed, you are really wise.
Title: Re: Regaining dimensions with VED: possibilities
Post by: curved on October 03, 2018, 06:57:31 PM
Agree hope.... very well said Gabriel
Title: Re: Regaining dimensions with VED: possibilities
Post by: ConcernedandWorried on October 04, 2018, 10:59:42 AM
Okay, so, are the (re)gains then permanent? I'm seeing conflicting information here. Honestly, I'd rather get used to my penis being smaller than have to regularly wear a ridiculous device for hours on end.
Title: Re: Regaining dimensions with VED: possibilities
Post by: Monty on October 04, 2018, 11:07:24 AM
Hi, i use mt VED for 15 minutes a day, have keep my re-gains for the last 9 months or so, if i have to carry on with the 15 minutes daily then i don't mind, i get pleasure from using my VED, it feels good to exercise my penis each morning .
Title: Re: Regaining dimensions with VED: possibilities
Post by: lostit on December 10, 2018, 12:20:52 PM
hey Monty, for 15 minutes daily...do you inflate and release or keep it inflated
Title: Re: Regaining dimensions with VED: possibilities
Post by: JS1991 on December 10, 2018, 07:07:19 PM
To be safe, you should pump and release. People have injured themselves holding. I'm debating getting a VED with a pressure gauge to see if it makes a difference, because apparently anything in the 5(whatever the measurement is; hG I think)+ range of pressure can cause edema.