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Erectile Dysfunction Forum - for all men with ED => Injections for Erectile Dysfunction => Topic started by: Vandelay on October 23, 2018, 01:05:22 PM

Title: Invicorp
Post by: Vandelay on October 23, 2018, 01:05:22 PM
Any experiences with invicorp (Aviptadil, Phentolamine)? Is it better than Caverject?
Title: Re: Invicorp
Post by: Hawk on October 23, 2018, 03:00:24 PM
I am pretty anti injections for Erectile Dysfunction since it caused my Peyronies and ultimate loss of length.  Some people do get away with it for longer and with fewer problems than other men.  I injected bimix for 8 months 2 -3 times weekly.  Bimix is Phentolamine / Papaverine

TriMix adds Alprostadil.  Alprostadil belongs to a class of medications known as prostaglandins

Caverject is Alprostadil alone.  Aviptadil is Alprostadil and Phentolamine So it is a type of bimix that swaps  Alprostadil for Papaverine

From my experience and understanding, Caverject causes pain with the erection (I only had one shot).  It is just an aching that you wish would go away. I THINK however that it does not normally cause fibrosis where the other two drugs can cause fibrosis.  Basically, you choose between possible painful erections or fibrosis although these are side-effects that all men do not experience.

You just have to experiment to see what works best for you but PLEASE monitor you size, bend, etc.  Everyone that injects needs to be very alert to any changes in their penis.  Get precise measurement first and monitor any changes in size or shape.  Keep in mind that just because you stop injecting at the first sign of fibrosis or deformity does NOT mean the deformity will stop progressing.  Once Peyronies Disease has been triggered it runs a course of its own.

Title: Re: Invicorp
Post by: pey ron on October 25, 2018, 12:49:27 AM
@hawk: what gauge needle were you using?
Title: Re: Invicorp
Post by: Hawk on October 25, 2018, 01:28:33 PM
Very small insulin needles  30 gauge.  Sometimes 29 Guage
Title: Re: Invicorp
Post by: TonySa on October 26, 2018, 11:32:47 AM
Also, if injecting: after EVERY injection compress the site for 8-10 minutes to stop all INTERNAL bleeding which can lead to micro trauma and peyronies.  (Just waiting for the external bleeding to stop us NOT adequate.). These are Dr Lyes instructions and he is convinced this is what creates the problems w injections (my peyronies was also caused by injections).  I don’t know if all or most peyronies injection induced cases can be prevented this way—but certainly an important prevention effort.
Title: Re: Invicorp
Post by: Hawk on October 26, 2018, 12:28:33 PM
Also, if injecting: after EVERY injection compress the site for 8-10 minutes to stop all INTERNAL bleeding which can lead to micro trauma and peyronies......  I don’t know if all or most peyronies injection induced cases can be prevented this way—but certainly an important prevention effort.

This is clearly important.  Whole blood deposited in tissue can by itself cause fibrosis.  That is often the cause of adhesions after surgery.  Having said that, the agents in Bimix are known to have a side-effect of fibrosis.  It is on the pharmaceutical insert.  In addition, Dr. Eid assured me this is known to erectile dysfunction doctors.
Title: Re: Invicorp
Post by: TonySa on October 26, 2018, 02:38:24 PM
Oh I had known this I would have started w the Rx that is less likely to cause fibrosis.  A sticky on injection drugs might be a helpful addition to the Erectile Dysfunction forum.
Title: Re: Invicorp
Post by: mlc2010 on November 01, 2018, 09:34:48 PM
Any experiences with invicorp (Aviptadil, Phentolamine)? Is it better than Caverject?

Uk User here

I can confirm in my case, invicorp works better than 40mcg of caverject of me, dont ask why, it just does
Title: Re: Invicorp
Post by: Vandelay on November 02, 2018, 08:16:21 AM
mlc2010

Thanks. I’ll try it. If it doesn’t work I’ll have to get an implant.