PEYRONIE’S Symptoms & Confirmation

[santos]

I'll cut to the chase because I'm in semi-panic mode.

I'm 25 and have recently started using a stimulant drug that causes vasoconstriction, Focalin.  It helps me study and it makes me feel good. So the other night I decided to more than the usual dose, then a little more, then some more.  My penis shriveled up very small and I couldn't easily get an erection.  When I got an erection it was the normal size, but when I wasn't erect my penis was cold and small. After fooling around like this for a few hours I realized I may be causing serious problems. I put a warm compress on it to increase blood flow and that helped.  This morning it was small and a good portion of my penis feels harder all around.  Not like a specific spot or calcified plaque, it's just like the tunica albuginea is less elastic. Things got better throughout the day and I noticed when my body is warmer my penis looks better overall. I got hard once and it looked pretty normal, but I notice my penis head is a cold sometimes and the TA is less elastic, sorta hard, but can still fill with blood and give me an erection (I think).

(1) what should I be doing RIGHT NOW?  Oral remedies? Creams? What???

(2) Any clue what happened?  I'm thinking lack of oxygen to that area really messed something up, I hope it's not permanent.

Thanks, please help!

Santos.

[cowboyfood]

santos,

other forum members are better qualified than me to address your issue, but from what I've learned here, a flaccid penis' appearence can change throughout the day for many legitimate and normal reasons.

You've come to a conclusion based on a "cause and effect" situation from the focalin.  I don't even know what that is, but maybe you're making a plausible argument.

In any event, the supplement L-arginine will make a flaccid penis feel and look fuller.  

Use the forum's search feature to read about it....oh, I suggest clicking on the magnifying glass icon to the left of the search box, enter the term "L-arginine" in the left box and enter one of the following member names in the right box "hawk, george999, or tim488."

Based on what they say about this supplement, it should help.  I use it and I notice the difference.

CF

[skunkworks]

Um, stop using the stimulant?  

[santos]

Where should I get L-arginine?  GNC?  Which brand or spectrum?

Should I consider any other vasodilator or anti-inflam?  I've been taking Ibuprofen throughout the day and large amounts of Vit E.

I was able to achieve an erection this morn. It wasnt as hard as usual, but I was in the shower, tired, and I feel very sick. So.... I dont know what to think

Thanks for the help

[newguy]

I would STOP taking the stimulant, and (if a urologist suggests so) START taking trental, l-arginine and viagra for a while. The first and last of which are prescription medications. If you cut off bloodflow and oxygen to your penis for a long period, it may not be an entirely dissimiliar situation to priapism, where damage caused can sometimes be reversed by use of the drugs mentions.

It's possible that everything will be fine, but you should go see a doctor, be honest about what has happened and avoid making similiar mistakes in future.

[snowydreams]

If one has similar symptoms as Peyronies(abnormal curvature of penis, penile pain, etc), but no plaque(based on several urologists' examinations) is it still considered Peyronies?  I was reading in a book which stated that there is a form of Peyronies where plaque is not physically detected.  How is this form of Peyronies treated?

[George999]

If one has similar symptoms as Peyronies(abnormal curvature of penis, penile pain, etc), but no plaque(based on several urologists' examinations) is it still considered Peyronies?  I was reading in a book which stated that there is a form of Peyronies where plaque is not physically detected.  How is this form of Peyronies treated?

Its really all the same thing.  Plaque is the result of inflammation.  The inflammation can be acute and at times painful and this will typically produce a lump in the area where the plaque is being formed.  But it can also be chronic and subliminal with no detectable lump, but nevertheless capable of forming plaque.  Its all treated the same way.  - George

[BentYoung]

Snowy,

I believe that I have this exact condition. I have had hourglass deformities and upwards curve since my early adolescence. Went to 5 Uros, including Dr. Lue, and none of them can feel plaque. I have also had an ultrasound with no abnormalities. So I have to assume that I don't have a plaque, yet everything isn't all good. This is a weird limbo of frustration. My theory is that there is no "plaque free" Peyronies Disease; there is the easily detected and the hidden. What Peyronies Disease suffers need is a definite diagnostic tool - something that picks up Peyronies Disease in all cases. I bet the percentage of men with confirmed plaque would jump to a substantial percentage. I think Peyronies Disease is more common than people know - most live with it without knowing and the unfortunate few on this site know all too well...  

[danh]

  Looks like I may have PDS.  After an injury about a month or so ago, I really have a good bend, like pointing to my left shoulder. And painful. Pain has subsided somewhat.  Before that it was just a big curve. Had the curve for years. I'm really getting discouraged. I went to the uro about the pain, before the big bend showed up. Came out of the uros office with lavitra and vitamin e and "get on some blood  pressure medicine".  Not really happy with that visit. Think I'll try another urologist. When first googling peyronies, seems I was directed to the fastsize site.  I guess maybe we all know about that device. Not sure how many uros recommend this product. The bad bend started this week, so I don't know if I should buy this right away and start using it or do the wait and see approach. Does anyone out there know of a good uro in Atlanta that will treat this condition?  Any help about anything would be greatly appreciated. I'm sure this condition can weigh very heavy on your brain.

[Old Man]

danh:

Check with Cowboyfood about a good uro in Atlanta. He lives in that area.

Old Man

[danh]

Thanks. I'll shoot cowboyfood a note.

[Old Man]

danh:

Make it a private message so you can discuss private meatters if you so desire.

Old Man

[ALONTBSOL]

Hi i'm a newbie to the forum.  I found a small lump in my penis just behind the glans a few months ago and got it checked out about a month ago as it was causing concern and a little pain.  The doctor said it wasn't cancer, just some fibrous tissue, probably caused by some trauma (i don't remember any trauma!).

Anyway, i wasn't really happy with the explanation and after looking around the internet i find myself here.
So firstly i need to know if this is the first stage of Peyronies?

If so, will having erections make things worse and so best avoided, or should i start masturbating 6 times a day to somehow increase bloodflow, or whatever?
I understand that everyones symptoms and progression are different but i would like to know what is best to do at this early stage?
Also, this lump/ball just behind my glans...is it plaque, or is it some swelling phase, or what?

There are some real horror stories on here and i am rather scared shitless at the moment so could you also tell me if anyone knows how bad this gets for most people and what is an extreme case?
Could it be that a 30 degree bend is about average and over 50 is seen as extreme, or is 50 normal and over 85 extreme, or stuff like that.

Note, i was circumcised as a teenager as i had a constricting band of tissue that prevented my foreskin from retracting and my father and his brother both had treatment for Dupuytren's, so i guess i had it coming!

[slowandsteady]

If so, will having erections make things worse and so best avoided, or should i start masturbating 6 times a day to somehow increase bloodflow, or whatever?

The consensus around here seems to be that roughness should be avoided. Increasing bloodflow most think good. Some do it by viagra and the like; I use the pycnogenol/l-arginine combo.

About how far your Peyronies Disease will progress, I don't think it's possible to say.

[LWillisjr]

Anyway, i wasn't really happy with the explanation and after looking around the internet i find myself here.
So firstly i need to know if this is the first stage of Peyronies?

First off... Don't assume you have Peyronies Disease. We can't speculate if this is in a first stage or not. The first stage of Peyronies Disease is called the acute phase meaning it is active. The best thing you can do at this point is simply monitor your situation and watch for any other signs.

If so, will having erections make things worse and so best avoided, or should i start masturbating 6 times a day to somehow increase bloodflow, or whatever?

For now, don't do anything than you would normally. Maintaining blood flow is good, but masterbating 6 times a day sounds excessive to me. Assuming you are young and healthy you are probably getting several erections a day already.

I understand that everyones symptoms and progression are different but i would like to know what is best to do at this early stage? Also, this lump/ball just behind my glans...is it plaque, or is it some swelling phase, or what?

Again... we don't know. If you doctor said it is fibrous tissue, then I would assume just that. Peyronies Disease affects each of us in different ways so it is just too difficult to tell at this point. And again I will repeat that you should not assume you have or are getting Peyronies Disease at this point. There has been some association to Deputyn's Contracture, but still not enough evidence to say everyone he has DC will get Peyronies Disease.

You have done well to do some research and to educate yourself on Peyronies Disease. In the meantime carefully monitor yourself and watch for other symptoms. The first to watch for could b pain, beginning of curvature, or an increase in the size of the lump. Hopefully whatever you have is temporary and will go away.

[ALONTBSOL]

Firstly, thanks for the replys!
Secondly i should say that i am fast approaching 40 years old and, although still reasonably young, 6 times a day was just to make the point!
I accept that this is really too early to tell if what i have is Peyronies Disease or not.  Really all i want to know is if there is anything i could do to help, or at least not make things worse, for if it is Peyronies Disease.
I guess that there has simply not been enough studies done so far to answer the question, so i'll just be careful for a bit and see what happens.

I do have a question that doesn't apply to me, but maybe will to someone else and i'd like to know out of interest.  There is a lot of talk about Pentox.  Is this a preventative treatment, or is it used to make things better after things have settled down.  Also is it available in the UK?

[chiguy]

Pentox is a conservative treatment used for Peyronie's. It may be preventative, but for users who already have it, it helps by breaking down scar tissue and increasing blood flow. It is available in the UK. There is a UK doctor who utilizes the forum and hopefully will see this post. There is also a subforum on pentox located under oral treatments.

[ComeBacKid]

Pentox can be taken even if you have peyronies already, such as in my case, it will still help you, but the degree depends on your case, and how long you have had it.  One fellow on here told me he took pentox and it did nothing for him, but I've heard many people tell me it helped them.  Right now I'm creating my own therapy, which is doing VED daily to stretch out my tissue, and soon I will stop that and start pentox aggressively, I just finished a 9 month course of it 1 month ago and am taking a slight break before I go back on it for a longer course, of probably 1 year or more.  

Comebackid

[legdoctor]

Recently i noticed that when i get hard i have a small little lump, little smaller than the head of a match, its on the right side of the shaft as if u were looking down at your erection...
Its only there while penis is erect, and sometimes its hard to find.
It seems to move a little if i move my finger around on it... Its been there about two months , has not changed in size, no pain, no change in penis, but its still there!

I went to the doctor last week, he says theres nothing to worry about at all, just a bit of calcification, thats the word that worries me!!
He says it will go away over time......

Have any of u had the sme symptoms before being diagnosed with peyronies? i know two people with it but they said the lump was not moveable, and was bigger.....

I dont want to spend 300 euro to go to uroligist if i might be jumping the gun

Any help would be appreciated, im getting married in 5 months and all the stress is killing me.

Robert

[chiguy]

The doctor will probably know better than any of us, but it could be anything. The questions you need to ask are, is there any pain? Is there any curvature? Is it uncomfortable during intercourse?

It could be muscle tenderness, pulled tissue, or a small blood clot. At this point, it really could be anything. You might want to monitor it and maybe start 400 mg of vitamin E per day, which does sooth the area (but doesn't help for peyronie's.)

[George999]

As far as I know, someone correct me if I am wrong, the ONLY way to identify calcification with any certainty is with some sort of imaging, usually ultrasound.  Simply feeling is notoriously unreliable.  Non-calcified inflammatory plaques associated with Peyronie's can be rock hard.  My advice would definitely be to see a urologist, BUT if you can tell us what country you are in, perhaps someone here from the same place can recommend a good uro to help you with this, since a lot of them are next to useless when it comes to Peyronie's issues.  Any lump on the penis should cause you to find a doctor who can give you a positive diagnoses, not just say that its calcification, don't worry about it.  I definitely would NOT take that for an answer.  - George

[legdoctor]

thanks for your replies, Im in Ireland, Dulin to be more precise.......

[LWillisjr]

legdoctor,
I would not stress out over what you ahve described so far. It may have nothing to do with Peyronies Disease. My reason for this is your comment:

Recently i noticed that when i get hard i have a small little lump........
.....It seems to move a little if i move my finger around on it...
Robert

You should be able to determine if this "little lump" is in the skin that covers your penis as opposed to being in the tunica which is the tough tissue sheath the surronds your penis under the skin. If this lump is in your skin, then it likely could be nothing and could go away over time. By all means don't stress over it, but just monitor it for any changes.

Les

[George999]

Very perceptive Les.  I missed that.  I agree with your assessment.  Sounds like it might be a skin anomaly not a calcification.  - George

[goodear]

My urologist suggested that I may have Peyronies disease for the following symptoms.
At the moment before orgasm, a short pain, not excrusciating though, but a pain nevertheless, in the head of the penis. It occurs at the last big "expansion" before orgasm, and may occur with the first few contractions of orgasm, then it goes away. No pain during foreplay or after ejaculation. Just at the moment of orgasm. This condition makes me leery of having sex. I am 60 and have never had any such problem. This started about two months ago after some trauma to the penis and a blood spot appeared at the surface of the penis shaft. The blood spot disappeared within three weeks.

My urologist says this condition will result in a bent penis rarely and that I can expect it to go away in about 6 months. Has anyone had something like this, and how did it resolve? Thanks!  

[newguy]

My urologist suggested that I may have Peyronies disease for the following symptoms.
At the moment before orgasm, a short pain, not excrusciating though, but a pain nevertheless, in the head of the penis. It occurs at the last big "expansion" before orgasm, and may occur with the first few contractions of orgasm, then it goes away. No pain during foreplay or after ejaculation. Just at the moment of orgasm. This condition makes me leery of having sex. I am 60 and have never had any such problem. This started about two months ago after some trauma to the penis and a blood spot appeared at the surface of the penis shaft. The blood spot disappeared within three weeks.

My urologist says this condition will result in a bent penis rarely and that I can expect it to go away in about 6 months. Has anyone had something like this, and how did it resolve? Thanks!

I'm not sure that it's typical for peyronie's disease to be associated with pain at the point of orgasm, or specifically in the head of the penis - I'm sure others will correct me if I'm wrong. It is at least encouraging that you don't suffer pain at any other time. Your comment about trauma two months ago could hint at peyronie's though. Did your urologist simply do a physical examination or anything more extensive? If you do have peyronie's disease the your urologists assessment that it rarely results in curvature, and even if it does, it goes away after six months is not accurate. I don't you should get a second opinion and get to the bottom of this. That way, if it is peyronie's, or might be, you can begin treatments that may help you.

[NamelessHero]

Twenty years ago, when I was 18, I fractured my penis. It bent to the left, with stinging pain. Ever since then, I have experienced mild pain during sexual activities, as well as a continual loss of length and girth. I went to my General Practitioner, but he did not believe me, said it was in my head, and then gave me some Viagra. (I no longer go to that doctor...) He said he could not feel any plaques...

I was 7 inches or so, and big enough around that it was like a tube of toothpaste. Only Magnum condoms would fit. Now, 20 years later I am lucky to get 4 inches, and it is quite narrow.

In any case, the issue seems to be the location of the plaques. I can only feel them when I have an erection, and they are deep inside my abdomen, beneath my scrotum. They are like a spiral, on both sides. Can peyronie's be treated if it is not along the external shaft of the penis? They really are deep inside, near the penile bone. Any thoughts?

Also, do I have to go to a GP in order to go to a specialist?  

[newguy]

My first thought is that trying vacuum therapy (or possibly traction) might be useful to you. Many men have regained some length this way and if the plaques are at the base of below they may still benefit from the pull of the VED. From your description it sounds as if you've lost length over a great many years. Is that a accurate statement? I would hope that at least embarking on a treatment might prevent additional loss. Taking pentoxifylline could be helpful too.

[NamelessHero]

Yeah, it has been a long gradual decline. Can they do injections down below the base?  

[newguy]

I'm not sure how common it is to have peyronie's in such an area. I would imagine that it could be very tricky to inject in such a case, but I'm far from being an expert on that. Use of the VED or a traction device could possibly help to stretch areas even if it is within your body. As your condition appears to have been in decline for some years, I would say that using such a device, and taking pentoxifylline would be a good starting point. After 6 months or so, you may be in a position to tell whether that strategy has 1) not helped or 2) stablised your condition or 3) improved your condition.

[LWillisjr]

Also, do I have to go to a GP in order to go to a specialist?

I did not need a referral when I made my appointment with Dr. Levine.  

[Worriedwife]

I got back from a trip last night, and my husband voiced a concern about strange "indentations" on his erect penis. I, trying to assure him it was nothing, googled it and came upon "peyronies disease" and have not got us both concerned. He is 28, I'm 27- after researching it sounds like he may have the "hourglass" indentations. He's only noticed it very recently, he's also had occasional pain during an erection or orgasm... I never thought anything of it as he didn't act like it was crazy painful or seem concerned so I just thought that was "normal". We have never had any other sexual partners, so I have nothing to compare to. He's always had a slight curve, but again, thought it was normal "hanging a little to the left". You can't really see the indents by looking, but by feeling, and now that I read about the hard "plaque" he says he can feel something in there. He's never had any erectile disfunction, and never had any issues with orgasms, but again- I have nothing to compare it to... So not sure I would know if anything was "abnormal". I just feel so awful wondering if I was too rough at some point and caused this... I never knew anything like this could happen. Now I'm worried about hurting him more.... We are going to see a urologist... But in the meantime... Should we refrain, or just be gentle? Does "girl on top" position tend to cause this? Because that's one of our fav positions and I need to know if that, or anything else should be avoided. If this is just the first "phase" could his penis go on to get the curvature in addition to the hourglass indents, and does the hourglass tend to cause erectile disfunction down the road? I am just so fearful of the prospect of not being able to take care of my man... I know this has to be so much more scary for him- how can I support and encourage him thru this sensitive issue? Any advice is greatly appreciated. Thanks-

[Skjaldborg]

Worriedwife,

I got this disease at a young age as well (29) and having the support of my wonderful wife was one of the key things that has gotten me through this. Here are some things you might want to consider:

1. Many urologists do not have a thorough understanding of Peyronie's disease. You will probably need to get a referral to a male sexual health specialist urologist, such as Dr. Tom Lue in San Francisco or Dr. Laurence Levine in Chicago. These aren't the only two specialist, but many here on the forum have seen them. I went to Dr. Lue last year and it was a very positive experience.

2. Ask the urologist for a prescription for pentoxifylline. This is a medication that helps stop the inflammation that causes the formation of scar tissue and can help reduce the pain associated with the disease. Pentoxifylline has not been tested in large studies, but several prominent urologists have done limited studies on it. You can find two such studies here: https://www.peyroniesforum.net/index.php/topic,772.0.html  You should print these out and take them to the urologist.

I was on pentox for abut 8 months. It completely got rid of my pain although it did not reverse any physical changes. (My physical changes are relatively minor, fortunately).

3. This is not your fault AT ALL. But having said that, be cautious during sex until your husband has been to the urologist. Don't do anything that causes pain for your husband and use lots of lubrication. Many urologists will discourage girl on top due to the propensity for injury. It is important to note that getting erections is a GOOD THING and that your husband should not worry about having them. Good blood flow promotes healing. In fact, the urologist may prescribe low dose Cialis or viagra to maintain good erectile quality even if your husband does not have erectile dysfunction.

4. Have your husband come to the forum and learn all he can about the disease. Overcoming this disease will take the both of you working together. I know it's scary right now but things will improve as time passes by (it did for my wife and me). It's possible that your husband has a mild case that will result in nothing more than a few indentations and some unpleasant memories. Getting treatment early helps prevent inflammation and the formation of more scar tissue. It's this scar tissue that causes curvature and deformity (hourglassing) because the penile tissues do not expand properly. Proactive early treatment is very important.

I'm sorry you and your husband have to deal with this but this forum will provide ample information and support during this difficult time. Best of luck and feel free to ask questions any time.

-Skjaldborg

[Worriedwife]

Thank you so much for your response! I am feeling encouraged because after reading alot of these posts, I do feel that this is the "early stages" or perhaps a mild case??? It seems the indenting is up towards the head of the penis, and like I said, he doesn't have any problems with erections or orgasm... he just noticed things seemed "different". I don't think the pain is bad, or often even~ but if getting on pentox is beneficial to avoid a worsening of symptoms etc than that's what we will do. My husband was really freaked out at first, but seems to now be feeling ok and positive that everything will be ok. We have very open communication and I tend to be the "researcher" and very diligent to get the best infomation so I really feel confident we will get thru this just fine....  My only fear is if things get alot worse and prevent us from having sex.... I just can't imagine how hard that would be on our relationship. I just know how important connecting sexually is in a marriage (more importantly for the man, more emotionally for the woman). I am contacting a local urologist referred off of a "Peyronie's disease" website... hopefully the dr will be educated, if not, we may be taking a trip to CA. (We are in WA)
It is hard not to feel responsible, but honestly~ it's not like we have CRAZY WILD sex.. I mean, I'm adventurous and passionate, but I would imagine that many more people would be dealing with this in this day and age. Anyways, thanks again for your response. It's nice to be able to talk to someone about it... it's not like I can talk to a girlfriend about it.  

[LWillisjr]

I echo Skjald's responses. Many of us don't know when or what caused the trauma to trigger our Peyronies. The main thing is to just be aware and keep track of any further changes. Many men are not aware of this "disease" until we got it ourselves.

Yes woman on top (or cowgirl) was one of our favorite positions as well. But the specialists will caution against it as it makes men more susceptible to trauma. i.e. if you move one way and he does another and slips..........

Also, has the pain you mentioned always been there, or is it recent. If your husband has always had occasional pain then this is likely not associated with any recent Peyronies disease.

Also... the "hanging to the left"...  if this is while flacid then is completely normal. Any curvature related to Peyronies is identified or measure while erect. And even at that many men have a slight curve (since birth) which is also normal.

You are wise for raising your own awareness and monitoring any further progression.

Les

[MikeSmith]

I noticed the dents first, then it became curved and it started to worsen.  The dents were the first thing I noticed though.  He might be in an early phase where treatments like pentox & a VED (vacuum erection device) would help expand the plaque and stop the problem. A device called fastsize may also help.  Now might be the best time to intervene --  10% cases improve...40% stay the same, 40% get worse.  (roughly... I think my numbers are a little off but that's close).  

[Iseeyou]

Hello everyone,

Would somebody tell me please how do you recognize peyronies disease? I am reading this forum for a while and I still can't say if I have peyronies disease. My penis doen'st hurt, there is no swellings or something abnormal on it. It is bent to the left when its erected, if its soft it looks quiet normal I guess, straight. I can get erection easily, I do have quiet irregular ejaculations though, sometimes it takes "ages", sometimes as quick as in a minute. I am 20 now and I think my penis was straight when I was younger(until 15 I think, but I am not sure). Even if it's hard I can "make it straight again" with my fingers and if I hold it like that, it looks totally staright. I have noticed that the left side of the glans is slighty "higher" than the right one just near the frenulum and the frenulum it's self is directed to the right(it doesn't go straight down on the shaft). I am uncircumsized. I can easily pull my foreskin down, but when my penis is erected it doesn't go much further than the corona of the glans, like the frenulum was a little bit too short or like I had too much of the foreskin, but I think its quiet normal when you are uncircumsized. Is it possible to recognize, based on my "describtion" either I have peyronises disease or not? and if not is there anything to cure the curvature? like some exercises maybe or would the heat theraphy help with it as well? I read somewhere, even seen a video on youtube I guess(don't know anymore) that because of masturbation or actually "overdoing masturbation" it can cause shifting of the penis columns so it gets bent.

Thank you for taking the time to read my post. I am waiting for your reactions

best regards

[hb]

Hi

Based on your age, I would say it's congenital curvature. Since you aren't doing tri-mix injections or didn't mention any trauma, I don't think you have Peyronies. Especially since you can easily make it straight when you are hard.

My peyronies does allow me to make myself straight but not easily. I have to really push areas hard to get rid of the curve.

I'm sure others will weigh in with their perceptions....

[LWillisjr]

Here is an example of where it is difficult to assess based on what you have shard so far. Because we all have different perceptions of what it means to be "bent to the left when erected". I will offer the following three examples and I'm sure there are more.

1. One's erection could be straight along the shaft but the angle it leaves the body is to the left instead of straight. Imagine looking down from the top of your head towards your feet and you expect to see this |  but instead you see   \. This would likely not be Peyronies Disease in my opinion and would probably simply be congenital and the way you are made. As long as sex/intercourse offers no problems then don't worry about it.

2. One could have a curve to the left. Again looking down from above you would expect to see this  |  but instead you see  ).  This is referred too as a "banana" shape or curve. Again this is likely congenital meaning you were born/made this way. As long as your curve is not too severe and your partner doesn't complain, then don't worry about it.

3. Another curve to the left could be this type. Again you expect to see  | but instead you see >  (Sorry for the graphics but is the best I can do). This is referred too as an acute curve. The penis starts out straight at some angle from the body, and then has a "sudden" curve in some direction. And likely this occurred at at some point later in life. This would be symptomatic of Peyronies Disease.

[Iseeyou]

Thank you for your reactions, hb and Iwillisjr,

I don't have any trauma,definitely. Well, I have to use some pressure on the sides of my shaft to make it straight(when it's very hard),the required pressure drops down when it's "more softer". Iwillisjr, it looks like your second description. Kind of "banana" shape, indeed. I didn't hear girls complaining about it so far and I don't feel anything suspicious myself.

As everyone here, I would like to make it straight, of course. I have read a lot about the stretching exercises and there are different opinions on it, some people say it's good, some it's bad. A while ago, I even ordered an ebook from penis-curvature-correction.com On this website, there are some pictures(before and after),my curvature looks like on the picture. I tried the exercises and everything what's it this ebook sounds quiet "logic" but I had some questions and I have sent some emails to the "author", I didn't get any response, so I have doubts about it now. I have read about the heat therapy as well, with infrared lamp and vitamin d. It sounds interesting.

If I don't have Peyronies disease, would it help for my curvature, the heat therapy? and do you recommend the exercises?

wish you all a great day

best regards

[LWillisjr]

If you are more "banana shaped", and you have had this as long as you can remember, then you likely have a congenital curve. This means you were born with it. Everything I have read implies that only surgery can correct a congenital curve. And surgery would only be recommended in extreme cases.

If it doesn't cause you any problems, and it doesn't cause your partner any problems, then I wouldn't worry about. I would guess that few guys are "perfectly straight" anyway. Just assume it is normal for you.

[rovert]

Hello,

I am grateful for this site and all the support it offers.  I believe I am in the early stages of Peyronies disease.  I am 39 years old with a family and two young boys.  1 1/2 weeks ago I injured the glans of my penis.  The injury was a combination of events that ultimately led to a distinct feeling of a snap just under the urethra, sudden loss of erection and a feeling of something sliding away.  There was burning at that point as well as pin prick type pain around various points of the rim of my glans.  3 days after this event,  I formed an erection and suddenly felt what I can only describe as fascia or sheath disconnect from my glans and begin to slide downward.  Terrified of the situation I left it alone.  another 3 days passes and I decide to again check how an erection might form.  At this point, the erection could not form because of a tight constriction around the middle of my shaft.  The bottom half of my penis bulged and the top half remained flaccid,  obviously due to blood flow problems.  

The sight of this sent me into a panic attack which sent me to the ER.  I saw a urologist  about 2 days later,  the constriction was not really visible when flaccid so he could not really observe the condition,  but he diagnosed it with Peyronies and prescribed Potaba. He did say that it was unusual to form scar tissue that quickly.  I did not get the Potaba when I saw what the cost was.

That evening,  I began reading mostly from this site and became truly terrified.  After awhile,  I decided that this condition may not really exist for me but I know have anxiety about my erection.  I decided to test this by forming an erection. Low and behold,  the erection was perfect with no sign of any Peyronies.

Today,  3 days after the good erection and after most pain has subsided ,  I noticed that my penis in flacid state was much smaller than normal.  I decided to perform another erection test and found that the constriction has returned but not as severe.  In fact,  the constriction was only there when I was semi-erect.  After I got a full erection there was no sign of the hourglass "waisting".  Afterwards,  my flaccid penis now feels like it is wearing a turtle neck shirt that is 2 sizes too small.  It's not exactly painful but uncomfortable.  The process of creating an erection is more difficult.  I am inherently less interested in sex (turned my wife down last night as I want to give it more time).  I have general loss of sensation and the total erection size does seem slightly reduced.

My question is this;  it appears that the fascia disconnected and slid down,  almost like a foreskin yet under the skin and has begun to scar and tighten.  My question is this, what is this best thing to do on a daily basis for observation?  Should I continue attempting erections in case I can force the scar to expand while it is developing?  Should I start taking Potaba and vitamin e right away?  Should I use this as an excuse to tell my wife I need a penile massage every night (OK just joking)?  Or should  I just put it away and don't touch it for a couple of weeks?

Thanks,  I already feel like I have many brothers here,

Rovert  

[GS]

rovert,

You will probably get as many different answers as you get answers.  But, here goes...IMO, if you have any pain associated with an erection, don't continue with the erection.  If you have pain, start taking an anti-inflammatory right away and stay with it for at least a month.  Don't attempt sex for a month.

If you have no pain with an erection, you are probably OK with having erections and sex.

When I originally got Peyronies Disease, I had pain associated with my erections.  I saw my urologist a couple of days later and he told me not to do anything until the pain was gone.  It made sense to me at the time and it still does.  There is something wrong if an erection causes pain.  Good luck and keep us posted.

GS  

[LWillisjr]

rovert,

IMHO you need to get your butt to another urologist. You may have actually separated something or injured yourself in a way that is not related to Peyronies Disease at all. You need to get to a male functional specialist. Many urologist treat prostate, bladder, and urinary tract issues. You need to get to a male sexual specialist. Outside the U.S. I'm finding out these people are referred to as Andrologists. Don't wait..... get to real specialist.

[rovert]

Thank you for the ggod feedback guys.  I certainly can see that there are going to be alot of different perspectives on this and I welcome it.  I would rather have more information than less and it is not overwhelming to me.  I realize that if I do have this,  it is obvious that there is not some little pill to take to fix it all.

Update:

I had my hernia surgery yesterday,  so it will be awhile before I can complete any kind of intercourse test.  However,  I have noticed that since my penis has had some rest,  it's flaccid state is back to what I remember without any sign of constriction or shrinkage. I am on Hydrocodone and muscle relaxers for pain. I decided to bring up an erection to see what it would look like.  It was not as hard to make it erect as the last time...but certainly more difficult than in the past.  When it reached a semi-erection,  there was some "waisting" in the middle,  but not as extreme.  As soon as it reached full erection there was once more no sign of any problem in size or shape.  I let the erection back down immediately and about a minute later,  they constricting pressure pain returned around the bottom half of the shaft and my scrotum and perineum.

Its starting to look like (as some have suggested) that this may not be a sign of Peyronies,  but some still just general damage that needs more time to heal.  I believe I will take my wife's advice and stop obsessing over it and let it rest for a couple of weeks to really give it a chance to heal.

Thanks for the support

[Old Man]

rovert:

Good advice from your wife - follow it and let it rest before trying any sexual activity again.

Old Man

[leonard]

Honestly, I didn't know where to start here...I need some advice, terribly. It seems this was the best place to start.  I will try to make a long story short.  8 months ago, after years and years of being single, I'm met the love of my life, our feelings are mutual.  Our sex life in the beginning was crazy and fun, then one night 4 months into our relationship he told me he had been diagnosed with some disease that started with a "P", and that the doc said if he takes vitamin E, he would be fine.  He seemed so unconcerned about it, I didn't give it much thought.  Well about a month ago, our 5 nights a week of seeing each other, (not always sex..mind you) dwindled (where's the spell check on here?  ) to the weekends.  Although we are in contact all day long....We boat, we ride his bike, we have a blast, but suddenly I felt he wasn't attracked to me anymore, sexually.  Then a week ago that conversation came back to me, and I started thinking about some moments during sex, what an idiot I am!  So I started to google and found what he was talking about!  Here's my dilemma...he's a very PROUD man, I feel he is pulling back because he is concerned about making me happy.. I just want to be there for him, I love him very much. But I don't know how to approach him to let him know I don't care about this issue. I almost confronted him and asked him if he wasn't attracked to me anymore (before the light bulb went off!)  thank goodness I didn't do that.   Because he is so proud, I am lost as to how to bring this up, that I am here for him, no matter what!  Sorry if this seems so stupid...I just want to support my man and can't lose him...any suggestions?  Thank you!  

[GS]

When I first got Peyronies, my fiancee didn't know what to think about it and I was scared to death.  After doing a little research on the internet, it was pretty obvious what I had.  My urologist suggested vitamin E and not having anymore sex until the pain was gone.

I was open with her from the beginning and we have continued our relationship in spite of Peyronies Disease.  It can be done and we are in our third year of living with it.

I'm not saying it is easy and it will take effort from both of you to make it work.  Feel free to send me a private message if you would like to discuss it in detail.

GS

[crashbandit]

Hi everyone,

I've had a bit of sensitivity and an achy feeling along the left side of my penis shaft, as well at the base of the left side for a long time now. It never gets to painful, just achy, expecially if i start poking at it. I'm just concerned it could get worse with time. There is no lumps that i can feel and good hard erections still. A slight curve towards the achy side but the really strange thing is, after I ejaculate and lose the erection, my flaccid penis really curves towards the painful side and like a twist. What's up with this?

Does this sound like Peyronies Disease? Could it be something else like a strain and not scarring?

Thanks

[newguy]

Can you tell us know what you mean by a long time? (weeks/months/years?). Has the slight curve towards the achy side always been there, or is it something more recent? I would say that any change, if only an ache, requires further investigation by a urologist. It may be that you'll get "wait and see" advice, since symptoms are quite limited at this stage. If you see someone with good knowledge in the field though, hopefully they will spend more time on the issue and potentially offer a treatment plan to be on the safe side.