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Author Topic: Shockwave Therapy in Tijuana - Dr Allejandro Lira - Pacific Sexual health  (Read 3164 times)

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Haven't checked in on these forums in a while but I just wanted to let you guys know about the shockwave treatment. I wanted to be in Dr Goldsteins (SDSM's) clinical trial but I could not comply with the medications. Instead I manned up and went into TJ. I have gotten 9 shockwave treatments so far. They use LSWT and ESWT (linear and focalized) and it has been gradually improving my peyronies. I had mild peyroneis mostly at the base. I have venous leakage, corporal fibrosis, and really just fibrosis everywhere, tunica and cavernosa.

This treatment is working better than everything else even though it's designed for Erectile Dysfunction and not really peyronies, but I am making those gains! My penis is getting way thicker again as the fibrosis is being chizzled away. The FDA f'~c<+d me with Propecia and now Mexico is picking up the pieces of my penis and putting them back together. Viva la Revelucion mis amigos!

Look up Dr Allejandro Lira Urologist - Pacific Sexual Health - Hospital Angeles. Just thought I owed it to you guys to spread this word. I wish you all the best. I never thought a few clicks/taps to my penis could get my old penis back. It's easy to forget how life used to be, it's funny..
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Congratulations guy!
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Excellent! Very happy for you!

How much do the shockwaves cost in Mexico? I paid $500 for mine (6 sessions), but got a huge discount because I'm a doc myself. The doc usually charges more.
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I also recommend an auto CPAP device --> increases REM sleep --> increased nocturnal erection.

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Christopher, was it to treat the peyroines and if so was it helpful?  Thanks!
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No.

It was for my venous leak. Yes - I got some improvements out of it. I would like to do it again in a year or so.
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I also recommend an auto CPAP device --> increases REM sleep --> increased nocturnal erection.

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Re: Shockwave Therapy in Tijuana - Dr Allejandro Lira - Pacific Sexual health
« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2019, 11:57:22 PM »

Cost is 2k for 4 treatments by this doctor in Mexico
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Re: Shockwave Therapy in Tijuana - Dr Allejandro Lira - Pacific Sexual health
« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2019, 02:45:51 AM »

doesn't shockwave *cause* peyronie's???
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Re: Shockwave Therapy in Tijuana - Dr Allejandro Lira - Pacific Sexual health
« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2019, 05:00:00 PM »

Just to be clear, there seems to be no evidence of shockwave curing peyronies but perhaps some occasional improvement w some individuals for Erectile Dysfunction.
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Re: Shockwave Therapy in Tijuana - Dr Allejandro Lira - Pacific Sexual health
« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2019, 02:13:31 AM »

There's lots of evidence for shockwave improving erectile function https://www.trtllc.com/urology.html I wish the original poster would reply about his visit to see the Dr. in Tijuana
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Re: Shockwave Therapy in Tijuana - Dr Allejandro Lira - Pacific Sexual health
« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2019, 05:50:59 PM »

Shockwaves will not work for Peyronies Disease.
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Re: Shockwave Therapy in Tijuana - Dr Allejandro Lira - Pacific Sexual health
« Reply #10 on: September 28, 2019, 06:32:43 AM »

Do you see the op above he said it's gradually improving his peyronies... you are stating exact opposite of his firsthand experience
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Re: Shockwave Therapy in Tijuana - Dr Allejandro Lira - Pacific Sexual health
« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2019, 07:28:48 AM »

Christopher1 statement is based on the fact that on our forum very few, if any, benefited from shock wave therapy.
If shock wave therapy was so successful it was a main stream therapy by now.

But I must state that shock wave therapy is very beneficiary for the provider :)

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Re: Shockwave Therapy in Tijuana - Dr Allejandro Lira - Pacific Sexual health
« Reply #12 on: October 14, 2019, 07:29:44 PM »

James is right.

There is some weak evidence that shockwave therapy can help for Erectile Dysfunction. Probably better if you get a Jeanie Rub variable speed massager to do this every other day. I have a thread on it. This will also cost much less.

Without a doubt, however, shockwaves will NOT work for Peyronies Disease. Any physician telling you this is probably full of crap. If they are selling you on this, ask for studies showing results.
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Re: Shockwave Therapy in Tijuana - Dr Allejandro Lira - Pacific Sexual health
« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2019, 11:56:37 PM »

dr. Karpman in Mountain View is a proponent of shockwaves... makes me wonder
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Re: Shockwave Therapy in Tijuana - Dr Allejandro Lira - Pacific Sexual health
« Reply #14 on: October 16, 2019, 05:18:08 AM »

James is right.

There is some weak evidence that shockwave therapy can help for Erectile Dysfunction. Probably better if you get a Jeanie Rub variable speed massager to do this every other day. I have a thread on it. This will also cost much less.

Without a doubt, however, shockwaves will NOT work for Peyronies Disease. Any physician telling you this is probably full of crap. If they are selling you on this, ask for studies showing results.

That Jeanie Rub machine is huge and looks like it could rip apart damaged and weak tissue and make things worse.  It looks like taking an electric sandpaper tool to your weenie...
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Re: Shockwave Therapy in Tijuana - Dr Allejandro Lira - Pacific Sexual health
« Reply #15 on: October 17, 2019, 07:59:56 PM »

Really pey Ron, did he tell you that directly?
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« Reply #16 on: November 11, 2019, 05:37:38 AM »

Really pey Ron, did he tell you that directly?

Dr. Goldstein is as well.  Hopefully not just for the $$$
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« Reply #17 on: November 11, 2019, 05:40:07 AM »

Haven't checked in on these forums in a while but I just wanted to let you guys know about the shockwave treatment. I wanted to be in Dr Goldsteins (SDSM's) clinical trial but I could not comply with the medications. Instead I manned up and went into TJ. I have gotten 9 shockwave treatments so far. They use LSWT and ESWT (linear and focalized) and it has been gradually improving my peyronies. I had mild peyroneis mostly at the base. I have venous leakage, corporal fibrosis, and really just fibrosis everywhere, tunica and cavernosa.

This treatment is working better than everything else even though it's designed for Erectile Dysfunction and not really peyronies, but I am making those gains! My penis is getting way thicker again as the fibrosis is being chizzled away. The FDA f'~c<+d me with Propecia and now Mexico is picking up the pieces of my penis and putting them back together. Viva la Revelucion mis amigos!

Look up Dr Allejandro Lira Urologist - Pacific Sexual Health - Hospital Angeles. Just thought I owed it to you guys to spread this word. I wish you all the best. I never thought a few clicks/taps to my penis could get my old penis back. It's easy to forget how life used to be, it's funny..
I am told that Dr. Lira uses 2 different machines the Renova and the Zimmer.  Which one did you use?  Also how many treatments before you started seeing results like penis getting thicker and injuries healing?  Thanks
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« Reply #18 on: November 11, 2019, 05:42:02 AM »

Christopher1 statement is based on the fact that on our forum very few, if any, benefited from shock wave therapy.
If shock wave therapy was so successful it was a main stream therapy by now.

But I must state that shock wave therapy is very beneficiary for the provider :)

James
It is mainstream in Latin and European countries.
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« Reply #19 on: November 11, 2019, 05:43:59 PM »

Clarification from Dr Karpman, he recommends mono therapy shockwave only for Erectile Dysfunction.  Now, if someone wishes to avoid plication or excision/grafting he has a triple medical therapy he is recommending:  Xiaflex + Restorex + shockwave.  Does not recommend shockwave alone for peyronies.
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