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Growth Hormone / Collagen?
« on: June 29, 2017, 05:21:11 PM »

I was wondering about your opinion on this. Could HGH help Peyronie's in the acute, inflammatory state? Or would it be detrimental? It increases collagen synthesis.

I am going to start using TB-500 tomorrow along with Ostarine and BCP 157 next week as well. Now have thoughts of adding HGH on top of it too. Your advice would be appreciated.
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Re: Growth Hormone / Collagen?
« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2017, 05:24:16 AM »

Jay, I would only question your logic on starting all these at the same time, how will you know what made any improvement?, I would suggest trying each solely for a defined time period, that way you can be sure what's working and what isn't.  :)
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Re: Growth Hormone / Collagen?
« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2017, 10:02:26 AM »



I would rather be cured than to know which specific thing cured me. I am getting worse on a daily basis.
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« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2017, 04:25:00 PM »

Since this is all experimental Paola's advice is sound.   You may be chasing your tail if you start to get some negative side effects and you cant tell where they are coming from.  Also you may experience interactions between the drugs and again you cant tell what is going on.   It is a gamble.  How much risk are you will to take and how much time are you prepared to waste if you need to start over?  It is a judgement call based on risk balancing.
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Re: Growth Hormone / Collagen?
« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2017, 09:28:53 AM »

@JayGould: where do you source TB-500, Ostarine and BCP 157?
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« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2017, 06:47:12 PM »

@JayGould: where do you source TB-500, Ostarine and BCP 157?

Ostarine from Sarms1.com. The other two does not have any reliable vendors however. You're probably getting Chinese crap unfortunately.
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« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2017, 11:26:35 PM »

Hypothetically could be beneficial - yes.

hGH tends to repair tissues in the body.
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Re: Growth Hormone / Collagen?
« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2019, 01:17:57 AM »

Any update on this?

Could no response mean he recovered and didn't have the need to post here anymore?

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Re: Growth Hormone / Collagen?
« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2019, 09:20:08 AM »

I think the dose needed to (re)grow your penis would be a dose that's high enough to grow other body parts as well (intestines, hands, feet, jaw) it happens to some people, but it's not something you want happening. Unless you're still in puberty or have a true deficiency in hgh I wouldn't expect much from a proper HGH dose. The reason I think so is because I used to scroll all over bodybuilder forums looking for anyone reporting a positive reaction on their penis and I found no results only in some of them who used extreme doses of hgh causing deformities (in hands, face, feet or guts) as well. Not something to mess with unless a doctor perscribes it to you for whatever reason.
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Symptoms: sharp pains, numbness, change in shape/size, hourglassing and discolaration from jelqing/VED usage as a teen. Diagnosed with a venous leak and possible scarring.
Treatments tried: cialis, pentox and VED didnt help

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Re: Growth Hormone / Collagen?
« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2019, 07:18:16 AM »

Popopo - definitely will not make your penis bigger but could have a positive effect on healing - this is usually why body builders use it (you heal quicker and your body creates new cells so you can gain more muscle).  Please do correct me if i'm wrong though.
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Mild erect curvature but major Loss of girth, dents and significant semi-erect curve
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Re-started VED, also using Restorex

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Re: Growth Hormone / Collagen?
« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2019, 08:10:08 AM »

You're right, but I doubt peyronies is a lack of healing so to speak. It just heals and leaves scar tissue. Hgh won't heal scars. I could be wrong, but I personally wouldn't mess with HGH unless there is any evidence that it can help peyronies disease and as far as I'm concerned it's not there.
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Date of onset: 17
Symptoms: sharp pains, numbness, change in shape/size, hourglassing and discolaration from jelqing/VED usage as a teen. Diagnosed with a venous leak and possible scarring.
Treatments tried: cialis, pentox and VED didnt help

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Re: Growth Hormone / Collagen?
« Reply #11 on: February 27, 2019, 01:36:33 AM »

It is a risk... I think I did read a study that stated BPC could reduce scar tissue. I'll  try and find it.
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Got better but then got worse
Mild erect curvature but major Loss of girth, dents and significant semi-erect curve
Moderate Erectile Dysfunction
Re-started VED, also using Restorex

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Re: Growth Hormone / Collagen?
« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2020, 11:13:47 AM »

I second popopoo in his saying about the heavy dosage needed to re-grow penis tissue, but it is actually proven to do exactly that. Remember, the hormone is natural and all humans have it; however, if you actually got good results from HGH you would probably end up with side effects, UNLESS you’re young and still is in possession of a naturally high HGH-level in your body.
This would allow only a small-medium dosage to make a significant difference in the body, as well as your penis.
This brings me to the final stand:
- I am very young myself, and that’s why I will use myself as guinea-pig for this thing. As soon as I can get my hands on it, (economy’s bad atm) I will most definitely use HGH for an extended period of time, I will also document the whole process here on the forum.
Stay tuned.
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30 degree dorsal curve, immobility and heavy loss of girth.
My body seems to get very inflamed when I masturbate too often or eat unhealthy.
Using antioxidants, Pentox and hirudoid cream, as well as manual traction, heat and Cialis.

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Re: Growth Hormone / Collagen?
« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2020, 12:16:08 PM »

I'm very curious what your experience will be and hope it will have a positive impact. Stay safe and let us know. I wouldn't want to take the risk, but I respect and understand your choice to give it a shot. It would be good to do regular check ups with your doctor and tell him/her what you're doing and I'm sure you'll be safe. I would also advice you to workout when you're on the HGH. You might not notice an effect on your penis, but I'm sure you'll notice a positive effect on muscle growth and strenght if you combine it  with a proper workout. A healthy lifestyle will probably also lower the chance of side effects/negative effects, but if you keep the dose low I don't see why you would develop side effects at all.
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Symptoms: sharp pains, numbness, change in shape/size, hourglassing and discolaration from jelqing/VED usage as a teen. Diagnosed with a venous leak and possible scarring.
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« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2020, 06:45:15 AM »

Absolutely. The only thing I can’t wrap my head around is how the scar tissue would react if the healthy penile tissue started to grow more rapidly (cause of the HGH); would the scar tissue break and let healthy tissue take its place? Hard to really imagine since I cannot find any studies describing the process. Also, how would “increased collagen” make Peyronie’s worse? Or is it just a small risk? Risks are something you’re gonna have to take if you wanna get anywhere with anything.
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30 degree dorsal curve, immobility and heavy loss of girth.
My body seems to get very inflamed when I masturbate too often or eat unhealthy.
Using antioxidants, Pentox and hirudoid cream, as well as manual traction, heat and Cialis.

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Re: Growth Hormone / Collagen?
« Reply #15 on: January 27, 2020, 01:44:48 PM »

How exactly does HGH cause increased collagen? I have a hard plaque/collagen build up near the glans on the dorsal side; I’ve been planning on using HGH as well because of its many benefits in muscle & tissue repair, but I certainly don’t want it to get worse because of the growth hormone...
anyone who’s got more information on it?
I also experience thinning and I believe HGH could aid in this... but the hard plaque is more of a question mark for me.
Anyone who could fill me in here?
- Desmond
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Re: Growth Hormone / Collagen?
« Reply #16 on: February 01, 2020, 11:02:47 PM »

I would love to know the answer to these too.... HGH also increases IGF1 - i've been told that bad for peyronies....

I was considering going on a course of IGF1 LR3 for wound healing however, all the advice I read advised against it.

Any information would be great.
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Peyronies for 4 years now
Got better but then got worse
Mild erect curvature but major Loss of girth, dents and significant semi-erect curve
Moderate Erectile Dysfunction
Re-started VED, also using Restorex

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Re: Growth Hormone / Collagen?
« Reply #17 on: February 08, 2020, 09:43:03 AM »

You miss 100% of the shots you don’t take, fellas. That’s enough for me to try it.
After constant application of Magnesium Oil for nearly 2 weeks now, my scar is already lessening.
Pain is still current, however.
HGH treatment is more powerful single handily than nearly all oral supplements combined.
You’ve been told it’s bad? How long are you gonna sit around and wait? I don’t understand.
I have thinning and a slight upwards curve like I’ve mentioned several times before, and I only think HGH would aid in thinning. It wouldn’t make any hard plaque’s disappear lol; but all of you who say HGH would cause worsening, explain, please.
And don’t only use scientific words and “increased collagen” bla bla bla
If a man with Peyronie’s used HGH, how exactly would his penis become worse? Would the plaque get bigger? Would his dick fall of his body? Please explain how a natural growth hormone would f*ck up a Peyronie’s case.
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30 degree dorsal curve, immobility and heavy loss of girth.
My body seems to get very inflamed when I masturbate too often or eat unhealthy.
Using antioxidants, Pentox and hirudoid cream, as well as manual traction, heat and Cialis.

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« Reply #18 on: February 08, 2020, 04:25:43 PM »

Well it could go both ways. The formation of scar tissue is a way your body "heals" so if it speeds up healing it could speed up the formation of scar tissue, I guess. But then again, it could also heal properly and faster because of the HGH. I personally think you'll gain muscle size, some energy and maybe some more positive effects from the HGH, but I wouldn't bet on it curing peyronies. I hope it does, but I think if it cured peyronies and grows your penis everybody would be on HGH by now. I'm curious about the results, though, but be safe and don't up the dose if it turns out it doesn't have the desired effect. I don't see harm in trying unless you go high dose.
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Symptoms: sharp pains, numbness, change in shape/size, hourglassing and discolaration from jelqing/VED usage as a teen. Diagnosed with a venous leak and possible scarring.
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Re: Growth Hormone / Collagen?
« Reply #19 on: February 18, 2020, 04:47:35 AM »

Im curious as well. I also read about IGF1 (this is what is released with HGH) is bad for peyronies ??

Can anyone explain more?
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