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Injections
« on: June 06, 2017, 02:41:38 AM »

Hello i am new with a strange case of peyronie or fibrosis, which gave me Erectile Dysfunction (venous leak)
I know injections is a big no-no due to the fibrosis that they could induce, but I tried with them, and sometimes my penis get an erection with rigid for sex and another times only a half erection without rigid, only got tumescence, so why is the reason of this? I havent plaque but I think i have something like hardflaccid or difuse fibrosis, so is it possible that i need more blood flow to the normal in order my erection stretches until it reaches stiffness?
My opinion is that I need more potent blood flow in order to overcome the fibrosis which prevents me from getting rigid

What do u think about this?
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Re: Injections
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2017, 04:53:51 AM »

You have diagnosed by a Peyronies specialist?
If yes, what is the treatment he proposed?

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Age 71, Peyronies from Jan 2009 following penis fracture during sex. Severe Erectile Dysfunction.
Lost 2" length and a lot of girth. Late start, still VED, Cialis & Pentox helped. Prostate surgery 2014.
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Re: Injections
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2017, 05:54:52 AM »

Yes james, his treatment was "dont do anything" only he gave me pills which dont work and now I tried injections and they work sometimes and many times dont work, and also I know they can be counterproductive, so I think my end is near, is not it so?
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Re: Injections
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2017, 11:41:35 AM »

Injecting frequently will probably increase the chance of scarring. In the long run it's not a good option and you're probably better off takeing the pills. Did he give you pentox and cialis? I think those are probably your best shot. Besides that you couls trt stretching and VED, but don't expect too much cause if you do you'll probably overpump and hurt yourself even more. I know this is killing you right now, but hang in there. I myself gave up on above mentioned treatments because it wasnt all that effective for me and it's far from a cure. I do believe however that a true cure could be like 5 or 10 years from now. That's a long time, but why the [email protected]< not? I feel like the end is near too very very often, but then I will not overcome this problem. The thought of killing myself over this enrages me so much that I keep going. Yes I'm dysfunctional, I'm a pain in the ass and a bitter person, my closest pal is my gaming PC, guitar and a bag of weed, but so what? I'm still here and maybe right now is hell, but it will make the day I'll find a cure even better. Giving up is not an option even if it means you'll have to accept this crap right now, just focus on the future. I hope you'll find a way man.
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Age: 25
Date of onset: 17
Symptoms: sharp pains, numbness, change in shape/size, hourglassing and discolaration from jelqing/VED usage as a teen. Diagnosed with a venous leak and possible scarring.
Treatments tried: cialis, pentox and VED didnt help

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Re: Injections
« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2017, 10:51:27 PM »

Hey popppo How old are you with this? How do you cope it?
The F^@$!ng fibrosis does that my erection doesnt become rigid, and pills dont work and injectioons sometimes but a few times really
I am tired and scared about this. My Erectile Dysfunction is the worst How can I deal with it? I am young and doctors havent idea about this, they only propuse the implant or they give you lessons of crap and love and more crap they do not believe neither they. Lately when a doctor begins to give a lesson about the life women and love I say him stop with you BS all that is lie and you know it and I left his office

They are so crappy  most of the urologist, they do not know anything and they are about to give you life lessons that they know is a lie and that I have not asked for it. I know how life is, do not tell me stories F^@$!ng doctor [email protected]< and get to work on a solution to these problems that [email protected]< people life
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« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2017, 08:00:28 AM »

I totally hear you and I'm not gonna lie, this is a dealbreaker to most wome  obviously and you seem to be like me and think the same way. I personally try to focus on other things in life. It's frustrating and hard, but I'm at a point where it frustrates ne that I don't get what I want, but on the other hand I don't chase women so I won't be hurt either. I chose the path of keeping this secret except for some people I can really really trust. I also try to keep in mind that the cure is closer then ever and right now I seek things that make me feel good about myself that are all non-related to sex. I picked up playing guitar again for example. 2 years ago I sold it just so I could buy weed, but now even though ny mood is very dark the is this tiny sparkle of light because of this new acrivity to do. I knoe it seems like a tiny step, but that is the way to go if you want to keep it together now so we can enjoy a normal sex life again one day. I try to focus on work too so I can make sure that even though the sex/love part of my life is ruined, I will be able to take care of myself anyway. I'm 22 years old noe so it's crucial thst I don't lose myself now because then I might be a bum for te rest of my life even if I can have the greatest penis of all. And the best advice for everything in life I can give you is don't be afraid to fail... if you can not, you can not. I live in Holland so I don't knoe ehat your options are, but right now I'm getting a little bit o extra  to compensate for the hours I cannot work because I'm so depressed. It's not ideal and might impact the way a boss see's me, but I honestly don't care. I do my best and they have to understand, if not I will flat out tell them my problem and most people with half a brain can understand I don't wanna work shifts like a hardcore man, while I cannot even be a man anymore in my private life. I'm not saying I'm not suicidal, but to actually do it.. I've been very close and there is not only feae when approaching that point but also so much rage.  I just can't do it.. not because I'm a p~$$%, but simply because I cannot go out like this. Peyronie's is not gonna kill me. A lot of diseases kill, peyronies does not. It might be a heavy heavy burddn on my mind, but I just cannot give up and let my family behind for example or even just my cat. The thought that I will kill myself because society makes me feel inadequate and only because of "girl problems" (cause that's basivally what it leads to) makes me sick.. I hated myself for years and this problem makes it worse, but no way am I gonna murder the rest of my body too ONLY because this part doesn't work, you know what I mean? I totally get your frustration and anger. Use it to move forward, you can yell, get mad, feel psychotic sometimes even... but DO NOT give up. I also think it's good thst you got prpperly diagnosed. Just tell your doctor that right now he doesn't have a satisfying treatment for your problem and that you do not wanna go that way and you'll rather wait for a better cure. In the meantime I would keep taking pentox and cialis because they probably wont do any harm and might help you. I'd stay away from the injections.. I think the effext is probably similar to what I try to achieve trough masterbation.. sometimes I try to get SO hard thst it almost "pushes" the scar tissue out untik it's almost in my old size/shape, but afterwards it won't stay and gives me even more pain and deformity so don't think forcing blood in will help. I hope you read this all and I've been clear. I can sometimes be hard to follow  depending on my mood ;)
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Age: 25
Date of onset: 17
Symptoms: sharp pains, numbness, change in shape/size, hourglassing and discolaration from jelqing/VED usage as a teen. Diagnosed with a venous leak and possible scarring.
Treatments tried: cialis, pentox and VED didnt help

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Re: Injections
« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2017, 08:39:51 AM »

Hey popop  thank you for writting me, I am from south of europe, not antartic obviously hah, i should cry better .I no longer go out for women either, because I will just end up hurting myself even though they say they do not care, I just do not feel good being with a woman like that, it breaks my soul. This problems is destroying my mind, the only way I have to forget him is to connect to forums like this, otherwise this will consume my mind and end up doing something stupid or maybe smart (maybe suicide) who knows?
 It's hard for me to go out and talk to people, although it's getting worse, it's not just talking, it's hard for me to see people, I mean when I see a pretty girl on the street makes me die inside and like a girl she speak with me I will have a deep depression, (Because I know that there are girls who talk to me because they like me and if I was not like I would go with them, but not like that, do not get me wrong I'm not a brad pitt but I'm not ugly either, I used to like girls) I prefer to be totally isolated and talk in places like this, you know? But what I really hate are those f'^+'ing doctors who give you lessons of superiority and life, f'^+'ing stupid doctor look for a cure and do not tell me what life or love means, f'^+'ing clown. As I end up committing suicide to more than one I take him with me .. By the way I am 24 years old, you look like a very strong guy if you have been able to endure this, as you I have said this only to two people, and I think it would be better not have said it, it makes me feel deeply ashamed that someone knows it, besides you work, where do you get the strength and the courage? It seems to me that you have to be very strong to continue with your life working etc having something like this. You are really strong bro.
I always have the idea of ​​suicide hanging around my head, how to do it, I'll buy a gun, I'll shoot myself in the head, I'll throw myself from the tallest building, I'll shoot myself on the edge of the building and fall, I know they are not healthy thoughts, but I can not avoid them, I just forget them in places like these.
This crap makes me feel like a dead person in life, sometimes I feel like suicide would be a blessing, and I hope there is nothing after death, because I alone I do not want to exist anymore, I just want peace.
 I will try to endure until 30 years or so and there I will have to decide what to do with myself, I do not want to live all my life like this, it's so hard
By the way, thank you very much for talking to me, thank you. Can I send you a PM if I need to speak at any time? If not, nothing happens, it's just that having support and someone in my age who knows what this is is better than being alone and talking with doctors
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Re: Injections
« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2017, 09:38:39 AM »

i had mine from 17ish. pritti much ceased contact with women and drank heavily till about 25ish. then went and got surgery. im now 30 and still dealing with this crap... alcohol has helped me alot. call it what ya will but ot numbs ur mind mate. people in society dont anticipate this cruel crap and theres no way uroz undsrstand ot unless they have it!! i feel the same way with them cunts

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Many andrologists deserve bad things happen to them, most of them are the worst professionals that can be known. First you can find an andrologist who only sees that you are young, and he will tell you is psychological, even if you tell him that a train runs your dick, he will say is psychological (these are the most common), then there are those who will not want to do tests and they only give you pills, and then there are the andrologists who think they are morally superior to you and give you lessons on how you should live life and be with women but why would wnat with a woman if i cant F^@% with her?   While they F^@% their wife they tell us this ..
In conclusion andrologists are the biggest crap of society, you, me and my subnormal neighbor in front of us could be andrologist, we would only have to tell people to come to our office, your problem is psychological, or take some pills or take some Injections or take an implant
The implant really is the only thing that they have to know how to do well and if you look for the forums you will can see that only three or four doctors in the world know how to do them well
f'^+'ing doctors f'^+'ing F^@% THEM! (Not all are bad but the vast majority)

BTW WHY DID YOUR SURGERY FAIL? WHAT SURGERY DID YOU GET?
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