CBD (cannabidiol) extract oil/wax

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nastyone

I haven't posted on this forum in a number of years, but have recently returned for not so good reasons..anyway..I just thought I'd share this as a way of giving something back to everyone here that has given out so much support, moral and otherwise. I'll let each person do their own research, as any chemical or drug affects one person different to the next. I've recently started trying CBD oil in its various forms, from vaping it to eating edible candies and gummies. I've noticed a huge decrease in back pain, and it is supposedly supposed to contain strong anti-inflammatory properties. Like I said, I haven't done all that much research myself other than some basic searches. But it is legal in all 50 states and if it can't help you with pain or inflammation, maybe it can help relieve some anxiety. It is quite pricey as it's fairly new to the market, but if it helps your health or quality of life at all I say it's worth it. I know how desperate this "disease" can make you looking for answers, and how our biggest obstacle is psychological. Hoping this post helps someone out along the way.
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pizzaman

With regard to Peyronie's, cannabis can be somewhat negative due to vasoconstriction. The vasoconstriction may be a property of THC moreso than CBD though.
I just know that if I smoke cannabis, I tend to get "shrinkage" and my sexual functioning is basically nonexistent.

james1947

First I am 100% with Pizzaman!!!
Second, even if:
Quote...it is legal in all 50 states...
It not means it is a good thing. It helps to relieve anxiety while you are under the influence of the drug and makes the anxiety worst afterwards.
Not talking about the danger of driving, operating mechanical/electrical/pneumatical tools and so on
Also inability to concentrate, very important in many jobs.
Try working on a software while you are under influence
Just the opinion of an old man that read a lot

James
Age 71, Peyronies from Jan 2009 following penis fracture during sex. Severe ED.
Lost 2" length and a lot of girth. Late start, still VED, Cialis & Pentox helped. Prostate surgery 2014.
Got amazing support on the forum

nastyone

And that's the main issue, is education. Of course it's not going to be for everybody. But some may get some relief. Not many people even know the difference between thc and cbd. And don't care to learn because of the stigma associated with it. It has zero psychoactive effects, meaning it doesn't get you high. What it does, atleast for me, is take the edge of my anxiety when it gets too intense. And I agree, its not good to rely on any drug, but at the same time I'd rather consume this than pop another pill such as valium or xanax. I'm not trying to persuade anyone one way or another, just tossing out some information along with my ideas.
And if your worried about the negative effects from smoking/vaping, there are edibles as well. I think people should just maintain an open mind and judge for themselves what they think may be beneficial for them through their own research.

WhatNext81

Cbd oil is known for it's anti-inflammatory qualities. I'd try it if it wasn't so expensive. As far as a stress reliever, everything we put in our bodies or what we do has an effect on brain receptors. Alcohol, exercise, painting, whatever, can be outlets for stress. We don't rely on them all of the time. We put all of these other supplemts in our bodies and crappy foods. It's sad that cbd Oil and it's relation to marijuana have given it a bad name. From what studies I've read, I understand that the oil builds up in your system and can help arthritis and a lot of other things over time. I was in a store with a friend who has arthritis and they tried some of the lotion. They thought it wouldn't do anything but after a little bit of time they noticed their wrist felt better. I don't know. Kind of interesting. It's sad that the pharmaceutical industry is so afraid of marijuana because they simply haven't found a way to patent it and regulate it on a federal level and it obviously would hurt the industry among many others. Does anyone remember when scientists were paid to say sugar isn't bad( hello diabetes and inflammation) and fats were horrible. There are plenty of healthy fats. Peyronie's is very interesting, really, really crappy and frustrating.  
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pey ron

i would stay away from THC. The endocannabinoid receptor 1 is extremely pro-fibrotic. The endocannabinoid receptor 2 is strongly anti-fibrotic.

You want to be on a CB1 blocker and on a CB2 agonist.
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IcebergLlama

Quote from: pey ron on August 29, 2017, 11:20:52 PM
i would stay away from THC. The endocannabinoid receptor 1 is extremely pro-fibrotic.

Good to know. Source?

My only sexual outlet for years was masturbation while high (Just happened to be high, didn't smoke just to wack lol). I wouldn't take the time to get fully hard either, mainly just to get it over and done with. I quit smoking weed 6 months ago but was a stoner for 7 years with the last 3 years being daily. In that time I think I blew out my dopamine receptors, f'ed up my REM sleep (no reliable nighttime erections for some years, dreams just now coming back), and really messed up myself by not having the patience to get fully hard while masturbating.

I started using this yesterday and am applying it to my taint (targeting cavernous nerve), and shaft where I am experiencing hourglassing.

https://www.amazon.com/Hemp-Pain-Relief-Cream-1500/dp/B07NJB2WX6/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2RGVJ2OEQR4U0&keywords=hemp+60000&qid=1577935352&sprefix=sponge%2Caps%2C174&sr=8-1

It's only $30 for a 2 oz jar. 2 oz may not seem like a lot but I only need a dab for those two spots, so I see it lasting about 2 months for me. I don't see a lot on here about CBD but am interested in application both orally and directly for both ED and Peyronies. For only $30, it's worth a try.
28. ED with hourglass.

After no nighttime/morning erections for years, the treatments in my post brought back NTE's after 6 weeks.

Not cured by any means. One day at a time.*

https://www.peyroniesforum.net/index.php/topic,12972.0.html

betooz7

Quote from: TonySa on January 01, 2020, 07:53:19 PM
Interesting articles.

Thank's i'm happy for your answer !
I'm going to try to get some or more made-up rso is not a problem for me. The problem is the price. When I can make this experience I will repeat it on this forum. But it remains to be seen if oil can penetrate to the plate just with a local massage, if you have any information tell us.



Quote from: IcebergLlama on January 01, 2020, 10:41:01 PM


Good to know. Source?

My only sexual outlet for years was masturbation while high (Just happened to be high, didn't smoke just to wack lol). I wouldn't take the time to get fully hard either, mainly just to get it over and done with. I quit smoking weed 6 months ago but was a stoner for 7 years with the last 3 years being daily. In that time I think I blew out my dopamine receptors, f'Erectile Dysfunction up my REM sleep (no reliable nighttime erections for some years, dreams just now coming back), and really messed up myself by not having the patience to get fully hard while masturbating.

I started using this yesterday and am applying it to my taint (targeting cavernous nerve), and shaft where I am experiencing hourglassing.

https://www.amazon.com/Hemp-Pain-Relief-Cream-1500/dp/B07NJB2WX6/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2RGVJ2OEQR4U0&keywords=hemp+60000&qid=1577935352&sprefix=sponge%2Caps%2C174&sr=8-1

It's only $30 for a 2 oz jar. 2 oz may not seem like a lot but I only need a dab for those two spots, so I see it lasting about 2 months for me. I don't see a lot on here about CBD but am interested in application both orally and directly for both Erectile Dysfunction and Peyronies. For only $30, it's worth a try.


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melting

There's a lot out there about CBD mixed with DMSO.(obviously research it cause DMSO can be tricky)
 
The molecular weight of CBD is around 314g/mol which makes it small enough for transdermal delivery right to the spot. If you just rub it in without a delivery agent it will probably not go beyond the first dermal layers.

As I understand pure CBD oil can be used which has no THC in it and is basically non psychoactive.
Of course we in crappy  socialist europe don't have this option :( America is great.
Daily Transdermals and Traction/VED solved my Peyronies Disease https://www.peyroniesforum.net/index.php/topic,12587.0.html (DMSO+X)

Irishpeyroniecure

Cbd oil taken orally is especially good for the healing of this problem when combined with marijuana

I've used cbd creams with magnesium and they helped somewhat too - coconut oil was probably as effective

Haven't tried DMSO and will not be as I am cured  
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Quote from: melting on January 03, 2020, 07:52:30 PM
There's a lot out there about CBD mixed with DMSO.(obviously research it cause DMSO can be tricky)
 
The molecular weight of CBD is around 314g/mol which makes it small enough for transdermal delivery right to the spot. If you just rub it in without a delivery agent it will probably not go beyond the first dermal layers.

As I understand pure CBD oil can be used which has no THC in it and is basically non psychoactive.
Of course we in crappy  socialist europe don't have this option :( America is great.

I don't think it has so much solution for the oil to penetrate to the layer layers.. But do you have any idea?
From your point of view it seems possible with rso oil whatever a solution to the problem of peyronie if the oil can be in contact with the nervous bodies.


QuoteCbd oil taken orally is especially good for the healing of this problem when combined with marijuana

I've used cbd creams with magnesium and they helped somewhat too - coconut oil was probably as effective

Haven't tried DMSO and will not be as I am cured

English is not a language I go through translators.
What I understand is that by using cremes and products derived from marijuana by adding coconut oil you have a remission or a healing of your curvature.
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melting

Hard to explain without english.
CDB has a LOW MOLECULAR WEIGHT which means: CDB can penetrate the skin with a CARRIER like DMSO (Search google about it to understand the function)
Daily Transdermals and Traction/VED solved my Peyronies Disease https://www.peyroniesforum.net/index.php/topic,12587.0.html (DMSO+X)

betooz7

Quote from: melting on January 15, 2020, 05:16:02 PM
Hard to explain without english.
CDB has a LOW MOLECULAR WEIGHT which means: CDB can penetrate the skin with a CARRIER like DMSO (Search google about it to understand the function)

I found out what might be interesting is to test, I continue my research.
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Maybe can mix that's with DMSO...
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b_rad

I live in Colorado and have peyronies.

A good friend with a PhD in chemistry manufacturers/extracts CBD using two methods from both hemp and cannabis.

I have tried both regular and full spectrum CBD in a 5000mg strength both in a cream and dropper bottle liquid form. CBD was 3rd party tested from a lab in Denver. My point is I have been using unadulterated CBD in its purest form with only carrier oils added.

CBD was as worthless as the Xiaflex shots for me after 3 months of rubbing on my penis daily.  But I found it is somewhat effective for my back pain when taken orally. My friend is considered an expert on CBD and admits that CBD is very effective treating inflammation, anxiety, fibromyalgia, and a few other things but the industry's frenzy on CBD has turned it into snake oil making too many false claims.

CBD was free to me but I personally think it is a waste of time and money for many. Perhaps the placebo effect. I hope to be proven wrong and wish the best for those experimenting with CBD.

62 years - Urolift 2/18 - Peyronies 4/18 35 degrees - Shock-wave 1/19 worthless - Xiaflex 3/19 - 5/19 now 90 degrees - TURP 10/19 - implant 3/5/20 Dr Eid - Wonderful wife of 25 years

melting

If you just rub CBD oil onto the skin it will be hard for it to penetrate deep into the penis if at all.
At most it will go into the upper dermal layers and transported away by the blood and lymphatic systems.  

If you want a substances/supplement to affect the peyronies tissue directly then you need to get it right to it.
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desmondthethird

it's kinda obvious what you're saying, melting. Unfortunately the majority here won't take your advice or actually look into the actual concept of transdermal delivery themselves.
My DMSO n Aloe mix was shipped from Chicago, Illinois, so it certainly takes time to get here to me in Glasgow. I'm expecting delivery on Thursday/Friday.
I know no one asked, but I just wanted to share a quick little update with the forum.
I also ordered a Magnesium Spray, it will probably get to me by tomorrow, which means I will start that treatment first... then combine them both.
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TonySa

D, we're happy to hear about your trials and results, but no need to put those down who won't try it.  I've done it, but given there isn't but a couple of guys who have reported any success-I'd recommend the treatment approaches that many have had success with—at least at first or in addition to DMSO.
PxD 2 yrs 9/16.  Failed all treatment. 9/11/18: excision, grafting & implant Dr Karpman MtnView Ca, AMS CX 18cm + 3-1cm RTEs.
Pump failed.  2/11/20 Dr Karpman installed Titan 22cm +1cm RTE.

melting

Just do what works and makes sense and avoid what doesn't.  
People need to take responsibility for themselves and do the work necessary to improve..
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