Symptoms in-between peyronies and mondors

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Jopus

Hello everyone, I've been reading throughout this forum for about a month, and I thought I would share my story to see if anyone could help?

To start, I'm 21. Since march of this year i began experiencing penile pain, seemingly out of nowhere. After this pain started, I masturbated, and noticed a drop of blood at my meatus after I was done, which caused urethral sensitivity for a day (whenever my meatus rubbed against my pants it hurt like hell). Other than the actual drop of blood, there was no bending or popping indicative of an injury. For two months after that the pain was only when erect, however it has since affected my flaccid comfort as well.

In the beginning of may, I noticed two small but fairly hard lumps in my flaccid penis, both on the left side, right below the head. The first one is right next to the dorsal vein, and the other is right next to the urethra. When my penis tightens up (HF), these 2 bumps feel like they're one instead, so i am not sure if i just can't feel the middle or if i have two separate bumps.
After having sex in may, my penis stung for a week in this area. I went to a uro who ruled out a UTI and prescribed me a weeks worth of prednisone (steroidal anti-inflammatory). A week later, I developed testicle pain and saw a different urologist. He gave me a testicular ultrasound which concluded I had epididymitis. This cleared up after a dose of antibiotic.

The flaccid pain settled down for about a month, however it returned. It seems to get worse after strenuous exercise or working all day.
I talked to the second uro about my penis pain and his diagnosis was a thrombosed vein (mondors disease).
Anyway, my symptoms get a little complicated, but seem to be in-between peyronies and a thrombosed vein. In july I started seeing an indentation from my urethra extending from the ventral side and ending at the dorsal side, right under, and parallel to the glans.
In addition, this lump on the shaft under my glans sometimes seems blueish in color. I can also see the lump when my penis is flaccid but very tight.
I've started taking many different supplements listed here but no prescription drugs.

Right now my main question to this community is,
Can any of you see your plaque when flaccid? Or is this indicative of another condition?

I'm sorry if my thoughts are so jumbled. Please write back if you have anything to add or ask me. Thanks

- J


NeoV

Sounds exactly like lymphocele if it's blueish and wraps around under the glans.

Try ice and a lot if rest. Strangely, my issues also came after tearing my meatus, I wonder at times if that played a role, by causing chronic infection resulting in lymph swelling. My indentations also are in the ventral part on my urethra.

The indentation's origin in your case should be evaluated by a Peyronies specialist via ultrasound, but sounds like lymphocele. Mondors and lymph problems are easily mistaken for one another and this is noted throughout the literature.

The fact that we don't have an answer is frustrating, keep in mind most urologists know just as much as you if not less. Get that ultrasound and rest up. I'll be getting my ultrasound this Wednesday and will be voicing similar (if not the same) concerns. I'll post about my results soon after.

To answer your last question, yes we can see the so called plaque flaccid in some cases. I could see my lumphocele while flaccid as well.

-V

Jopus

Thanks for the insight NeoV
I've read on the internet that it can take months of leaving the lymphocele alone for it to go away. Did you find that true? How did you get rid of your lymphocele, and how long did it take?
Also I've been reading about your case and I'm very interested in the results of your ultrasound
Thanks,
- J

LWillisjr

Quote from: Jopus on August 31, 2014, 11:16:59 PM
Right now my main question to this community is,
Can any of you see your plaque when flaccid? Or is this indicative of another condition?

- J

NeoV,
I sort of disagree with you on this one. If the plaque is in the CC or on the Tunica, then I don't see how anyone could "see the plaque" as it would be covered by the layer of skin covering the Tunica. Over time several have asked if they could see their plaque or some discoloration and I don't see how it is possible.
Developed peyronies 2007 - 70 degree dorsal curve
Traction/MEDs/Injections/Surgery 2008 16 years Peyronies free now
My History

Jopus

Interesting. I don't know if its a plaque on the tunica or not. All I know is I can see a bulge at the very top of my penis, under the head, which moves around the circumference from left of the dorsal vein to under the urethra. Upon very close examination, this bump appears blueish. From a distance its flesh colored.
I've also been noticing my penis crooking to the left as well, right by this bump at the head, however it is noticeable both while flaccid and erect. Again, its not typical peyronies, but I'm not sure what it could be

- J

NeoV

Thanks Jwillisjr,

I revise my statement to agree that in the majority of cases the plague cannot be seen flaccid! Upon examination you can kind of see some lumpiness on mine but it's basically undetectable.

Jopus,

Let me repeat that in my opinion your problem is 99% likely to be lymphocele. Lymph vessels appear blueish and can get very large under the glans. They also can be seen flaccid from my own experience and from what I've seen on google image. If I check now I still have those enlarged lymph vessels.

You may also have thrombosis of some sort but even if you did, I would not be sure how to treat it.  
Interestingly, pentox was also shown to be effective at treating mondors disease (penile thrombosis) as well as Peyronie's.

In the end it would be wise to see a Peyronie's specialist if you're unsure and uneasy about it. Voice your concerns about lymphocele vs thrombosis vs Peyronie's and guide the ultrasound over these cords to detect blood flow. My advice is to rest your penis as long as possible, though some may disagree with me here.

Remember that traction and VED therapy are very effective against a Peyronie's, but VED therapy may exasperate lymph problems. Both therapies must be done with extreme caution and should be researched.

LWillisjr

Does your penile skin slide over this, or does it move with your skin?
Developed peyronies 2007 - 70 degree dorsal curve
Traction/MEDs/Injections/Surgery 2008 16 years Peyronies free now
My History

Jopus

the skin slides over it, its definitely under the first layer of skin