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Litani

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what causes progression
« on: August 24, 2014, 12:20:28 AM »

What causes progression? I have progressed from 30 to 42 degrees.  I do not feel that the plaque is larger.  It feels smaller.  I can see my calcification after a VED session.  It seems the same.  I cannot feel additional plaques.  This is very puzzling.  Any opinions?
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Re: what causes progression
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2014, 10:32:21 AM »

That seems odd but then again I never saw or felt anything when mine got bad. Even now it's very unobvious. Did you have an ultrasound? How often are you engaging in sexual activity?

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Re: what causes progression
« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2014, 06:02:56 PM »

Litani

Are you doing some other treatment except VED?

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Re: what causes progression
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2014, 10:40:54 AM »

I take pentox and all sorts of supplements.
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Re: what causes progression
« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2014, 11:25:50 AM »

I'll have to check your history before making any useful comments. Mine got worse for nearly two years before getting better. Reducing sexual activity and avoiding porn was a major factor in stopping mine as well as stretching as you may know.

Others may be different.

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Re: what causes progression
« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2014, 11:50:15 AM »

NeoV,

What was your curvature degree at the start? What was it at its worst?
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Re: what causes progression
« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2014, 03:48:33 PM »

I read an interesting side note from Gelbard.

He says that the mean improvement in curvature in the Xiaflex study group was 34%, while in the placebo group it was 18%. A number of people have wondered why there should be improvement in the placebo group at all. Some suggest it is the swiss-cheese effect (the punctures made by the needles).

But Gelbard notes that the placebo group did all of the stretching and modeling protocols prescribed for the Xiaflex group, and suggests that some of the improvement may be from these exercises.

I know that many people on this forum are skeptical (or even alarmed) by the prospect of stretching or massage. (Neo, of course, isn't one of those people. ;)) But apparently the Xiaflex study had no reluctance in prescribing their protocol to both the drug and the placebo group.
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Re: what causes progression
« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2014, 05:54:27 PM »

Litani

Adding low dose Cialis to the Pentox may help in my opinion.

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Re: what causes progression
« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2014, 09:05:44 AM »

Litani sorry I missed your question,

My curve was and is hard to measure since it's more hourglassing and partially congenital (yeah I know, not the answer anybody wants to hear).

I'm sorry I can't tell you anything specific, but the difference from the beginning and now is dramatic by my own standards.
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