Curvature correction based on geometric principles

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TT08

I am seeing a Dr for my Peyronies Disease called Dr. Franklin Kuehhas. I have googled him and apparently a very proficient doctor in the field. He offered me surgery at the start to which I declined as I have had surgery before for congenial curvature (nesbit) and it shortened my penis, so I don't want to go through that again. On further inspection of Dr Kuehhas' surgery method there is something called curvature correction based on geometric principles. From what I understand it is recently developed with the idea of being able to correct curvature while maintaining or restoring penile length. I am not sure of its effect on ED or much more for that matter.

Has anyone heard of this procedure or know about its efficacy?  

james1947

TT08

If you will make a search on the forum regarding Dr. Kuehhas you may find answers to your questions.
A few forum members were very please with him.

James
Age 71, Peyronies from Jan 2009 following penis fracture during sex. Severe ED.
Lost 2" length and a lot of girth. Late start, still VED, Cialis & Pentox helped. Prostate surgery 2014.
Got amazing support on the forum

yyy

Hi man

Just had my surgery with him, STAGE TECHNIQUE based on geometrical principles. Cannot say anything about the final result, but he is very skilled and humane as well, and his method is the best available, trust me on that you are doing the right choice  :)

TT08

Hi yyy,

This is good to hear, he did seem very knowledgable and competent when I met him, unlike most of the urologists I have seen. When was your surgery? It would be good to hear about your post-surgical progress. I'm considering this as I'm getting sick of pills.

yyy

My operation Was 3 days ago. So you already met him, didn't you? What kind of surgery Did he offer you? Is he sure you have peyronie a
And not just big issues due to nesbit (like My case)??
Will update for sure about My progress, atm Im feeling good

james1947

yyy

Wish you excellent outcome.
Keep us updated, you know not too many good Peyronies experts/surgeons in Europe

James
Age 71, Peyronies from Jan 2009 following penis fracture during sex. Severe ED.
Lost 2" length and a lot of girth. Late start, still VED, Cialis & Pentox helped. Prostate surgery 2014.
Got amazing support on the forum

TT08

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I did meet him and he just asked if I would be interested in surgery. I declined as, like you, I have had the nesbit before. Thanks for informing me about the nesbit complications, I will ask him if that could be the case with me. I hope you don't mind if I ask what kind of complications you had? I have a dent in the opposite side to where my nesbit stitches are.

I am delighted for you and a good outcome will give us all hope so good luck.

yyy

my complication after the nesbit:

Lost of 3cm
Fibrotic lump
New bend 45° upwards (it was 70° downwards)
diffuse traces of fibrosis in the corpora cavernosa
Chronical swelling and inflammation due to non absorbable sutures
slight ED as a consequence

....Nothing more  :D


There are a lot of people with at least some of these complications. it's time to inform ourselves and to avoid this kind of surgery.



TT08

I agree, nesbit has some bad side effects. I've started getting swelling and slight pains where my sutures are. I'll be in contact with Dr. Kuehhas hopefully soon so I'll see what he says.

Freemason

Why is this procedure not used by Levine and others here?? I realize this isn't excising plaque and maybe that's why. Wonder if this procedure is just for non plaque curvature and not peyronnies? It says congenital curvature so not Peyronies Disease?

Frank55

Thanks YYY. This is not the first time I've heard of issues with Nesbit.

Freemason, I don't know if any US based Doctors use the Stage/Egydio techniques, but it does appear that they believe it corrects Peyronies curvature:

ACPCT Center - Treatment of Curved and Bent Penis!conditions/c1pna
Single and 58 yrs. old - first peyronies symptoms Fall 2015
Had grafting surgery by Franklin Kuehhas in June 2016 - complete failure
Borderline ED possible but not taking drugs, shots or using VED
Now evaluating options for next step

yyy

I did a stage technique but the curvature came back, and I'm not the only one.

My opinion is that there are better methods for peyronies (16-dot plication of graft if you can do it)

itsme

What do u mean about stage/egydio technique? Did u do his technique and the curvature came back? Did u have lenght loss?

yyy

Stage by kuehhas. No length loss as the curvature came back conpletely  

itsme

Im telling u guys. Egydio has been saying that. Graft can lose elasticity over time depending on the material. I believe Egydio talk through skype too. Ive read that. Try to get an online appointment with him... I never read any testimonials or heard Egydio saying anything about stretching after surgery. He even prescribed me stretching just with hands 30 minutes/day.

Jonbinspain

With stage technique there is no graft,  Only micro incisions in the long side of the curvature.

Kuehhas told me to stretch manually to start with and then to use a traction device. The Phallosan is recommended as it can be worn for longer periods.

On that note, as I posted elsewhere, I don't find the Phallosan anywhere near as comfortable as claimed, but at least it doesn't restrict blood flow as the basic loop or noose systems do.  

yyy

Phallosan creates problems like blistering on the head, and it did constrict blood flow even if they say it doesn't.

You should buy a normal extender (the base, rods etc) but you have to add a part called Captn's wench:
https://penis-enlargement-manual.thundersplace.org/captns-wench.html (NOT A COMMERCIAL LINK)

Ive just ordered it from a US member, paying it 40 dollars.

WIth captn's wench the head is free and not constricted, and you can check your it everytime you want to understand when you need a break.

Jonbinspain

It looks an interesting concept, I must say.

Re the Phallosan, I would disagree that it restricts blood flow in any significant way. It's certainly far superior to the 'normal' devices in that aspect. Whilst I'd agree that it's nowhere near as comfortable as claimed, I've not had, nor have I heard of any problems with blistering, etc.  

yyy


J-A

Ive been using the Phallosan for 4 months, ive never had a blister in that time. I ve tried various devices and this one is the best by far
Happy to chat to anyone who would like more details of my journey so far, on here or on the phone

redbullmaster

I've used the phallosan, but instead of wearing it with the belt, which doesn't give much stretch to the penis.
I've combined it with a Penis Extender, which I believe gives a more even and stronger stretch.
I did get blistering on the head of my penis, when I had the device on for more than three hours.
But now I use talcum power on the head of the penis and I haven't had any more since.

I would add when you first use it, build up your time in the device.
Take a break every hour or so and check your penis, as I believe it needs to get use to it.
Don't wear it for 8 hours, put it on for up to two, then take it off go to the bathroom and massage for penis for blood flow.
As when I take mine off, the head is white and very hard. ( but not as in an erection)