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Re: PRP & HYALURONIC ACID
« Reply #150 on: May 11, 2020, 09:10:16 AM »

Is there a way to get this if you don't live in france?
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27 yr/o
Symptoms presented August 20, 2019
Slight bend to the left and down
downward hinging
distal hourglassing
loss of sensation

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Re: PRP & HYALURONIC ACID
« Reply #151 on: May 12, 2020, 09:14:07 AM »

Has anyone actually seen any permanent improvement with this?
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33 yrs old
Peyronies for 4 years now
Got better but then got worse
Mild erect curvature but major Loss of girth, dents and significant semi-erect curve
Moderate Erectile Dysfunction
Re-started VED, also using Restorex

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Re: PRP & HYALURONIC ACID
« Reply #152 on: May 12, 2020, 10:55:53 AM »

Gabriel had improvements and the way he describes it makes sense.   

But it seems to only have solved a part of it. He describes a de-calcification and I personally experienced the same with my diy mixes(signature). The de-calcification gets rid of the harder parts of the plaque but most of the basic plaque remains(which I only got rid of after daily application of transdermals for many months, daily several times, combined with traction+ved).

When the plaque gets "softer" and rid of the harder part there can be an improvement as it's more flexible.

Also interesting, Gabriel, that you still had hourglass and I posited based on anatomy, in another thread, that hourglass is due to deeper plaques and bends due to higher(towards skin) plaques. I understand your doc targeted deeper plaques only later on.

What's again clear is that Peyronies Disease in most cases has to be target from several "angles". 

PRP if it helps with healing can probably help a lot in the early stages? The problem with Peyronies Disease is that it is bad spot for the body to heal an injury, bad circulation, constant stretching(erection) of the injured area. So the body "patches" the plaque up in a crude way. PRP especially if it stays longer active due to the HYALURONIC ACID, then could possibly help a lot with the initial inflammation.
But to me it sounds like it wont be able to "dissolve" the plaque completely. That's where other treatment need to be combined, imo, like xiaflex, or my "ghetto" diy dmso+x. (and possibly traction and VED).   

I feel like I often read how people just use 1 treatment or one chemical or supplement. Just theorizing but PRP & HYALURONIC ACID followed by Xiaflex(all while keeping secondary inflammation due to injection down!) along with careful traction&VED at some point makes sense(to me).
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Daily Transdermals and Traction/VED solved my Peyronies Disease https://www.peyroniesforum.net/index.php/topic,12587.0.html (DMSO+X)

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Re: PRP & HYALURONIC ACID
« Reply #153 on: May 13, 2020, 06:26:06 AM »

How would one go about getting this type of treatment, where is it even available ?
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Peyronies for 4 years now
Got better but then got worse
Mild erect curvature but major Loss of girth, dents and significant semi-erect curve
Moderate Erectile Dysfunction
Re-started VED, also using Restorex

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Re: PRP & HYALURONIC ACID
« Reply #154 on: December 16, 2020, 10:39:13 PM »

Where is Dr Virag located? I'm runing out of options to get better, I will go to him
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My first symptoms started early in 2019
I tried Traction device, Pentofixiline, Q10, TRT, L-Argenine, cialis
I have narrowing/dent/hinge on the left side of my shaft
My Erectile Dysfunction is getting worse
Had a PRP shot Aug 2021
I have a girlfriend
Age 46

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Re: PRP & HYALURONIC ACID
« Reply #155 on: December 16, 2020, 10:43:25 PM »

I will like to know where Dr Virag is located, I will love to visit him
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My first symptoms started early in 2019
I tried Traction device, Pentofixiline, Q10, TRT, L-Argenine, cialis
I have narrowing/dent/hinge on the left side of my shaft
My Erectile Dysfunction is getting worse
Had a PRP shot Aug 2021
I have a girlfriend
Age 46

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Re: PRP & HYALURONIC ACID
« Reply #156 on: December 17, 2020, 01:55:04 AM »

For the record,

These injections are everywhere in Japan, at many different clinics, combined with PRP. You can’t use insurance but the costs are pretty reasonable.

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Re: PRP & HYALURONIC ACID
« Reply #157 on: December 17, 2020, 02:55:47 PM »

I will like to see Dr Virag, but I have couple questions:
How much is per visit?
I speak English and Spanish but not French, is not a problem right?.
I really need to try those injections
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My first symptoms started early in 2019
I tried Traction device, Pentofixiline, Q10, TRT, L-Argenine, cialis
I have narrowing/dent/hinge on the left side of my shaft
My Erectile Dysfunction is getting worse
Had a PRP shot Aug 2021
I have a girlfriend
Age 46

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Re: PRP & HYALURONIC ACID
« Reply #158 on: March 12, 2021, 08:08:51 AM »

Hey everyone, what did you think of R. Virag and his practices? I think he doesn't do surgery anymore but he was recommended to me for my congenital curvature, surely one of his colleagues must perform the surgery.
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2020: Nesbit surgery for a 55 degrees downward curvature with DrFaix
Result: Residual curvature of 30 degrees and an inflammatory scar

2021: I am considering a new surgery

I lost 2 cm during my Nesbit, I have regained 2 cm with traction

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Re: PRP & HYALURONIC ACID
« Reply #159 on: March 21, 2021, 06:45:52 AM »

Hey guys,

Just a little message here, passing by quickly. Please read the entire thread for all the infos.

Virag is in Paris, and will offer you 5 to 6 sessions of injections, which will cost you 500€ each, without any reinbursment.

3 years after my 5 sessions, and after having tried nearly 100 types of treatments (click my nickname and see my big post about "what has helped, what has not"), I would definitely not recommend Virag's treatment. It's mad expensive, backed with well-marketed but actually poor science, very traumatic, and in most cases (including mine) shows very little to no benefit in the long-term. For me, now that time has passed and I can put things in perspective, I'm not even sure that the small improvements I saw (eg small reduction in curvature) were linked to this injections. And in any case, it did NOT stop neither the pain, nor the diformity progression 3 years later.

So, stay strong and keep searching the forum: there are plenty of other safer and probably more efficient options for you to try here buddies.

Cheers,

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- 35 yo, Peyronies Disease with chronic pain, general hourglassing with girth and length loss since 09/01/17.
- Pain almost cured with Hirudoid cream and diet/lifestyle changes (see my topics on this); deformity still here, but partly reduced with traction + VED.
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