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incautious

james, congrats on you progress with ed. 3 weeks is when I saw real progress, and it appears that that's the case with you. My ED is completely gone right now. I'm finding that I'm getting erections during the day just like when I was a kid.  

james1947

This topic become a confrontational issue and not a debate regarding Priapus/PRP.
The position of all the members participating in this debate is clear already for everybody.
The topic was originally opened by incautious to report about his experience with Priapus shots.
incautious intention was to let us know that he is experimenting with something new and what are the results of his experiment.
He didn't mean to promote Priapus shots.
So please, let this topic go back to the initial target, to update the forum by members that decided to try Priapus/PRP.
This debate is hijacking the topic!!! I will split the topic and move all the debate posts to the new topic:
"Debate on Pripapus/PRP efficiency for Peyronies"

James
Age 71, Peyronies from Jan 2009 following penis fracture during sex. Severe ED.
Lost 2" length and a lot of girth. Late start, still VED, Cialis & Pentox helped. Prostate surgery 2014.
Got amazing support on the forum

james1947

To all forum members.
This topic is for results updates from forum members that are doing Priapus/PRP injections, remarks and questions regarding the results
This topic is not a debate topic. Any debate post regarding Priapus/PRP injections should be posted on:
Debate on Pripapus/PRP efficiency for Peyronies - Peyronies Society Forums
Any debate post on this topic will be deleted.

James
Age 71, Peyronies from Jan 2009 following penis fracture during sex. Severe ED.
Lost 2" length and a lot of girth. Late start, still VED, Cialis & Pentox helped. Prostate surgery 2014.
Got amazing support on the forum

james1947

Small update, again.
Yesterday I had again an erection with no ED drugs and it was very good for sex. :)
I don't remember when it was last time that it happened to have two erections and intercourse in two consecutive days with no ED drugs.
I am attributing that to the PRP, as nothing else changed in my treatment.

James
Age 71, Peyronies from Jan 2009 following penis fracture during sex. Severe ED.
Lost 2" length and a lot of girth. Late start, still VED, Cialis & Pentox helped. Prostate surgery 2014.
Got amazing support on the forum

dioporcolorisolvo

This Monday i will take off for USA where i will do the priapus shot Wednesday. It's a long and expensive travel, but i have to attempt all possibilities.
Let's hope...

james1947

dioporcolorisolvo

Wish you all the best and very good results :)
Talk with the shots provider regarding the quantity (10 ml) and the injections location.
Let us know how was

James
Age 71, Peyronies from Jan 2009 following penis fracture during sex. Severe ED.
Lost 2" length and a lot of girth. Late start, still VED, Cialis & Pentox helped. Prostate surgery 2014.
Got amazing support on the forum

dioporcolorisolvo

Quote from: james1947 on April 24, 2014, 09:57:46 PM

James

I will go to Dr.Varano, where incautious has gone.
Thanks....

james1947

You are in good hands dioporcolorisolvo  :)

James
Age 71, Peyronies from Jan 2009 following penis fracture during sex. Severe ED.
Lost 2" length and a lot of girth. Late start, still VED, Cialis & Pentox helped. Prostate surgery 2014.
Got amazing support on the forum

edzo67

Great news James! Im glad you are having a positive reaction to your PRP injections.

Milione

Dioporcolorisolvo in bocca al lupo :)


jmsurfer

Glad to hear you're getting good results James!

Chef Chris

Hi i got the PRP shot today from a doctor here in Sweden but she only agreed up on giving me 5cc PRP
and she focused on the plaque she treated fibrous whit PRP before in the stomach of a women who had a lot of fibrous after a operation going bad i saw before and after pictures and it was a big differens all of the area was cleared up so i trusted here judgment but she said i would need two treatments i am scheduled to do a second treatment in a month.
but if i don't see any progress before that i will insist of 10cc and that the procedure will be done after doctor Runnels protocol i did use the pump for 15 minutes after.
i paid 750 dollars (5000 sek) 10cc PRP will cost 900 dollars.
if or when i see any progress i will post before and after pictures i am keeping my fingers crossed.

Chris
Chris

IhatePD

Good luck, I am hoping for the best for you.

james1947

Chris

Welcome to the "PRP research group". :)
Wish you very good outcome, but I really believe the injected quantity should be 10 ml PRP.
I will get my next injections hope next week, will be 10 ml and I will use VED after 15 minutes also.

James
Age 71, Peyronies from Jan 2009 following penis fracture during sex. Severe ED.
Lost 2" length and a lot of girth. Late start, still VED, Cialis & Pentox helped. Prostate surgery 2014.
Got amazing support on the forum

dioporcolorisolvo

I've done priapus shot today. First impressions have been good.
Compared to verapamil infiltrations i have felt no pain. I have done two sets of 10 minutes
Once of Ved this evening after 6 hours the shot.
I will write you next week to say if have noticed some improvments.
Let s hope...

james1947

Wish you good results dioporcolorisolvo

James
Age 71, Peyronies from Jan 2009 following penis fracture during sex. Severe ED.
Lost 2" length and a lot of girth. Late start, still VED, Cialis & Pentox helped. Prostate surgery 2014.
Got amazing support on the forum

dioporcolorisolvo

I didn't understood only one thing regarding VED.
Must i pump and hold the penis inflated for 10 consecutive minutes or hold for 10 seconds and release for a total of a session of 10 minutes as is written in the VED protocol of the forum?
How do you use exactly the VED?

james1947

I am using the VED as per the forum protocol.
Quotehold for 10 seconds and release for a total of a session of 10 minutes
Even if Dr. Varano will say something else, I will not take any risk. Is my penis.

James
Age 71, Peyronies from Jan 2009 following penis fracture during sex. Severe ED.
Lost 2" length and a lot of girth. Late start, still VED, Cialis & Pentox helped. Prostate surgery 2014.
Got amazing support on the forum

dioporcolorisolvo

I don t know what Dr.Varano says regarding this particular aspect, i will ask him what is the best way to use VED in his opinion.  

Chef Chris

Hi i have a question for MIKEHAWK sins you seams to be the one ho had the best results whit this treatment.
When you got the PRP shot did you get them after doctor Runnels protocol or did you get them in the plaque?
Chris

incautious

diopo, use the VED for at least 10 minutes each time. Should pump to 10 in Hg if you have a gauge.
Chef, Dr Varanno tries to custom taylor the shot( but based of Runnels protocol) near and around the plaque. If the plaque is real hard the Dr will not be able to inject the PRP as you can get push back in the syringe. Keep in mind that they have to avoid the veins.  

james1947

And avoid the urethrae!!!

James  
Age 71, Peyronies from Jan 2009 following penis fracture during sex. Severe ED.
Lost 2" length and a lot of girth. Late start, still VED, Cialis & Pentox helped. Prostate surgery 2014.
Got amazing support on the forum

Chef Chris

Ok thank you guys  
Chris

Old Man

Hey guys:

Just want to jump in here off topic. But, need to let everyone know that a new and revised VED protocol for the one cylinder VED is now published in the VED board section of the home page index. A number of things has been changed to enhance the procedures. Many guys felt that the old protocol was confusing so items have been changed and updated.

It is the very top posting there now and states it is for the Vitality OTC one cylinder. However, this protocol will work with any brand of one cylinder VED.

Old Man

Update edit:  There are some minor changes being made as of 5/5//14.
Age 92. Peyronies Disease at age 24, Peyronies Disease after
stage four radical prostatectomy in 1995, Heart surgery 2004 with three bypasses/three stents.
Three more stents in 2016. Hiatal hernia surgery 2017 with 1/3 stomach reduction. Many other surgeries too.

james1947

My next shots at May 7, this time 10 ml PRP

James
Age 71, Peyronies from Jan 2009 following penis fracture during sex. Severe ED.
Lost 2" length and a lot of girth. Late start, still VED, Cialis & Pentox helped. Prostate surgery 2014.
Got amazing support on the forum

IhatePD


Has anyone that had the PRP shot done traction afterwards in addition to or in place of the VED therapy?

Chef Chris

I am doing traction 3 hours a day and VED 2x15 minutes a day I am yet to see any benefits but not even a week has past since I got the shots  
Chris

james1947

Chris

You was advised by the doctor to use traction or is your own decision?

James  
Age 71, Peyronies from Jan 2009 following penis fracture during sex. Severe ED.
Lost 2" length and a lot of girth. Late start, still VED, Cialis & Pentox helped. Prostate surgery 2014.
Got amazing support on the forum

edzo67

have all of you guys who have had the prp shots seen increase in girth and/or length? any worth noting?
I know for some , erections have been much better. any of you with hour glassing seen improvement?
I havendt exactly seen you guys lighting up the board with any breaking updates.
I know this isn't billed to be a permanent fix, but does it seem worth it for minor short term changes?
I would trade a few good weeks of ANY improvement. no matter how slight. have you guys taken any before and after measurements?
a couple of u have posted some photos that show some improvement in bend, but its hard to tell if theres been any increase in girth or length. James I know u have said your erections were much improved. are there any size gains to report? Thanks and sorry if I missed any answers to these questions that are already in the posts, that I may have overlooked.

james1947

I can't mention any drastic improvements, 4 weeks after the PRP.
My flaccid girth and length are a little bit increased and I had two erection without Viagra.
I am attributing that to being older (66+) and I got just 4.5 ml PRP.
Tomorrow I will get 10 ml, will make VED for 10 minutes and will see the results during a period of 4 - 6 weeks.
Hope to much more that from the first PRP session.

James
Age 71, Peyronies from Jan 2009 following penis fracture during sex. Severe ED.
Lost 2" length and a lot of girth. Late start, still VED, Cialis & Pentox helped. Prostate surgery 2014.
Got amazing support on the forum

edzo67

good luck tomorrow James

incautious

edzo, my personal experience has been much much better erections, a reduction in curvature from about 40 degrees to about 20 degrees. I've regained 1/2" in lengthen and gained 1/2" in circumference. I still have some hour glassing where the curvature starts. I will try and get 12 week photos up when I get a chance. i saw reduction in curvature with a few days of the shot but real improvement started after 4 weeks, and way better erections after 6 weeks.
Peyronies Disease, I still use traction in addition to VED. However I use the ESL-40 ADS as opposed to my old traction device, because of girth issues.

IhatePD

James, I wish you the best tomorrow!

james1947

Thanks for all the wishes, here is "tomorrow" already :)
Have to drive 3:30 hours to the doctor so wake-up already

James
Age 71, Peyronies from Jan 2009 following penis fracture during sex. Severe ED.
Lost 2" length and a lot of girth. Late start, still VED, Cialis & Pentox helped. Prostate surgery 2014.
Got amazing support on the forum

Chef Chris

Chris

dioporcolorisolvo

Good luck James...

After 1 week from the shot... Things are going well...maybe there is hope for me!
Girth has improved of 0,5-0,7 centimeter...yes not a drastic improvment but if you consider that ALL the other treatments have worsened or done nothing for my case...for now things are going well and i have the most important thing: the hope.
Also the curvature is a little less hard and the erections are more easy.
I hope to gain some other millimiter in girth. No change in lenght but i have lost girth with peyronies, not lenght.
The war goes on, but now i have a strong friend with me that is the trust.

danbon

Once again I just want to say how excited about your diligence, progress, and overall with the treatment. Please keep us updated with any information. Even though the injections do not cost that much. In my case, where I live I only have one doctor near by and he's charging $2000.00 even though for many of you it may not be a lot for me it actually is and that's why I cannot afford it at the moment, but hopefully by next month I can, or maybe I can even work out a deal to finance we'll see...Thanks again for your determination and I am eager to hear your results.

james1947

Back home after 9 ml PRP shots. Drive 3:30 to the doctor, drive 3:30 back home.
Not the doctor and not me could feel the plaques today, but she injected in the place that the plaques supposed to be.
I attribute the "not feeling the plaques" to the first injections one month ago. I think is a big achievement:
* First softening the plaques by VED, Pentox and low dose Cialis
* Not feeling the plaques one month after the 4.5 ml PRP shots.
A little bit swollen, made VED just 3 minutes because blood or maybe PRP started to come out from one of the injected spots.
Added: No any bruising as the doctor was careful not to hit some veins.
Hope to see bigger improvements this time.

James  
Age 71, Peyronies from Jan 2009 following penis fracture during sex. Severe ED.
Lost 2" length and a lot of girth. Late start, still VED, Cialis & Pentox helped. Prostate surgery 2014.
Got amazing support on the forum

james1947

danbon

No any reason for the doctor to charge $2,000. Is a ripoff, as others in the US are charging $1,400 and even much less.
Try to find a solution. Even if it was easy for me to pay $2,000 I was not paying!!!

James
Age 71, Peyronies from Jan 2009 following penis fracture during sex. Severe ED.
Lost 2" length and a lot of girth. Late start, still VED, Cialis & Pentox helped. Prostate surgery 2014.
Got amazing support on the forum

nemo

James, if you're not able to find a plaque manually anymore, that is truly wonderful news!

Nemo
51 yrs. old, multiple auto-immune conditions. First episode of Peyronies Disease in 2002. Recurred a couple times since. Over the years I have tried Topical Verapamil, Iontophoresis, all the supps and Cialis + Pentoxifylline. Still functional, always worried.

incautious

wow James some great news there. As you know I too have been saying that I cannot find the plaque anymore. My next appt. with the uro is 6/12 so I will have definite answers weather the plaque is fully gone.
dio: it takes about 3-4 weeks to see really significant results. Keep pumping every day twice a day for at least 10 min at a time. I still pump about 1/2 hr twice a day. I will try and get 3 month pics up soon.
danbon, check runnels website for a list of Dr's. near you. As more and more sign up the price will come down. I do know that each Dr. pays a fee to Runnels for each shot, which keeps the price a bit high at this time. If Runnels can prove that this treatment is effective for ED( which he is in the process of doing, and I was a part of this data) then insurance may cover this in a few years. After one shot is way cheaper that a lifetime of Cialis.

incautious

janes, one question, did you get a shot in the glans this time. I know that the first time you did not. And with 9'cc, you should see an improvement in girth.

IhatePD

Guys, I am very happy and hopeful for each of you. I have taken a blood test for the PRP shot with Dr. Varano and will make a decision soon.

I am leaning towards trying the PRP shot. I am still a little nervous about Xiaflex although I think it might be a good way to treat Peyronies Disease. A lot to think about.

james1947

incautious

I didn't get directly in the glans as the glans size is OK, but very near because my plaque ending there.
I hope also that the 9 ml will help more than the 4.5 ml.
This time I will wait 7 or 8 week before making an other one if this will not help significantly.

James
Age 71, Peyronies from Jan 2009 following penis fracture during sex. Severe ED.
Lost 2" length and a lot of girth. Late start, still VED, Cialis & Pentox helped. Prostate surgery 2014.
Got amazing support on the forum

james1947

IhatePD

I agree not an easy decision.
Xiaflex an approved Peyronies treatment but somehow scary.
PRP not approved but more simple.
But I think, from reading the results some people are getting from Xiaflex that is a real treatment.
I was very skeptical after the trial, I am not anymore.

James
Age 71, Peyronies from Jan 2009 following penis fracture during sex. Severe ED.
Lost 2" length and a lot of girth. Late start, still VED, Cialis & Pentox helped. Prostate surgery 2014.
Got amazing support on the forum

IhatePD

James,

I agree, I am not that skeptical of the Xiaflex any longer, just nervous. Reading the instructions post procedure, you are supposed to gently stretch your penis opposite the curve if you get a spontaneous erection. They also say to wait two weeks before having sex.

Having sex will put a lot more than a gentle stretch (and stress) on an erection. I am worried about causing more damage or a rupture as I "think" my penis might be weakend by the Xiaflex injections. I don't know if the underlying tissue is a strong as it used to be?

james1947

IhatePD

You are right, sex after Xiaflex maybe an issue.
What the doctor said?

James
Age 71, Peyronies from Jan 2009 following penis fracture during sex. Severe ED.
Lost 2" length and a lot of girth. Late start, still VED, Cialis & Pentox helped. Prostate surgery 2014.
Got amazing support on the forum

incautious

12 week pics are up on the surgery child boards.  

Chef Chris

James gratulations on your progress that you can't feel the plaque any more that's a big deal. Have there bean any redaction in curve?
I haven't experienced any difference so far but then again only a week has past since I got the 4,5 ml shot.  
Chris

rellisacct

I have a question guys. With the Priapus shot, do they inject all over the penis or just in one localized spot?
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